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Not pistolas…

It’s amusing to me seeing some taking the buttstocks off of “rifles” and calling them “pistols” for field target shooting. Why not simply a “buttstockless” rifles division? Unless you can “holster” the arm it “isn’t” a pistol. Just because you take the buttstock off of a long arm, does not make it a pistol…. “Pistol field target” a sham game I will never play… A more honest approach would have Pistol Field Target reflect what a “pistol” “is” a holsterable “sidearm”. Thoughts?
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New Corbin Site

This week I've noticed that Dave Corbin appears to be transitioning from the old disjointed site to a newer, refreshed, and more intuitive website. Anyone else seen this? Apparently the company is under new ownership. Not sure when the switch occurred.


Owners and manager listed on the new site

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VEVOR Air Compressor review

Hello everyone.
I have this compressor I want to give my feedback on.
Vevor 4500PSI.
Been pretty happy with it, love the fact that it's 120volt/12Volt, I can just take it with me to the field and refill my tank, love that fact.
Also they did improve cooling from previous model that only had one fan, now it has two, they are little loud but they do cool well. I can fill my Crown tank at once without getting it too hot. Auto shut off also a good thing.
Can't say anything bad about it.
Here is the quick video I did on that subject, discount core in the video description if you thinking of getting one.

One thing I need is to get secondary air/water separator, if you have recommendations, please post it below.
Thanks again.


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Anschutz  German tunnel front sights

There's been much discussion about iron sights on the forum lately, so a few notes about tunnel front sights may be of interest.

This photo shows two familiar vintage German front sights. They have three basic parts:
+ tunnel housing that clamps to grooves at the muzzle
+ sighting elements in the form of flat metal inserts with side tabs for alignment
+ threaded sleeve that clamps the insert into the tunnel

This simple design permits inserts having different sighting elements - tapered or straight posts, sidebar or lollipop rings, etc. - to be easily interchanged.


Over the years, German sights used three different standard thread sizes for the sleeves. These will interchange between makes, and enabled the development of aftermarket accessories that likewise fit any sight tunnel with the same sleeve thread.

The earliest sleeve size used an M17 thread (17.0 x 0.5mm), which Diana and Weihrauch still use on sporting rifle sights. Anschutz later developed the slightly larger M18 thread (18.0 x 0.5mm), which remains very common. Most new top-of-the-line 10-meter guns use a yet larger M22 thread (22.0 x 0.5mm). Aftermarket accessories are no longer made for M17 sights, but there is a world of interesting goodies available for M18 and M22.

Now here is where some confusion comes: THE SLEEVE THREAD AND THE METAL INSERT SIZES ARE DIFFERENT THINGS! The tunnels have an internal "shoulder" - slightly SMALLER in diameter than the sleeve thread - into which the insert nests:


Therefore, SLEEVES of the same size DO interchange between different manufacturers' sights, and take the same accessories. But with a few exceptions, the INSERTS are proprietary and DO NOT interchange between makes, since their diameters and side tabs differ. Here's a random selection of what I have on hand:


Note in the photo two interesting exceptions to the proprietary rule:

+ Walther: they pioneered flat metal inserts in the 1950's, and Diana and FWB copied their M17 insert pattern verbatim - even though FWB has an M18 tunnel and sleeve! But the three made different types and sizes of posts and rings, making them fun to interchange (Diana's beaded post is a personal plinking fave).

+ Anschutz: their M18 inserts, with their distinctive asymmetrical tab pattern, are almost an informal industry standard, used by other manufacturers. They offer many different post and ring elements, and there are many aftermarket inserts and other accessories. Their older tunnels fit perfectly centered on Weihrauch barrels, too.

As far as I know, the Weihrauch insert pattern remains strictly proprietary. Shooters are limited to the six element shapes they have offered for many years; you can't use them in any other brand of sight; and no other brand of inserts fits.

With what airgun(s) do you get your best accuracy?

In the area of your 'typical,' most frequent shooting, with what airgun(s) are you able to achieve the most accurate results? I shoot inside my home at thirty feet almost exclusively, and the airguns with which I do my very best shooting are listed below, in order of results from best on down. All of them are variable pumpers with only their 'stock' iron sights, unless otherwise noted, and interestingly, the accuracy I can get with the first two is good enough that it's just about a toss-up as to which allows me to get the VERY best results:

