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Ballistics calculations

A question for the wider community as a whole.

When sitting down and working out your ballistic tables for your airguns what information specifically do you find useful and what do you want to discover exactly.

I see lots of programs and apps for calculating this stuff but I am not sure they are all that useful. What am I missing.

PCP Rifle  WTS WTS Daystate Revere .22

WTS .22 Daystate Revere Safari edition. Absolutely nothing wrong with this airgun, just don’t shoot it enough. This is the non-regulated model and it shoots like it has a regulator. I get a good fifty shots per fill. It gets 860 fps with 18.13 JSB and 900 fps with JSB 15.89 grains. I want $750.00 for it. Scope, mounts and rings are not included, but if you want them we can negotiate a price. I will accept paypal f&f or a check if you don’t mind waiting until it clears. If you don’t want to use f&f then add $30 to cover fees. I have good feedback so you can purchase with confidence. I will ship in the original box with fill probe, magazine and single shot tray. I normally eat the shipping but the last one I sold cost me $100 to ship, so if you live east of the Mississippi add $25 for shipping and west of the Mississippi add $50 for shipping. I pack well and ship quickly. Thanks for looking .

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PCP Rifle  WTS Umarex Notos F/S

Mildly custom Notos for sale.. CRC 25cc plenum plus C88 15cc plenum, for 40cc total plenum volume..
hand guard on pressure tube, AR style grip adapter and aluminum side lever for much better cocking functionality.

The rifle hasn’t been modded/ported at all , just bolt on mods.
Currently shooting 14.3 crosmans at 820-830 fps very accurately.

Comes with original take-off parts, original mag, single shot tray and fill probe plus a maple 15 shot mag.

Would cost you a bit over $500 to build one like it, I’m asking $350 shipped inside the conus. Red dot NOT INCLUDED.
Thanks!

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Beeman  How to tell if a springer needs tuning?

Hey all, not sure if this has been discussed before but I couldn’t come up with anything in my search. Long story short, I caved and bought a used R9 off AoA. When it arrived I discovered that it’s one of the OG Huntington Beach models in excellent condition.

Now I know this is an older gun, and I know AoA tests every used rifle before shipping, but I don’t know the history of this rifle and I haven’t had a chance to fire it yet. At the risk of screwing something up, I have a couple of questions.

1. How can I tell if this gun has been previously tuned, or needs to be tuned? I’m not sure how to assess the condition of the spring or seals, for example. Bear in mind I’m pretty new to this so still learning the terms.

2. I’ve seen advice to apply blue loctite to all of the screws holding the barrel in place. In the R9, are these just the flathead screws in the stock near the barrel?

Thanks in advance, I’m excited for this one.

Say hello. What state or country are you from?

I have been a member of AGN for 8 months now. When I read a thread I look out of curiosity on where the members are from. I am amazed they are from all around the world. How about we say hi and state your country or state to show how widespread this airgun sport is and crosses all boundaries?

I will start with Hello from Colorado, USA
Dan

Accessories  SOLD Champion's Choice Offhand Stand- Blue- with Pellet Tray

Up for sale is my used Champion’s Choice offhand stand. Here’s the description from Champions Choice:

“This Deluxe Anodized Aluminum stand is used to rest the rifle between shots when shooting the standing position. It is lightweight but strong and designed to take the weight of a heavy rifle. It also positions the ammunition block in the most convenient location. The shooter can deliver shot after shot with absolutely no shift of their position. The stand is compact so that it is not in the way on the range and it collapses to 24'' for ease of transporting. This deluxe stand will extend to 60'' and comes with a pellet tray which can hold either a tin of pellets or a match pellet box.”

