Thoughts on this? Looks like a Daisy 880 with better a quality stock. Maybe same internals and piston as the Winchester 77 variant?
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Description​

The Crosman Vapor Max .177 air rifle is the next evolution in variable pump air rifles—engineered for power, versatility, and value.

Chambered in .177 caliber, this multi-pump pneumatic rifle delivers up to 14 foot-pounds of energy, with velocities reaching up to 1100 FPS with alloy pellets and 900 FPS with lead. Whether you’re targeting pests or perfecting your aim, the Crosman Vapor Max .177 air rifle puts you in complete control. Adjust your power on the fly:

• 2 pumps: up to 450 FPS
• 5 pumps: up to 900 FPS
• 10 pumps: maxes out at 1100 FPS

Included are two Crosman Mag-Fire auto-indexing magazines—each holding 10 shots. While they load individually, having a second magazine at the ready means less downtime between reloads and more shooting with fewer interruptions. It’s a practical upgrade that adds real value to your shooting experience.

Daystate is proud to announce we will be the title sponsor for Extreme Benchrest 2025.

Extreme Benchrest is a phenomenal competition comprised of some of the best airgun shooters along side novice shooters looking to shoot in their first airgun competition. All shooters and spectators are welcome to come and watch or test their skills against shooters from all over the world.

Spots are limited, so get ready to register on 8/12/25 at 10 AM MST.



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My FWB 800X has been put aside for about 5 years with the air cylinder empty ( big mistake ? ). I took it out today to fill it up, all apparently went well , at least the pressure could be built and there was no hissing sound indicating leakage. When I checked it after about an hour , the pressure dropped to zero. When I tried to fill it up again, air was escaping freely through what seems to be a bleed hole on the cylinder ( see the photos ) . There is one such hole near each end of the cylinder. I believe it's a safety feature to prevent building up of excessive pressure but I filled it up to just about 120 bars today and the rated pressure is 200 bars. Now I need to fix it but I could not find any exploded diagrams of the cylinder on line. Does anyone know the structure inside ? I hope I will just need to replace a bust disc or something alike. Fingers crossed .....

Target practice doesn’t bother him!

Hey all , is there a blue strength locker that is reusable or not as strong ?
There is a post from a bit back that mentioned a different style , it was branded with letters and numbers ?
Thanks Ray

First 2 airgun squirrels, Huben gk1-25 cal. Bought from member drsquall , built by krazkool airguns. Great memories made this morning.

I got my new pcp gun today it’s an sig sauer virtus. I spent the extra money and got an air compressor. My question is,,say I’m down to about a quarter tank and I want to go ahead and refill it. Can I unscrew it from the gun with a quarter tank of air left in it or do I have to somehow bleed all the air out first and then unscrew it to fill it up or can I fill it up while it’s still attached to the gun.?? I know that there’s warnings saying that it’s a very high amount of pressure and I just don’t want it exploding on me or something. Sorry if this seems like stupid question like I said this is my first one.

I'm looking at getting an SCBA tank and all the peripherals. If competition erupts around here (prob not an eruption, more like a slow leak), I would like to be prepared to enter.

I was discussing the ins and outs of SCBA for PCPs and my wife asked: in competition, do they require tanks to be within their DOT life cycle, have a current test, etc.? I think she has a valid question...and I don't want to buy a cheap tank to find I'm required to have one that is within certification.

I recently purchased a new M4 with 600m barrel and had it tuned for heavy pellets from Utah air guns. It arrived yesterday and i am anxious to get going. However I am on a business trip and it will be a few day till i am home. For the time being I am trying to learn all i can that will better my experience. I am starting to think i should have went with the heavy slug tune instead and purchased a liner for the type of shooting i intend on doing. We have a few ranches here in Texas and I love to predator hunt as well as hogs. I also dabble in long range with my powder burners. I have several stands at the 80-200 yard mark with an abundance of hogs coming in daily. Also have a range capable of shooting far past what any pcp will do. With this in mind, do i just buy the barrel kit, or the sleeve itself? Do i need to go with a heavier spring also? Any help or direction is appreciated.

AirForce Airguns, the last true American manufacturer of pre-charged pneumatic (PCP) air rifles, is proud to unveil a limited production release of the Condor Slug Barrel, for serious slug or pellet shooters. Available only in .22 and .25 caliber, this exclusive edition is offered directly through AirForce Airguns.

