A new era is ushered in with the new Crosman Vapor Max. Crosman, Daisy and Gamo coming together and introducing a highly anticipated and restructured version of the 880 series.
An upgraded all steel pump arm mechanism to give you up to 14 foot pounds of energy in .177. Two Gamo style mags at 10 shots each means you’re not single loading or praying the pellet doesn’t turn backwards lol. Finger molded pump arm and very comfortable even for adults.
Airgun Revisions also has extra mags available for the Vapor Max.
https://www.airgunrevisions.com/product/crosman-vapor-max/

Brand new member here. When I was a kid, I made an 12' long pneumatic potato gun. It had a 10' power section of 4" CPVC (wrapped with old blue jeans, bc I couldn't access pressure rated), with a one way piston check valve made from scratch with PVC drains, rubber diaphragm, and spring. This valve would seel the barrel from the pressure chambers. Once the rear pressure chamber was dumped, the piston would slide back and expose the barrel entry to the main power chamber.

If this isn't how the nice guns work, then I'm going to make my own with this style, because it was capable of making dehydrated potato flakes at above 120psi.

Great shooter comes as pictured, brand new westhunter scope 6-24×50 and UTG recon 360 bipod alomg with the upgraded bottle protector, not plastic. Excellent shooter, no issues, I just wanted to try it and am Sticking with my M3.

I am new to this but I’m interested in competing in PRS / NRL events with one of these in and replacing my 22lr for the time being.

I understand the DRS has a full chassis but as far as performance, is there an advantage of one of these rifles over the other?

This post is more of an FYI for the newer or who hasn't learned it.

Of recent, i have learned how to click (or use the turrets for something other than zeroing my scopes)

At home I have to shoot with moderators.

Of note - the average moderator hung off the end of a barrel (not a shroud) requires 4-5 more upward clicks than without any moderator. This observation included stout barrels like my HMX1000 and my Steyr 110 and my TM1000 pistols.

This is a big deal if you are shooting HFT or hunter field target with a pistol or any situation or law that requires you to remove a moderator.

Moderators attached via the shroud don't seem to cause any deviation or drop in POI as no weight is actually placed on the barrel.

When i attached a fairly lightweight weihrauch moderator directly to my Thomas barrel i had to add 4 upward clicks to my zero at 30 yards. But when i added a heavier Zero DB moderator to my Thomas using the shroud, i had to go back down 4 clicks at 30 yards.

This Also affected my short little TM1000 pistol barrels same # of clicks or changes in elevation were noted for the Weihrauch.

HAWKE Airmax 30 SF Compact 3-12x40mm AMX IR Purchased new never used

$375 shipped

Im finding my pistols easier to use than rifles since my stroke (but not in NRA Bullseye form!). My long neglected '83 Daisy 717, '81 Crosman 1377 and 1322, RWS 5G and Gamo AF-10 got some love recently (maintenance and tune up) and also got me to looking at what's out there (been out of the loop a long time). Im in a compromised financial position so 'inexpensive' is important.
To that end, the last few weeks I kept finding references to the P17 and researched it a good bit, sounded promising so only a few days ago I ordered online (eBay) and it came today (CA to WI in only a few days!).
Thus far Im liking it, the fit in hand and balance and overall weight is quite nice.
As the reviews all said the closing of the upper slide/barrel (which is the cocking lever for this SSP) takes some strength and is Pinch Prone (YES, use an Open Hand to close!)
Also the loading port at the breech is a bit confined but I adapted quickly. Unlike many reviews I have only a little trouble getting pellets to start into the breech, perhaps they 'coned' that a smidge.
The trigger isn't snicky, it has some 'take up' (which some seem to call a 1st stage) then a fairly long but smooth pull to a nice break.
This is suppose to be a China clone of the HW40, which Im sure is better built (and far more expensive), and this design seems to be an easy O-ring reseal job when needed (and with hardware store O-rings too).
So far Im liking it. Bang for my $50+ seems pretty good, I should get that much entertainment out of it fairly quickly.

Hey guys, I hope you are all fine,

Does anyone know how to disassemble Diana 34 barrel's detent ball?

Full barrel kit for the FX Crown. Barrel, shroud, new probe. 177 caliber x 600mm.


$210 delivered
PayPal F&F preferred.

Clam shell not included but available.

what size picatinny rail does it use?

I received a new Skout hybrid barrel and it appeared to have an indexing mark between 2 and 3:

So I wanted to verify, and shot this pattern from 21 yards during a break in the rain:

The upper and lower groups are pre and post zeroing groups. The index numbers according to barrel rotation are:


I started and ended at #9 which includes a couple zero shots.
So, it was an index mark!

