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N/A  Airgun Idiocy

It honestly baffles me how incredibly dense some people are when it comes to airguns. Now, I get that your avarage joe who knows nothing about pressurized vessels might not understand the potential lethality of HPA... but this guy reviews airguns for a living. Like, what did he expect was going to happen? That it would gently deflate like a balloon? He's lucky that he didn't get a piece of shrapnel embedded in his face standing that close to the explosion.

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EDgun  Leshiy Classic Trigger

Hi to all,

The trigger of my leshiy classic sometimes has a strange (and annoying) behavior.
We (the classic owners) know that there's no such thing as a 2 stage trigger in the classic. But we all try to tinker with it to get
the best performance.

As I wrote, sometimes when I pull the trigger to the point where it breaks, and I don't take the shot for some reason, the trigger
doesn't return to the initial position. It seems that the envolved spring doesn't have enough strenght to do it.

Anyone with this symptom?

Thanks

Which AGN Members Would You Like To Meet in Person?

Pretty self-explanatory title. Which AGN member(s) would you like to meet in person? Why would you like to meet them?

If you want to meet someone in order to kick their ass or do harm to them, please keep that to yourself. That sort of conversation is an AGN rule violation and is in bad taste IMO. Also, this is not a love connection thread soooo……let’s stick to the topic aside from that.

Results  AOA & AirGun Oregon Extreme Air Gun Challenge 2024

Match Report

Air Gun Oregon & AirGuns of Arizona - 2024 Extreme Air Gun Challenge

I’d like to thank everyone who attended, some traveling from across country, and everyone who made such a huge effort to make this event a success. First the sponsors, Co-sponsors, Air Guns of Arizona, and Skout Air Guns, also Athlon Scopes, Falcon Optics, Arken Optics, Altaros Slugs, JSB Predator International and Corbin Slugs for donating some of their quality products toward hosting the event… The event also would not have been possible without my club mates: Randy, Jacob, Darren, Casey, Eric and the RSO staff from Ashland Gun and Archery Club.

Thank you, and bless you ALL for helping me make this year’s event a success.

The many weeks of steady preparation and testing of our new long range targets with LED lighting signifying a hit was worth the effort. They didn’t perform 100%, but they really helped the score keepers get it right with a lot less down time between relays in the Long range event. And seeing the lights flash with a hit is REALLY satisfying for both the shooters and the fans watching. The rest of the facilities needed only minor repairs to be ready for action this year.

We added a new event this year and it gained popularity better than expected. The 100 yard EBR bench rest contests have been exclusively shot with pellets only. With all the new air rifles designed for slugs and the new high quality of the slugs being manufactured, I thought we should see how they could compare with the pellet scores in the 100 yard EBR game. I scheduled the slug classes to shoot in the later and most windy part of the day, so the scores in that class probably would have been even better, but the slug class, as expected posted on average, higher scores than the pellets, as you’ll see as I continue the report.

This year we had competitors the Skout Air Guns team from Pennsylvania, and they did well with their new slug barrel they matched up with some really accurate Corbin Slugs. They ended up with 3 first places. Many competitors also traveled in from the North and South West, 36 competed in the 5 events, 100yd EBR pellet, 100yd EBR Slug, EFT 25yd-105yd Field Target, the Speed Silhouette challenge, and the Long Range 145yd- 300yd challenge..

The weather was perfect on Thursday for registration and practice. The skies were partly cloudy with light winds with temps in the high 60s. Friday, the cold front started moving in and the winds began their dancing in our Southern Oregon Valley bowl. A double rainbow was called in to guide the competitors to the eventJ

We had 24 Extreme Field Target competitors, so with 15 lanes we easily split up into squads of two each. We had 64 total shots. The match went 1/3 faster than last year with this method, it allowed us to have more time to do both pellet and the slug class 100 yard bench rest in the afternoons.

John Bagakis again this year lead the way with the high score on day one with a 59/64, with Barbara Pellegrino within reach at 55/64. Gabe Valenzuela and Darren Taylor were next with 52/64. David Stevenson was at 51, and eight more from 47 to 50. Unless John had a bad day two it looked like a tight race for second to fourth.

Friday afternoon, we started with the Extreme Bench Rest 100 yard Pellet class. Gabe Valenzuela scored the high card with a 220-3x with his FX M3, Luke Sowinski from the Skout team was second with a 218-2x, Keith Short, Skout Team, next with a 217-2x, Linas Cechavicius with a RTI Prophet II a 215-3x and Mike Bricker shooting another Skout at 213-3x. Skout Air Rifles ended up doing well with three 1st places.