For today’s high-BC airgun slugs, this unique Condor variant features a dedicated 23.5” unchoked Lothar Walther barrel, threaded ½-20 for airgun moderator compatibility. It ships with a new upgraded 3625 PSI (250 BAR) full 500cc air tank capable of increasing power to over 100 foot pounds. The rifle is capable of reaching velocities of 1040 FPS with a 40 grain slug projectiles.

“This is not just a modification — it’s a purpose-built slug rifle for shooters who know the difference,” said John McCaslin, President of AirForce. “This limited run of Condor slug guns delivers precision, performance, and power in a platform trusted by serious airgunners.”

Key Features:

• Slug Barrel: Premium 23.5” Unchoked Lothar Walther rifled barrel.
• Threaded Muzzle End: 1/2 x 20 Precision-machined for secure moderator or muzzle device attachment.
• Two Caliber Options: .22 and .25 caliber
• Condor Platform: Modular, lightweight, and powerful
• True American Made: CNC-machined and assembled in Fort Worth, Texas

Limited Availability

This special-edition Condor Slug model will only be available exclusively through AirForce Airguns while supplies last. This is a limited production offering — designed for slug shooters who want premium performance and factory precision, without compromise.

I got a brand new Delta Wolf from AoA in .177. My understanding is when using an advanced setting the values are fixed and the velocity should be very consistent. That is not what I am seeing but instead getting readings from the onboard chronograph that are all over the place with POI moving around with the velocity. Including a sheet of pics of the reading on the screen for a run of 13 shots. Pellets are JSB heavy 10.34 gr.

Any thoughts what to look at or should I reach out to AoA and tell them I have a lemon? Got the gun specifically as Daystate recommends this model for benchrest which my club only shoots in .177. Looking to use 800 fps as my velocity so I can also shoot silhouette at the club where there is a 800 fps max and not have to deal with scope zero changing with different velocities.

For Sale: Edgun Matador R5M Standard, .22 cal. $1150 shipped. Purchased new from Brian at Edgun West the gun is in excellent condition. There are a few very slight rub marks that are inevitable on the synthetic stock which do not photograph well. Four magazines are included along with a supply of spare o-rings (o-rings retain the pellets in the mag.) This allows for one mag in the gun and three stored under the Pickitanny rail. The mags are pictured in the photo showing the gun in the original box, they are covered with cling wrap for protection during shipping. It's extremely accurate and hits hard as you can get for a .22 cal. Anything under 18.13 grains is too light. The gun has had close to two 500 round tins through it. Unfortunately it has been discontinued, your chance to enjoy a legend!

Ships double boxed, insured, signature required, CONUS only. A phone conversation with buyer is mandatory prior to purchase. $1150 via PayPal.

I have a LIKE NEW FX Dynamic (both .30 & .357) that I purchased in late 2024 and put together and it has been a safe queen. Here is a breakdown of everything that comes with the gun:

1. FX Dynamic 600mm (retail: 2029.99) note: currently set up in .357
2. 600mm .30 caliber change (retail: $450) note: NEW; no rounds through this
3. Ergo Deluxe TDX Grip (retail: $39)
4. FAB Defense RAPS PRS Stock (retail: $190)
5. Kraford & Lypt Stock Adapter (retail: $80)
6. LUTH-AR Rifle Buffer Tube (retail: $69)
7. Saber Tactical Bottle Adapter (retail: $50)
8. 700cc 300bar CF Bottle (retail: $190)
9. DonnyFL Ronin (retail: $185) AFFIXED!!
10. DonnyFL Ronin QD Adapter (retail: $50)
11. Discovery Optics ED-ELR 5-40x56 FFP (retail: $450) note: I also have a used Arken 5-25 & another Discovery 4-20 scope if the 5-40x56 is too much for you
12. .35 Orion .357 "Heavy Hitter" Magazine (retail: $30)
13. UTG Recon Flex Bipod 8"-12" (retail $99)

EVERYTHING was purchased NEW and as stated there are less than 50 rounds through the .357 barrel (zeroed the scope). I enjoyed putting this together & thought I would use it more but it has been a safe queen.

Add everything up and I have over $3900 into this setup which is still in new condition & under warranty. It will come with the hard FX molded interior case, factory mags (1-.30 & 1-.357) manual.

PRICE!!!
Make me a fair and decent offer, cover shipping, and this will be yours!!