My understanding is that you want to set the barrel to the top or bottom center or you will shoot at an angle - resulting in an off center hit before and after the
zero point. Which begs the question: If my rifle barrel can't be indexed, how do I know it won't shoot at a slight angle? (Like it was "clocked" at 3pm or 9pm)

That would show up on a Field Target rifle as having to hold left or right by varying amounts based on distance to target, right?
Or is the effect so small that it doesn't matter? (or we right it off as wind effects?) I have made dope cards that have a L and R hold at different distances....

Do I understand this correctly? Or have I bought into some snake oil?
Have you indexed a barrel and seen a change in accuracy?
Does a gunsmith have a way to test and index a "fixed rotation" barrel?

Going to part with my 1 year old AGT Vulcan 3 truck gun nice and small but very powerful. Shoots AEA 50gr pellet and Jsb Knockouts at 950fps very accurate. Scope, Rings and Moderator not included. Will come with 2 mags fill probe soft case. Gun is in new condition just a little more power then i need. 1250 shipped Buyer pays fees or do PayPal F/F. Trades have to be 34in or shorter don't like long guns. Check out more info on it at Talon Tunes that's where I bought it.

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Havent shot my Dynamic in a month or so. Went out to the squirrelin' fields yesterday during lunch to see who was skipping their mid day siesta. Forgot to hit record on the first two @ 80y and 120y. Remembered on this 106y shot of a sleepy squirrel who only presented neck and head. that was all the dynamic needed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Pantera/Dynamic platform for long range hunting is pretty hard to beat. IMO is a gun that much more consistent than my Impacts ever were and needed very little to shoot slugs with high velo very consistently. I swapped out the reg for a Huma, but left hammer spring and hammer weights alone. that said I do have the rifle pretty closed to maxed, which seems totally fine.

Only feedback is that it ALWAYS takes 2-3 warmup shots to get the velo up to running speeds...otherwise POI hasnt changed since I got the thing zero'd and I can always rely on it to hit my target out to 150y +. one day I need to go shoot it at 200+ just to see how I can group.

Love this rifle.

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I love the zelos, its crazy accurate but its just too powerful for where i currently live and its pretty loud even with a somewhat decent moderator. Is there a tune where i could get it down to about 20fpe? i don't know if i need a different hammer spring and also what regulator pressure would be best.

Still looking for some of these pellets, my Nova Liberty .177 cal loves these.

Shooting 952fps with these 14.97gr. At 28yds.

I just ordered one for my DRS 22 700 no longer a classic.



I have already added the slug power kit.

I posted a little too quick. This one I took more time to add details.
2025 N50 National Championship Report

NRA Whittington Center, Raton, NM
The 2025 N50 National Championship, held at the NRA Whittington Center in Raton, New Mexico, brought together real 50-yard air rifle and .22LR benchrest competitors. Scores from six cards per class (up to 18 cards) were summed, stacked, and sorted under consistent conditions. To ensure fairness, benches were rotated multiple times, eliminating concerns about unequal bench assignments.

Competitors and Community
Top shooters from states including Florida, Louisiana, Utah, California, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Ohio, Colorado, Arkansas, and Washington competed, showcasing skill and sportsmanship. The event fostered camaraderie, with old friends reconnecting and new ones forming. A few highlights:

• MikeD and Jerry and Linda M, returned travelling the southern route to attend.
• MarkH and HarveyW, who completed a one-day "cannonball run" from the Pacific Northwest.
• Brad S., Jayson B., and Mike R. from Utah, excelled with new rifles.
• MarkC from the Meeker, OH club, did really well.

Event Details
Favorable weather with consistent light winds provided ideal shooting conditions. We award top 3 best in class for each day and best for sum of all shooters.
The competition featured five awarded classes:

1. Pro/Slug: Unlimited RF and Air Rifle builds, scored with a 0.224” plug. Cash awards given for Saturday 3 card event and Sunday 3 card event results.
2. Sportsman/Slug: Factory style target rifles, open to all air rifles, scored with a 0.350” plug. Cash awards given for Saturday 3 card event and Sunday 3 card event results.
3. Pellet: Any air rifle, summed in the "Pellet Combined" class for comparison with rimfire competitors, scored with a 0.350” plug. Cash awards given for Saturday 3 card event and Sunday 3 card event results
4. Pellet Combined: Special awarded class of Pellet rifle used in all 3 classes for 18 cards (450 bulls). Aggregated both days Pellet scores for a comprehensive ranking using the 0.350” plug. A Medal and custom AR250 rest were awarded to 1st place. Medals and cash were awarded to 2nd & 3rd place.
5. All Combined: Aggregated scores for a comprehensive 18 card (450 bulls) ranking. Air rifle shooters were encouraged to compete in the more challenging Pro and Sportsman classes, enabling direct comparisons with rimfire rifles. A Medal and custom AR250 rest were awarded to 1st place. Medals and cash were awarded to 2nd & 3rd place.

