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Results  Open Grove N50 6/14/2025

Happy 14th!

Nice conditions today. Bunch of 750s today.
I gotta go.. More later.

Thanks for adding content guys. Yup, Tim Elliot took the long drive south to join us and Perry shot 177 slugs - he did good. Bobby's back in good form minus the limp from his staples - he gave JoeF a really good run. As Ed said, the 2nd card wind was tricky. Dennis showed up with a pretty new Turbo - geesh save some 250's for us.

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Want to Start a Youtube Channel? Here are the Basics of Posting to Youtube (Video)

Thinking of starting an airgun related Youtube channel? That is a terrible idea. ...but if your going to do it anyway, here are some tips on how to post a Youtube video in 2025, and gain every possible advantage.

If you make a channel about almost anything else in the world, you will likely be successful, making 6 figures after a couple years (just off ads). If you choose guns, you will be fighting Youtube and shadow bans the whole time. I made this video for a couple friends who are doing channels. Good luck! -Nate

PCP Rifle  SOLD Fx DRS PRO 700 22cal $1600 shipped

Sold.

Fx drs pro, 700mm 22cal. 2 fill probes 1 stock 1 stainless huma probe, 3 mags 1 stock 2 orion, ergo 90 grip, mdt internal weight bar. Regs set @ 160. Shoots hn33s 217s @990. $ 1600 shipped ups with tracking and signature confirmation. Zelle or Paypal F/F or you add the fees.

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Other  Sekhmet 2nd Generation 28Pro Gauge Firmware Update Failure

My current Firmware version is V6.0C 23F03 trying to update to the latest Version V6.4C 25A09.
One of my two gauges seems to have a bug, won't stay on Regulator setting, keeps defaulting to Pro setting.
I haven't found any information about the latest firmware version, but thought it might fix the bug.

Followed the step-by-step guide, Gauge displayed DFU-2304 R 2 Exit. Clicked Next and the programmer displayed "No response from device" error message, and the programmer would not proceed to next step. Attempted a few times to start over from the beginning of the process and then my Sekhmet 28Pro Gauge freezes displaying the battery charging icon.

I have to wait about 48 hours, for the battery to drain, before I can restore function of the gauge.

The gauge finally discharged and shut down, I fully recharged the gauge. After restoring the Gauge, I attempted to try again with another laptop.
On the 1st attempt, after connecting the cable, the Gauge freezes on the charging progress bar.

The 1st failed attempt was on a laptop running Windows 11.
The 2nd failed attempt was on a laptop running Windows 10.

I found a post about this issue, on Facebook from almost a year ago, but no resolution was discussed.

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Raccoons

I hadn’t had any for so long now I had debated parting ways with my .30. Glad I hadn’t because I’m 4 ducks short. I got one a week ago one before that broke my live trap and one last night was caught mid jaunt to my coup. Didn’t have the gun with me. So now I’m waiting tonight for one to come back. They have been steady on showing up according to my trail cam. Good thing I kept my .30 after all.

PCP Rifle  NLA Gen 1 Blue crown 25cal 600mm

long time member rarely use the classifieds..@ 75 yards a laser 25 cal crown flawless comes with carbon fiber shroud, org magazine, and the org slide shroud and parts, its a dove tail but will include the proper mounts for a 30 mm scope.I it will come with a thread protector.and a fresh tin of its favorite pellets.$1100 ...split UPS 3 day ground.
only Venmo or postal M/O even personal check once clears.
thank u text or private message 7853028060
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Projectiles  SOLD .30 pellets - Large selection - JSB, FX, H&N

No longer shooting 30 cal pellets in my airgun hobby so cleaning out the bin.

5 10 17 27 32 tins - JSB .30 cal 44.75 - $15 ea
3 full 1 partial - JSB .30 cal 50.15 - $45 for lot
5 full 1 partial - H&N Barracuda .30 cal 46.3 - $45 for lot
4 full 1 partial - JSB Hades .30 - $60 for lot
2 full 1 partial - FX .30 46.3 - $30 for lot


All prices above shipped CONUS - PayPal F&F, Venmo, Zelle

Will only sell the small lots complete. The main group of 32 tins of JSB 30 cal at least five per group.

Total for everything listed above is $660 as priced. If interested in the whole lot then message me. In Ohio just north of Dayton if interested in local pickup.


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PCP Rifle  SOLD Epic Two .22 700mm CZ - spare parts - $1800 shipped

Epic Two air gun .22 caliber with 700 mm CZ unchoked barrel and folding stock.

Comes with everything in the picture. Two magazines, spare parts and o-rings. Including the pellets it's currently tuned for. Really enjoy this gun and very accurate at long range. Only selling because I'm thinning the herd and I have a few guns that are about the same. Has not been shot much and is in very good condition.