As can be seen in one of the pics, the thumb screw for the pellet tray is broken but still functional. I’m selling this shipped in CONUS for $95.00. Payment by PayPal + 3.75% or Zelle no fee. Please PM me with any questions.
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HW/Weihrauch  HW35E-Great Rifle

I always thought the HW35 was an ugly duckling and I never could develop any interest in it. But after reading a number of posts on this and other forums by many that swear allegiance to this rifle, I had to see for myself. I recently bought one on sale in .177 caliber on AOA and have spent many enjoyable hours testing it in my 10M basement range. It shot great right out of the box with no twang or any other bad habits both with the factory iron sights and now with an Optisan CP scope perched on top. I've owned HW97Ks, HW95s, R9, R7s, R8s, but this one has become my favorite. Despite it's quirky looking stock and front lockup lever, this is truly a great rifle and I can understand why it's been in production since 1951. It's comfortable to shoot, not pellet picky and accurate. I'm in the process of shooting 20 5 shot groups with different pellets with this and my other rifles to see which is the king. Next up is my TX200.

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Shot at 10M with iron sights
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Shot at 10M with Optisan CP 4-16 scope

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Googling minimum FPE needed for pellet expansion.

I was last week-years old when out of curiosity I used GOOGLE AI to see what the minimum foot-pounds of energy was needed for pellets like the Crow Magnum, RWS Super H Point, Baracuda Hunter Extreme, etc need for expansion.

To my surprise, it had answers! And as it turns out, my (at that time) stock 392, with around 13+ FPE was below minimum by about 5 FPE (using the Crow Magnums as an example).

FX  Fx m3 compact

Just got a .22 fx m3 compact, I retuned it back to stock tune (ist reg, 150, second reg, 70, 16 on the 2. And 5 and a half turn) and it shot 803-808 fps very consistently on the jsp 18.1 grain. Is this normal? What's the best speed for the 18 grains? I know these are basic questions but bear with me as I'm very new to the Hobby. Thanks for any feedback
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Optics  WTS SIGHTRON S6 10-60x56 ED FT - Mill & Custom Magnetic Aluminum Parallax Ranging Wheel

Only mounted to look through it. Never used. The Glass is fantastic and the Ranging wheel was custom made. I am selling things to fund another project. If you buy this optic from the store, it is $ 1799 and if you add the wheel adds $200 on top of that.

You can buy both the scope and the custom magnetic ranging wheel for $1599 plus shipping.

I accept PayPal (add 3%), cashier’s check, Zelle.

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PCP Rifle  $$$ (2) Two Taipan Veterans .22 & .25 calibers $$$

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Decided I do better with conventional style rifles than B/pups,
(Already sold my other pups) so selling Both my Taipan veterans.
(Safe Queens)Taipan Veteran standard .22 caliber.

The original owner NEVER SHOT IT.
I have only put 20 shots thru it, so rifle is virtually new. Includes (2) magazines, single shot adapter, fill probe, ( Includes these addons, cheek piece, biathlon arm extension. Picatinny rail under forearm.) Owners manual. Set "O" rings.

ALL AS NEW, NO ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE RIFLE. NOTHING WRONG WITH RIFLE.

SCOPE/RINGS, NOT INCLUDED
$1060.00 SHIPPED
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.25 caliber HP taipan veteran 1 long with RED laminate stock. Was just resealed and tuned a month ago by Talon tunes, includes two magazines, Mag holder, single shot adapter, biathlon lever, donnyfl speed dialer, Has a plenum installed, Picatinny rail under forearm, moderator adapter installed 1/2" X20, fill probe, owners manual. I only ran one magazine thru in upon return from Talon Tunes. OVERALL EXCELLENT CONDITION

$960.00 SHIPPED --------------SCOPE / RINGS / BIPOD NOT INCLUDED
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Brocock/BRK  Ghost regulator not holding set point

So I put a digital gauge on my ghost a few days ago to confirm a suspicion I had about the reg… Turns out the suspicion was justified. I usually had the reg at 140ish but since I had to degas anyway to put the gauge on it o lowered a bit to work my way up. At 250b bottle pressure, the reg is sitting at 124b. When shooting the bottle down, the following happens with the reg set point (I gave it 45 seconds refresh time between all shots):