Later Friday, the EBR 100yd Slug class started around 3 pm and the fickle winds had gained velocity as the front edge of the cold front unfolded around us.

Brad Stevenson and his Vulcan 3 with Altaros slugs in .22 cal (5.52) 40gr Kings, shot a 237/250 with 3xs. That’s 17 points higher than the high pellet score for the day of 220 shot by Gabe Valenzuela. But that is still a long way from the perfect 250 scores you sometimes see in 25 meter bench rest. Does that matter, or is the target too hard? Gabe V. also shot a great 232 4x with his FX M3 and, as did Luke Sowinski, but his had 7xs shot with his .25 cal. Skout and Corbin .2475 caliber 48.5gr slugs. Todd Blanchard shot a 229 3x, and Mike Bricker a 223 2x. On average the slug scores were about 10-14 points better than the pellet class.

Some great scores were shot on day two of the EFT match. John Bagakis didn’t let up… he shot better with a 61/64 to secure his 1st place spot, but Andy Gonzalez also shot a 61/64 after shooting a 49/61 on day one, to jump all the way to 3rd. Barbara Pellegrino was more consistent with a 55 day one and a 57/64 day two, to secure her 2nd place prize. Linas Cechavicius & Gabe Valenzuela tied, but Gabe took 4th by winning the shoot off.

Almost everyone shot better on day two with the lighter winds, but you would think the light rain would have held back the scores, but Carl Forrey shot a 60/64, Mike Bricker and Linas Cechavicius a 59, Martin Martin and Glenn Horner both a 58, and Gabe Valenzuela joined Barbara with a 57 on day two to get him to the winners circle in 4th place in the AOA Extreme Field Target Grand Prix.

Mike Bricker shot the high 100y pellet class EBR score with a 224-0x for day two. Todd Blanchard was next with 220-1x, Tony Pellegrino a 218-0x and Luke Sowinski a 217-3x. Todd Hartman scored a 216-1x and John Bagakis 215-0x.

The last event for day two was the 100y Slug class EBR. Todd Blanchard’s 233-4x was the high card, with Brad Stevenson recording a 230-3x, Gabe Valenzuela a 225-2x, Luke Sowinski 224-4x and also Chad Staten a 224-3x. Mike Bricker shot a 220-0x and Bill Gardner a 219-4x. The stronger afternoon winds had taken their toll with the Slug class EBR scores ending much closer to the Pellet class on day two.

Here is the list of the competitors who made the 100y EBR Pellet class Finals: Robert Steele, Mike Bricker, Todd Blanchard, Gabe Valenzuela, Nathan Wilkening, John Bagakis, Keith Short, Luke Sowinski, Linas Cechanvicius, Fred Philips & Tony Pellegrino.

And in the new 100y EBR Slug class we had the following make the cut: Bill Gardner, Chad Staten, Mike Bricker, Todd Blanchard, Gabe Valenzuela, Brad Stevenson, John Bagakis, Linas Cechanvicius, Augie Sotelo, David Stevenson, Luke Sowinski, & Fred Phillips.

Sunday morning the skies were clearing and the winds were very light. We started off with the Speed Silhouette Challenge. We had two banks of 5 targets each for a total of 10 targets at 25 & 50 yards so the two competitors could go “head to head” with the winners moving on to challenge each other until we were left with John Bagakis on top and Dave Wilson second, and Linas Cechanvicius in third. It’s a really fun game to play AND watch.

Next up was the finals in 100y EBR Pellet class. After some very difficult scoring decisions, an abnormal and very gentlemanly tie was agreed to between Mike Bricker and Robert Steele for 1st with a 216-3x next was Todd Blanchard with 214-0x, and Todd Hartman at 213-3x and Gabe Valenzuela with a 212-2x.

The 100y EBR Slug Challenge showed higher scores this time with Bill Gardner from the Skout team posting a 234-5x, and Chad Staten was right behind with a 233-5x next was a tie broken by X count with Todd Blanchard at 232-6x and Mike Bricker with a 232-5x.

This year in the 300 yard Long Range Challenge, Mike Bricker didn’t shoot another perfect 250 or even win again, but his team won with his FX Panthera; Tony Pellegrino (210) was 1st, and Mike and Tony’s wife Barbara tied for 4th with 190. Scott Hull was second with a 200, and Brad Stevenson & John Bagakis tied for 3rd with 195. Chad Staten also tied at 4th with a 190. The new targets we designed with LED lights flashing when hit really worked well, a minor improvement will make them 100% accurate next year. They really helped the spotters and competitors AND the onlookers enjoy the game.