Asking $1800 ship to CONUS - PayPal F&F, Venmo, or Zelle.

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PCP Rifle  NLA Anschutz 8002 for WFTF or Bench Rest (Reduced)

Anschutz 8002 converted for Field Target by A.Z. Can be used for WFTF with either stock, or can also be used for Light Varmint Bench Rest. $2500 + shipping as pictured with both stocks. (if you know, you know..) Too many toys, too many bills, not enough time... Let's get or keep someone interested in either sport... View attachment 570488

PCP Rifle  WTS Vulcan 3 (Black) .30 Like new SLUG SHOOTER $1299 (w/ Test Groups @ 100yd)

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Beautiful gun. Only shot a few times from the bench. Includes 2 magazines and fill probe, some accessories. (Ships the same day well packed and double boxed. PM me here or call or text 360-844-0962) Price: $1299 free shipping

...with AVS slugs, here is 25 shots at 100 yards:

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Huben  Huben GK1 not precise at all. What I am doing wrong?

I finally put some serious time to the pistol, and no matter what I do, I can't get good groups.

I tried many pellet shapes and power configs, the best results seem to be with some norica light slugs (1.8gr) at around 20 joule, yet the pistol shoots out of the group when she feels like it. I'm using tripod and resting bag, 10 meters, and it's a disaster.

Even more, changing pellet or power config means not only a slight comprehensible deviation, but not even hitting the board and re-starting again.

Laser boresight adjustment... useless even as a reference, leaving a perfect pellet + power config that more or less works (yet she always puts random shoots far out the group) and next day it changed completelly the POI. It's exasperating and I'm about to give up, and yes I cleaned the barrel, shoot with and without silencer etc...

I am behing too exigent with the pistol? Because I have 50 buck plinkers more precise than this and I'm feeling ripped off. Some of your shoot results on the treath are more or less comparable with mine, but some that have putted a dim tight group... with what pellet power config?

Is it just that it is very picky with ammo?

Traditional Rifle  NLA TX200 For WFTF

TX200HC currently tuned with Tony Leach Skirted 22mm piston to;
Avg: 795.9
Stdev: 2.4
Min: 791
Max: 800
Spread: 9
MV: 796
FT/LBS: 11.88 @ 72*F

Includes:
Gary Cane Stock w/ Sub MOA Systems butthook
Tony Leach Skirt Less piston
Big Nikko 2nd gen with Oversized elevation turret and Parallax wheel


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PCP Pistol  NLA Letting my Viper X .22 go for Cheap ($599)

Great gun. Never used by me, accept to film the video, but when I sent it to New England Airguns to fix a slow leak, they did use it for 6 months as thier personal gun and then sent it back to me un repaired. (Dirt in the safety switch grooves that were clean when I sent it in). I was able to tighten the guage and it fixed the slow leak. Great gun. I just don't need a bunch of random air pistols. Great value since I think these sell for about 2X this price.

Price $599 (plus $25 shipping) You can PM me here or call or text me at 360-844-0962

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N/A  Off the Shelf?

I’m throwing this out there for discussion.

Can you buy an off the shelf gun and compete at RMAC or EBR with a reasonably good expectation of doing well? No accessory barrels, etc. just a normal set of adjustments to get the gun shooting at the proper speed for the pellets of your choice.

I’ll go first. In 2022 I was shooting .22 caliber RD Monsters most of the season with an older Red Wolf HP. We all know the troubles JSB has/had with pellet consistency and flyers, especially from that pellet.
So about a month prior to EBR, I had had it with the occasional flyer ruining a good scorecard. So I called AoA and ordered a .25 Red Wolf. It shot the .25 King Heavy on mid power at 940 fps. I installed my favorite BR scope, a 15-60x Vortex Golden Eagle. 🦅
At EBR 2022, I squeaked into the finals with so-so 75 yard scores, and then finished 3rd in 100Y Pro Division ($2,000 prize).
Bone Stock. Nothing done or added to the gun. I still have that gun, now in a red PRS Chassis (thanks AoA!!!) and will be shooting it in Speed at RMAC next week.
Why not 100Y BR you ask? It’s a 225+ gun, not a 230+ gun, which is what is necessary these days to make the finals and the podium.

Your turn.

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Crazy New Gun Justification

What are some of the craziest reasons you used to convince yourself to buy a new gun?

I'll start...

I had a large assortment of .177 10+ grain pellets and the highest power rifle I owned at the time was a Crosman Fire. Not nearly enough juice for heavier pellets. So instead of just shooting through what I had and sticking with my .22 PCPs, I decided that it would be better to get a higher-powered PCP and see what I've been missing. I bought a Reximex Meta .177 off of the classifieds and haven't looked back.