- 123b reg at 235b bottle
- 122b reg at 220b bottle
- 121b reg at 205b bottle
- 120b reg at 190b bottle
- 119b reg at 175b bottle
- 118b reg at 165b bottle
- 117b reg at 155b bottle
- 116b reg at 145b bottle

I didn’t shoot it further down yet to let it sit at 145b to see how fast it creeps back up over a couple of hours. Now I get it that this is to some extent expected but assuming the reg will end up at like 114-115b with the bottle at 130b, that’s almost 10b of lost plenum pressure down from 250b… plus it’s almost a linear decline in set point, 1b every 15b bottle pressure or so.

Before I tear into it and look at the reg, anybody experienced something similar and has an idea what can be done about it other than polish and rebuild the reg? The reg was adjusted maybe 4-5 times from new over a year or so that I have it, of course never down under pressure.

Thanks in advance!!

RTI  RTI MORA .25 cal Standard Review after 4 months ownership

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RTI MORA .25 cal Standard Review after 4 months ownership

Hi fellas, here is my impressions about RTI Mora 4500 slugs after receiving it.

Again, I’m not sponsored nor I got anything in return for this…well.. if you consider a hat shipped with spare parts as being paid or sponsored, go ahead, it’s up to you.

I really like to be honest giving credits when it is deserved.

This time I will jump to conclusions first then I’m going to walk trough what I like and what I don’t. These are just my opinions and nothing comes from “ What I have been told” but straight from what I have experienced.


In my opinion, having tried/owned most of the major Airgun Manufactures the RTI Mora is a real gem and the best, most accurate slug Airgun ever tried. It’s reliable, consistent, it never ever looses it’s POI even after cleaning unless your remove the shroud, it’s not cold bore shot dependable which means you could virtually hit a target from your first shot without refreshing your plenum and it will maintain the same velocity reading from the first shot to the set Reg pressure with really tight standard deviation and extreme spread of less than 9 fps. If your gun doesn’t do that problems apart, it’s your fault due to an incorrect valve setting.
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I’m not saying there is not anything else on the market but this gun suits all my needs.

A further explanation is necessary to explain what my needs are: my Mora is a hunting set up so I’m not necessarily looking for the best accuracy on paper what truly matters to me is power, killing power and a high BC because I love extreme long range hunting. I do not shoot in competitions, I do not care… so if you are more focused on PRS or target shooting this gun might not for you.

Most of my shots are from 80/100 m but inside 200 m range, and a good amount up to 350/400 m on steel.The only slug Brand capable of producing an awesome expandable projectile up to 300 m is ZAN Projectiles, at least here in Europe, other than that anything else stop expanding after 180 m, zipping trough a ballistic gel block like a pencil.

Another thing worth mentioning about this topic is that I do not shoot animals past 200 m normally, way too many variables and I do not like injuring those pests but it happened sometimes especially in the right conditions that I shot them so having a good hollow point slug is key.

Having said that, those Zan 45 gr slugs at 1033 fps delivering 107 ft/lbs or 145 j are unmatched precision and expansion by anyone else. They look like they were made for that fantastic RPB barrel which will stamp those tiny groups over and over again.: it’s a sub moa gun in the good weather conditions

What I like also about Mora is the ability to deliver a tremendous amount of power even with “only 600 mm barrel” and the possibility of running very high Reg pressures, talking about my Mora set up I’m testing the gun with only one Reg: I deleted the first Regulator and I’m running the second Reg with 180 bar pressure. I have to say I was skeptical about a proper Reg functioning, especially because I fill up the gun with 315 bar but it’s working awesome with no issues at all.