Scoring and Organization
I feel the event ran well, with:

• Mike N. serving as Range Master, ensuring smooth operations.
• Joe F. head score-master as well as contributing to a memorable and enjoyable weekend.
• Ardey V. returning to assist with scoring.
• Ardey and Joe scored approximately 11,250 bulls with exceptional accuracy.
• LouF. goofed around and worried.

Standout Performances

• JaysonB., 1st timer competed with his 30 cal FX Dynamic medaled 1st in "Pellet Combined" class and 2nd place Day 1 and 1st place Day 2. Good shooter.
• Dan B., in his second N50 Championship, competed with a new Thomas pellet rifle and earned four top-3 medals.
• Mike S., also secured 1st place in both "Pellet Overall" (one-gun) and "Pellet All" categories, earning the two custom AR250 rests and four top-3 medals. A significant achievement is his 4th place in the Sportsman class with his Thomas pellet rifle, surpassing nearly all rimfire competitors

Results
Key highlights:

1. Pro Class: MikeN. took 1st place with a score of 1494-78x - Slug Air Rifle followed by MarkC 1493-88x and MarkH. 1491-65 both with custom 22LRs.
2. Sportsman Class: MattK. and MikeT. Tied for 1st place with Matt taking the lead by X count – 1496-96x; 1496-81x; and 1495-95x respectively. 4 top competitors are within 2 points!
3. Pellet Class: JaysonB. scored 1495-85x with his Dynamic and DanB 2nd place 1492-85x; MikeS followed 1489-85x.
4. All Pellet Class: Ranked Pellet competitors shooting against only pellet shooters in all 3 classes. MikeS. 4459-238x; DanB. 4441-224x and BenW. 4422-159x.
5. All Combined Class: Ranked all competitors shooting against each other summed in all 3 classes with all rifles. MikeS. 4459-238x; MattK. 4458-218x and DanB. 4441-224x.

Feedback
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is the Webley&Scott Raider,I have the 10 which has a ten shot magazine.It has the Wood stock,bolt action,and 38"length.It is a nice swinging air rifle that is comfortable and fast on point.My Marauder is about 43" in length and feels ungainly compared to my Raider.Sorry I can not show pictures at this time.

Up for sale are two iconic and classy Falcon FN airguns. First up is a Falcon FN8 with a Walnut stock, 22cal multi shot, it comes with the Falcon quickfill mod combo and fill needle probe, 2-8 shot magazines, one original and the other is a SMW, also a SMW single and two shot tray included. She does have a slow leak and can be shot as is or Im including a oring kit for it to be serviced. $550 split shipping. Next up is a FN12, 22cal, single shot with a beautiful laminated thumbhole stock. $750 split shipping. Have more pics if needed, plse email for them if interested. Ill accept a postal MO or PP but fees on your end.

Anyone else seen the price increases on ammo at PA and AGD?

They appear to be marked down $6 per box and they’re offering free ground shipping. get em before they’re gone.

Hello All,
I have a question about buying from the classifieds. I see most sellers say PayPal Friends/Family preferred.
I'm wondering why the seller wouldn't send an invoice via PayPal which the buyer would then pay treated as "Goods/Services" which includes all the buyer protections a typical PayPal purchase would have.
Edit: My PayPal account issued a card with 0% APR. When I checked with PayPal they said it only applies to Goods/Services not F/F. That's the motivation for asking not any worry about being ripped off.
I guess better to just lay cash and be fine with it. I just normally like interest free deals is all.

Thanks and apologies for the original question, was misleading to my intention.

I found this on a online auction, no info to go on, looks like possibly a break barrel. Wondering if i want to bid on it.

I am having a custom poppet made for my Pinty Bullpup. I also wondered about the tariffs? Here is their reply for those interested. Glad to hear.
No problem at all. Our shipping partner has implemented the tariff collection in place and is ready to accept packages. However we are still waiting for the USMCA compliance forms to avoid most of the tariffs for the buyer. This should be ready tomorrow.

. Great morning pasture hunt . Like to hunt this area 2-3 times a year.