PAYMENT:
I can take PayPal (you cover fee's or F&F), Zelle, Check, or MO

I catch myself saying things like let me go get my "trusty Lyman trigger pull gage" or when I'm smacking the steel saying things like "Pa-ting" and now I have targets set up at 50 yards because of the "50 yard bell ring". I clearly have issues.

Hey all, been lurking for a while here and [I think] I am ready to start dropping cash into this alleged money pit.

I’ve had a cheap .177 springer in the past that was silly quiet. Could hunt the backyard all day and you only knew I was there when a stray pellet whacked wood. I picked up a “gamo gen3i swarm whisper fusion 10x” ~2 months ago and right off the bat, that sucker was LOUD. (I know I know, how could be such a fool and waste my money on Gamo?? Thankfully Bass Pro has a great return policy).

I’m looking to upgrade into the PCP world (already bought a cheap compressor from others recommendations).

Sound: by far the biggest concern for me. I’d prefer to have the neighbors have no clue I’m out there.
Range: realistically fairly close but I do appreciate flexibility in case I go hunting in the woods in the future.
Price: All told, I’m looking to spend under $600 between gun, scope, and other pertinent accessories.

I’ve narrowed it down to the Umarex Notos and the Stoeger Scout.
- Stoeger Scout: leaning towards this as it looks like it’ll pack more of a punch but it seems it’s loud out of the box. I have limited experience with AR builds so I’m not too keen on going to town with modifying off the bat. I’ve seen some thoughts of putting a moderator on but I cant make heads or tails of which to actually pick…
- Notos seems like a great fit but I’ve seen quite a few concerns about the small tank. I know I’ve heard “don’t get overly fixated on how much power they can pack” but hey, I’m human afterall

Any advice appreciated!

NO TRADES!
FX DRS Classic Synthetic 500mm - 30MOA Low Pic Rail - DonnyFL FX Moderator - FX Small Magazine - STUD 3D Magazine - $800 shipped Paypal F&F U.S. only

There is a new kid in town who is pushing the boundaries of what “PRECISION”, “ENERGY” and “LONG RANGE“ mean in the airgun world and NO… It’s not a gun

Say hello to the ACE Precision Slug. Available here at AirStryk Industries

Bought mine March of 24. Loved the operation but struggled with long term consistency. Issue was the bb spring tension on the hammer. Turns out vibration caused the grub screw to back out and thereby release the hammer adjustment to rotate any which way after every shot. It was such a simple silly thing. I added vibra tite to the grub screw instead of locktite by preference. Now assuming it holds, this fine instrument should perform flawlessly. Frankly, it’s a miracle that I shot any 1 MOA groups.

I have a barrel of particular interest that was machined for a clamp-style receiver at 16mm. It was not machined well and this surface is wavy and inconsistent by a couple thou.

I’d like to put this barrel in my RAW which needs to be .625 (+0/-.0005) diameter. So I assume the only good solution that keeps the length is to OD grind down to .625 and hope for 90-95% cleanup. (To be clear I only want the receiver end ground - not the whole length)

Suggestions who can do this? The local machine shops might but they aren’t barrel people. Bonus if they can machine the port and chamber too.

This project has been a long time in the making and Utah Airguns and AirMarksman just changed our sport!

2024 model. Excellent condition. Also comes with pic mount and dovetail mount. $240.00 Not a scratch anywhere!

I landed a part-time at a local gunshop and started this past Monday.

I was walking around the store to familiarize myself with where everything is located, and found our small (for now) airgun section. Currently we have 1 .22 cal pellet in stock - the Crosman 14.3 gr Destroyer. I've wanted to test these for a while now, so I bought a tin.

Once I got home, I saw the lid was painted - not a sticker, and on the packaging, it said "Made in the USA, with globally sourced materials." Isn't the painted lid the first giveaway of the USA made pellets (that plus the 'Made in USA on the packaging?).

Once I get my rifle back, I'm going to do an intense testing of the accuracy, and if they do well, I might buy out our supply.

Darryl 724-879-5204

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Corbin Manufacturing — Celebrating 50 years of precision. We supply the world’s top ammunition and airgun slug companies with the same precision dies and presses available to home swagers. From high-volume production to garage-based innovation, Corbin is the name behind the most accurate PCP slugs in the world—proven on the podium at RMAC.

What's the best way to remove the tiny "washer" under the grub screw air release on the rear of the stock (tube stock). Small leak there and Brian provide me with the tiny delrin washer but I'm not really sure how to remove the one that's there now. Hopefully the new one will just drop in straight to improve the 3 bar/24 hr leak.