My next goal is start making my own Boat Tail Hollow point slugs, boat tails are the future in the Airgun world and I’m looking of high bc hp slugs in the 50/55 gr range. I have 66 pounds of beautiful Zan lead wire laying around in my basement waiting for a .25 cal Corbin die with BT punch to come. I wish I could get my hands on something with the above characteristics but here in Europe there is no manufacturers producing them yet so I’m not the person giving up on something I’m passionate about so I decided to invest on that.

Finally talking about those two things I do no like about the RTI Mora:

The rubber butt pad comes off very easily so I bought a 3d printed adjustable Butt Pad which makes the gun more ergonomic and enjoyable to shoot from a prone position.

The gun is very butt heavy, shooting from a tripod or a post it’s not easy. I did not find a permanent solution yet but nothing that wont be fixable with adding proper weights distributed on the front of the bottle rail.

Last but not least, technical support:

RTI Arms technical support is second to none, I received fast answers from Rok Avbar and Jakob Bončina when I messed around with the gun and received spare parts in one week after I assembled a reg part upside down damaging it.
In 4 for months I had one leak only so I changed only a worn out valve o ring but in the mean time I serviced the entire valve system just to be sure.

PCP Rifle  WTS RTI P3 - 3 Barrels, Moderator, Custom But Pad, Bipod- Pellets - Larger Tank - Extras - Option for Scope

Need to ger rid of some things to fund another project. The scope is not included but you can buy for an additional $599 (Bushnell Match Pro ED 5-30-56 less than 3 months old). I spent over $3800 for all I am selling.----- SELLING ALL FOR $1750 ------, You will also get 8 boxes of .25 altaros slugs 50 gr, 1box .22 JSB 15.89 hades, 1 box .22 FX 25.4gr, 1 box .22 18.1gr, 2 boxes .25 JSB 33.95, 1 box FX .25 25.4gr, 1 box of .30 Zans 56gr.

If you use PayPal add 3% for PayPal fees. You can send me a cashiers check (need to clear first prior to sending), and Zelle. The .22 it has never been used. Two barrels are the RPB with the enlarged transfer port. They are more expensive than the regular barrels.

RTI P3 Performance
1749​
double Reg New
180​
Huma Picatinny rail
120​
580 CC Upgraded Carbon Bottle
139​
Upgrade Ergo Grip
50​
RTI Carbon Moderator
180​
Barrel .22 RPB LW 600mm
350​
Barrel .25 RPB LW 600mm
350​
Barrel .30 LW 600mm
275​
MAG .22
55​
MAG .25
55​
MAG .30
55​
Single Shot Tray
10​
Pellet Pusher .22
0​
Pellet Pusher .25
0​
Pellet Pusher .30
0​
2 x barrel Removal Tools
40​
Barrel Shroud extension
25​
Custom fitted Biseley Rubber But Pad
80​
2X Power Plenum Extensions
100​
2 bags or General O-ring Kit
30​
I spent for all $3,843-- BUY ALL FOR $1750


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Airgun Technologies  new AGT Uragan 3 .25 cal 700 mm showing off

i weight sorted a 300ct tin of AEA 29.5 gr pellets, i ended up separately them in 29.5 and 29.6, the 6 off weight pellets i found were in a dime. 60 consecutive shots all touching dimes @55 yards
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PCP Rifle  WTS Alpha wolf 25. Cal

Hello everyone due some medical and financial situations I’m forced to sell some of my rifles.
I have for sale a DAYSTATE ALPHA WOLF BLUE EDITION 25 cal. It comes with alpha cheek riser,
Alpha gen 4 butt plate with mono pod, 4 alpha magazines , odb blue. See pictures
Asking price $2750.00 plus shipping. CONUS , local pickup its ok
I will take ( PAY PAL FF) CASH CHECK , VENMO . Please serious inquiries only and tank you for your understanding.
PM me for any question , no trades sorry.
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Anybody here shoot slingshots??