N/A  Aigunsmithing Tools - Advice and Suggestions

Instead of purchasing guns, I'm to the point where I'd like to acquire many things necessary to complete my setups and to maintain my equipment. I'm to the point where I'm more comfortable trying to work on my own airguns. Sending airguns off to professional shops seems to be a hit or miss affair. I've read online quarrels, horror stories, and then there is the mail-order ping pong game where you ship your gear in for service/warranty work, a tech claims they don't see anything wrong or claims to have done some work, but your gun is returned to you in the shape that you sent it off. Although some shops do great work, not all shops are thorough. With that said, I'd like to pick your brains on tools and accessories necessary to smith my own airguns. I'm ready to start purchasing quality tools that will last for however many years I have left in the hobby. Right now I'm looking at vises. The WorkIQ IQ Vise was recommended by @CoyoteGod and I stumbled upon Berry's Machine Vise for the same price. Both appear to be able to rotate 360º which is great.

Berry's vise https://palmettostatearmory.com/berry-s-machine-vise-complete-system-black-blue.html

WorkIQ's IQ Vise https://workiqtools.com/products/iq-vise

What other airgunsmith tools do you all recommend aside from the typical torque drivers, picks, punches, hex wrenches, padded pliers, spanners, strap wrenches, wooden dowels, bore scopes, etc? What sort of tools for restoring crowns would you all recommend? I saw @nervoustrig with a wooden clamping contraption to work on a barrel, maybe some sort of barrel vise. Is that something that you made?

A mini-lathe is in the cards eventually. I'm still not ready for that. C'mon, hit me with what comes to mind as far as answers and suggestions. Links and photos are welcomed. I probably won't recognize half of the things y'all suggest. If you're interested in doing some of these things for yourself and are just getting started or don't know where to start, jump in with your questions, but please try to remember the focus of this thread is TOOLS FOR AIRGUNSMITHING.

FX  Don't Quite Understand?

How do the regulator/macro adjustment/micro adjustment wheel work together? If I change the regulator setting, does that have anything to do with the power at the muzzle? If so, how does that work? I watched a video in which a guy who was showing how to tune a Panthera, said that the macro wheel really doesn't do much, that the real change in power/velocity comes from the micro wheel. I have read the owner's manual, but come away still scratching my head as how all three interact and/or influence each other. If you would, please explain this whole shebang to me as if I was a fourth grader, your input will be very welcome. Thank you in advance, have a fun weekend.

Sorting and weighing pellets for vertical accuracy improvement:

Just finished weighing a tin of 400 JSB .117 Diablo Match Exact Monster 13.43 gr. pellets. Why? Looking for a tighter vertical spread shooting my RWS Diana 48 at a 40 yard target using a bench sandbag rest and 6X scope. I am typically getting 1-1/2" to 1-3/4" vertical spread with a few outliers which could be me or the gun. Horizontal variations are very acceptable within 3/4" average pretty consistently. Here are my pellet weight sorting results from a new tin:

Only 56% of the 400 pellets are within 10 gr. +/- 13.43 gr.; which is surprising as the tin specifically states "Match"!!
29% are 11-15gr. over 13.43 gr.;
11% are 11-15 gr. under 13.43 gr. and
4% are deformed or obvious outliers.
I found this sorting and weighting experiment very interesting, though tiring. Took the 56% to the range and found a very positive 3/4"-1" vertical grouping with 3 targets, each with 5 shots. Horizontal spread actually improved to 1/2" average.
Happy it was not the gun or me; but again surprised how few pellets are within 10 gr. of labeled 13.43gr Match tin...barely over 1/2 tin !

PCP Pistol  WTS .22 Ataman AP-16 pistol with both Long and Compact barrels and chamber-tubes. PRICE REDUCED, now $900

I'd prefer to sell this excellent condition AP-16 as a set with both barrels and chamber-tubes, without optics, for $900 (plus shipping). I could sell the Compact barrel/tube set separately for $175; however will not sell the Long set separately.

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With the rifle scope and Long barrel set pictured above she consistently averages sub-1" five-shot groups at 50 yards. The Compact set can average sub-half inch at 25 with a scope; sub-3/4" with non-magnifying red-dot sight.


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The gauge on the Compact set reads much lower than correct, so I depend on my compressor gauge when using the Compact chamber-tube. Otherwise everything about the pistol and both sets are in perfect functional and cosmetic condition, with no other problem or issues of any kind.

The pistol will come in the original box with papers, fill-probe and two magazines.

Feel free to call me for more information or questions.

Thank You,

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