Finally, in the Combined this year, Todd Blanchard was 1st, Brad Stevenson 2nd, Gabe Valenzuela took 3rd a and Mike Bricker 4th.

Again, I really want to thank everyone who attended made such a huge effort to make this event a success, especially our Co-sponsors, Air Guns of Arizona, and Skout Air Guns, also Athlon Scopes, Falcon Optics, Arken Optics, Altaros Slugs, JSB Predator International and Corbin Slugs Please support them with your air gun related purchases.

The event also would not have been possible without my club mates: Randy, Jacob, Darren, Casey, Eric and the RSO staff from Ashland Gun and Archery Club.

Thank you, all and hope to see you again next year!

Wayne Burns,

Match Director

AirGun Oregon & AirGuns of Arizona

2024 Extreme Air Gun Challenge

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Daystate  Daystate revere .177

Hello guys,
I just bought a new revere .177 from aoa,
And after first tank I realized the sound of the rifle changed,
Upon inspection a portion of o-ring that holds the transfer port in place was sticking out just under the barrel breach port!!!
Called Aoa and they said it happens after every 600 or shots!!!
They are sending me some spare o-rings and if that won’t work,
I can send the rifle back to Aoa,
Now my question to all u guys who use these pcp’s
Since this is my first ever pcp,
Why manufacturer has this portion shaved off at the entrance bottom part of the barrel port which is letting the o-ring slip out under pressure???
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FX  FX Panthera Barrel Conversion VS Hunter Compact

Hi all,
I am new to air guns and to the forum.

I purchased an FX Panthera 500 in 22 cal last year and mainly use it for hunting squirrels and other small critters. I like the rifle it shoots great and has great accuracy with pellets. But it's a little heavy and to long for my purpose. I am debating if should sell it and purchase the FX Panthera Hunter Compact or if I should just do the barrel swap? Ultimately I would like to have the folding stock and a short barrel (300 mm barrel).

Any input on what route I should take would be greatly appreciated.

"Is this already being discussed?" Great feature here on AGN forum website.

After typing in the subject title I was wondering if it had been discussed before and it hasn't. I think it's a great feature to not only post something that's already been posted but a good search tool to boot. I know there's a search tool but I haven't used it yet.

What I wanted to post was if there was a PCP .177 SEMI-AUTO rifle available. By looking at what's been already posted the answer is NO. To bad cause I'd really like one.
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Beeman  Beeman R10 Carbine

The R10 came in a deluxe version with a longer barrel and a checkered pistol grip as well as a standard model with a shorter barrel (16.14-inches/410mm) and no checkering. These two are the latter.
Got these rifles at auction. One is San Rafael and the other is a Santa Rosa. I believe the Santa Rosa has been tuned by John Thomas. It has his signature cupped hex head forearm screws. Plus it's not twangy....just a thud when fired.
Note the subtle difference in the shape of the forearms on these two.
These were the some of the best Sport rifles Beeman's produced IMO. Lightweight and powerful and not hard to cock, they also have the threaded end cap. Easy maintenance! The big drawback is the screwed on scope rail. I'm definitely not a fan if that! Beeman's attempt to make it lighter came at a price there. The compression tube was too thin to accommodate a dovetail. Compromise!!!
Regardless, these two rifles still look and function well after decades of life. Doc Beeman marketed his line as heirlooms. Here's two that passed the test of time.

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Help Me .177 or .22

I have both, a 54 Diana in 22 and the 34 in 177. Both plenty accurate for 30 to 35 yard hunting needs. BUT, will the 177, with the 8.4 grain Diablos it prefers be enough for rabbit and squirrel. What if the ole raccoon or possum are targeted occasionally?

Please, no thinkers, just those that have had hands on experience with both. at 70 years and an avid hunter, I know placement is everything, and have spent decades doing this with rimfire handguns, but the eyes aint what they once were, and I am dang sure not as steady as I once was!

Western Airguns  Medical notice ! …. Cure to rabbit hole discovered !!!....NOP, FALSE ALARM !!

Dear fellows, for right or for wrong (absolutely arguably) the cure for the rabbit hole is the:

“””” SIDEWINDER “”””

Any time I try to justify a new PCP, I have not been able to find an advantage that can compete with what the Sidewinders already provide me. And I have made the analysis of many rifles.

Please be aware !
..,.,...........

PD.- Just bought another one..... Did not got cured !!

Benjamin  New Guy Questions.