Just dug my slingshot out after years after recently watching YouTube videos about how to aim.. I was horrible at it back then but now I can consistently hit a 2 inch target at 15 yards.. about 16 out of 20 shots.. I'm going to keep practicing and then try it out on a hosp at my 15 yard feeder😁😁😁

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Postal Service Woes, Lost Barrel

Really just posting to vent, so apologies if I ramble. Most of this had been post in scattered threads.
Ok. I got a Challenger Elite .457 from Fox Air Power, February 2024 not long after they were released.
There's been many minor issues and they've provided excellent customer service. They replaced 2 regulators, one I damaged the 1st day shooting, the 2nd I damaged because original owners manual didn't have the instructions to degass before lowering regulator pressure. And they replaced a collapsed hammer spring.
Accuracy and leading were problems from the beginning which I tried resolving with different ammo's, casting my own slugs, different alloys, powder coating, fire lapping, polishing. I tried everything. Made it a little better for deer season last year and dropped 2 deer. But had a back injury cleaning up after a hurricane and the gun got put on the back burner.
Got a bore scope this spring and found I'd gotten an AEA crap barrel, totally unfixable.
Unfortunately it was just outside of warranty at that point. Contacted Fox Air the end of March about purchasing a new barrel. Sent pictures, we had several emails, and they went about trying to get me a new one.
Took what felt like forever for AEA to send the new barrel from the factory. But finally Fox Air received it and put it in the mail to me on July 11th. And they did it as a warranty, which I absolutely wasn't expecting. So I was overjoyed it was coming and wasn't having to sink more money into $1000 gun. Plus they said it was a Beefier barrel, not sure maybe they've been upgraded.
Now the US Postal Service has lost it. Disappeared from tracking as soon as they picked it up. WTF!!!!
Everything's been done by Fox Air and myself that can be, now it's just wait and see what happens. They did send it insured so that's a plus. But the suspense is killing me. Deer season could be come and gone if they have to file a claim and get 2nd barrel from China.
I've never mentioned Fox Air Power in relation to this gun because everyone has different experiences and opinions no matter which company is named. For me they've stood behind this gun since day one, done all they can for me to be happy with it and enjoy it.
As for the Postal Service, 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬!!!
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PCP Rifle  WTS $$$ (2) Two Taipan Veterans .22 & .25 calibers $$$

RIFLE # 1--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Decided I do better with conventional style rifles than B/pups,(Already sold my other pups) so selling Both my Taipan veterans.(Safe Queens)Taipan Veteran standard .22 caliber.The original owner NEVER SHOT IT.


I have only put 20 shots thru it, so rifle is virtually new. Includes (2) magazines, single shot adapter, fill probe, ( Includes these addons, cheek piece, biathlon arm extension. Picatinny rail under forearm.) Owners manual. Set "O" rings.
ALL AS NEW, NO ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE RIFLE. NOTHING WRONG WITH RIFLE.

SCOPE/RINGS, NOT INCLUDED

$1060.00 SHIPPED
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RIFLE #2------------------------------------------------------------------------------.25 caliber HP Taipan Veteran 1 long with RED laminate stock. Was just resealed and tuned a month ago by Talon tunes, includes two magazines, Mag holder, single shot adapter, biathlon lever, DonnyFL speed dialer, Has a plenum installed, Picatinny rail under forearm, moderator adapter installed 1/2" X20, fill probe, owners manual. I only ran one magazine thru it upon return from Talon Tunes. OVERALL EXCELLENT CONDITION

$960.00 SHIPPED --------------SCOPE / RINGS / BIPOD NOT INCLUDED

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new guy to airguns

Retired. Thinking about a pcp rifle. Have been using a Hatsan model 25 super charger pistol at the ranger. Its a tin can destroyer. Shooting at a 50 yard range with my 'powder' guns. So thinking about something inexpensive & hand pumpable to get my feet wet (G). Like it then I can go crazy and really annoy my wife of 52 years. "You don't need another gun.".

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