Hey everybody, I'm completely new to this activity so please bear with my novice questions. First I want to say that my first air rifle was a Gamo Raptor Whisper in .22. I thought it would be relatively quiet but I was wrong. It shoots well at the distance I need it to (10-15 yards) but the noise! Ugh.
I just received My Benjamin Marauder in .22 and a Hawke 2-7 scope. Waiting on rings. My question is, and I'm probably not going to get the terms correct so be prepared for that, if I was to install a regulator in this rifle, what pressure will the existing gauge on the rifle read? Will it still read the rifles chamber pressure? If not how would I know how far to go when filling it up? I'm hand pumping because at this point I won't be using it every day, but I'm not ruling out an electric pump. If your reply is why bother with putting a regulator in if you don't plan on using it that much, I would say that I need all the help I can get with shot to shot consistency, and accuracy. Thanks for anything you have for me.

10 shot 293fps ES!

My father has a Crosman Fire nitro piston in 177. His scope mount came loose, and he asked me to resecure it.

I degreased screws in the rings, mounted it all back up with some blue loctite, and went to zero the scope. I was having a hell of a time getting the thing to group. I suspected cheap scope that came with it was an issue. I mounted that on a PCP and shot 2 good groups.

I then shot the rifle over a Garmin chrono. Wholly hell, the FPS all over the place! The higher FPS shots did group, but the lower ones were thrown all over.

Any ideas what could be causing this? Is it worthwhile to look into it? It’s a cheap rifle, with a horrendous trigger (which I slightly improved with a longer trigger screw mod).
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How Often do you shoot ALL your guns ? For those with many airguns

Greetings fellow members.

Whenever I fill up my Scuba tank I go through all my guns ..shooting a few groups with each. Usually this takes about a week to go through them all.

It may be little ocd but I do this almost every time I fill up with air.

For me it keeps things fresh, as going from gun to gun you kinda have to relearn each gun. Keeps it interesting and quite fun

Anyone else do this ??

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Best Fittings Swiveling Kit for HP3 Omega Valve

Hi everyone,

I'm planning to purchase an Acecare 9L tank from Alibaba and equip it with the HP3 Omega valve. I also want to add a 2-meter swiveling kit connection hose from Best Fittings. I'll include pictures at the end for reference.

Main Concern​

The HP3 valve comes with a male nipple for filling the tank and connecting the hose. However, the Best Fittings swiveling kit features a "BEST Fittings 1/8″ BSP Snap Connector" designed to fit an existing 1/8″ BSP DIN cylinder outlet.

Question​

If I remove the male nipple from the HP3 valve, will the outlet fit the snap connector from Best Fittings?

Additionally, my local air filling shop uses either a female or male DIN 300 outlet. Best Fittings offers a 300 BAR DIN Female to BEST Fittings Quick Coupler Socket, which I plan to connect to the end of the hose if I can install the kit.

Also, what is the purpose and size thread of the 7.5k screw in the valve? can this also be used with a hose/kit?

Any advice or insights would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
@Billions


link to product list:
https://www.bestfittings.co.uk/shop/fill-lines-fittings/fittings/swivelling-quick-detach-hose-kit/

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FX  HOW DO YOU LOWER IMPACT SPEED?

I am reading about people achieving better results shooting slugs at lower speeds with their Impacts.

Just quick question…

Do you simply lower speed with the power wheel or do you retune down to a lower speed with the reg and hammer adjust screw?

Right now I’m shooting .25 slugs at around 970 fps on PW=12. Groups aren’t bad; could be better.

If I wanted to try say 900 fps is it a simple turn down to a lower power wheel setting or is it better to reset the tune to 900?
Hoping I’m being clear on this.

The Achilles Heel of the Diana 34

Once again, I'm happy to have bought a D34, this one a .177 T01 from 2002, but....

Once again, I am frustrated with Diana's approach to buttpads for these rifles. Meaning, they don't have one. And most of you will know what a hassle it is trying to shoot a springer well when the butt keeps sliding down your shoulder.

Even my recent T06 D34 has this problem, the only difference being that the T06 has a slick flat plastic plate, and the T01 version has a slick curved butt with some slick-edged grooves added. Both suck.

I have a nice fitting slip on buttpad on a T05 D34, which does work but also is an eyesore. I really don't want to go down that road again with the new rifle.

I'm hoping that there is a screw-on pad that, by chance I'm sure, fits either version D34 stock. I am willing to cut the end of the T01 flat to install a screw on. I don't have the hand skills or even a proper belt sander to try fitting an oversized one.

Hopefully someone out there has found something that works and can share that here.
Honestly, it would probably be a nice catalog item for a buttpad company to come out with. Think of all the D34's out there, and why it's important to good shooting....

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