1) Crosman .177 caliber, 1300KT custom carbine, with 18" barrel, black muzzle brake w/post front sight and Crosman/Williams notched rear sight. rather than the more common Williams peeper (simple notch and blade open, or the more commonly used term, iron, sights happen to be my overwhelming personal favorite for aiming, since they're most likely going to be available on almost anything I encounter).
2) Seneca Dragonfly MK2 in .177 caliber (my .22 MK2 requires far too much 'Kentucky Windage' to be reliably accurate, because of elevation limitations in the rear sight assembly).
3) Benjamin 397s, an excellent shooter with very nice iron sights, shooting from a rest. Without the rest, my results almost certainly would be different, because of the buttstock comb interfering with free-standing aim. I can get roughly the same accuracy with my 392s, but I prefer the smaller holes and reactive impact halos of .177 caliber pellets, especially for shooting groups, so my 392s basically is relegated to pest control duty only.
4) Crosman C2023 Anniversary Edition in .22 caliber, with a Williams peep rear sight & blade/fiber optic front sight, allowing me to easily get surprisingly (to me) fine accuracy. I would prefer a .177 caliber version, with notch and blade sights, which actually is doable, using available aftermarket Crosman parts and rudimentary gunsmithing skills, but for now it's .22 only (and it was expensive enough as is, when it comes down to it). ;-)
5) Winchester 1977XS; an excellent, inexpensive, higher-quality remake of the Daisy 880, with a notch rear & blade front sight. The rear tip of the front blade has a small, hi-vis white dot imprinted to aid aiming.
6) Daisy 880 & Daisy 901 -- very inexpensive but very accurate air rifles at 30 feet with only iron sights. The all-black, kit version of the 880 (5880) has a blade front sight, the same as that used on the Winchester 1977XS, which I much prefer to the basic 880, which is equipped with a blade and fiber optic front sight. The 901 uses the same sights as the 880.
7) Crosman 1377 American Classic pistol with shoulder stock, with the rear sight adjusted to its notch, rather than peep hole, side.
8) Crosman 1322 and 2289 Drifter carbines w/attached shoulder stock, with notched rear and blade front sight on the 1322 and a blade/fiber optic front sight on my 2289 Drifters.
9) Crosman 2100b Classic and Legacy 1000 are quite nice, although each requires more pumping than any other pumper, without producing more power (make that 'more pumping than MOST other pumpers; my Dragonfly MK2's need fifteen (!) for max power). I find each can be shot with roughly equal accuracy, but the awful rear sight and large front sight blade w/fiber-optic implant on both make precision more difficult than it should be: it's almost impossible to adjust their poorly designed rear sights precisely enough to get the windage perfect, and there's also too little allowance for elevation. Even when dialed-in (as much as that's possible), sometimes I can shoot them quite well, but sometimes I can't. IF these were the only air rifles I owned, I probably would be able to get reliably repeatable, reasonably fine accuracy with them, but they're just different enough from everything else I shoot regularly that it's more hit or miss than it needs to be. There really are no advantages to the differences between these and most other (just about ALL other) air rifles with variable pump pneumatic power supplies, at least, none I can discern. Still, the build quality and capability are good enough to warrant keeping and using.
10) My other seventeen or so airguns (rifles, primarily, but even my pistols have rifled barrels). :)

Basically, pretty much everything from numbers 1 through 9 (as well as others not listed) is something I can shoot with the expectation of hitting the thing at which I'm aiming. It's more a matter of how easy that is that determined the ranking. The easier it is, the better I do. The better I do, the easier it gets, and the more often I shoot that airgun, which improves how I do even more, and the cycle goes 'round & 'round and reinforces itself. There are some exceptions. For example, when it comes to my American Classic Crosman .177 and .22 caliber air pistols with shoulder stocks, often I can get fantastic, very accurate results with the supplied sights, but simply not as easily as I can with the airguns listed before them. It's about the same with my remaining unlisted pumper, break barrel and CO2 airguns (no PCPs), excepting in particular my Crosman M4-177, M4-look-alike pumper. Unfortunately, for me the accuracy I can get with it is up in the air, for the most part. If I'm not totally and completely zoned-in, the cheap plastic 5-round, manually operated magazines and the poorly molded peep sight are too imprecise and finicky in use for me to stay focused enough to reliably shoot the thing with fine accuracy. Sometimes sure, but most times, no (somewhat similar to my Crosman 2100 and 1000 results: again, if it were my only airgun...).

My two gas-piston breakers are VERY accurate on a rest, but really too powerful for indoors, and without a rest, one of them requires unique efforts so unlike anything else I shoot that I don't really want to account for it, so usually they sit in the rack. Also, three of my five CO2 airguns (my Umarex 850M2, Sheridan 2260MB and Beeman QB78s) allow me to shoot and achieve EXCEPTIONAL accuracy, as good or better than that I can get from my best pumpers, but I simply don't shoot with them nearly as often. Mainly, that's due to not being able to shoot them with anything but their full power, but also because of the necessary wastage when I'm not shooting long enough to fully deplete two full or one large gas cartridges. Also, I forgot to mention my Crosman C362, with which I easily get quite good accuracy, with its stock Crosman rear sight turned over to the notch side (the front blade is very nice too, IMO), although I did force myself to gain proficiency with the peep side too, as the rear sight was set on arrival. I'd judge the accuracy to be about equal to that of #5, my Winchester 77xs -- I much prefer its front blade to the 'fiber optic' sight on the C2023 and Drifter carbines, and I shoot it often enough that I'm able to get quite good, reliably accurate results with it. The C362 is a very nice, very affordable, pretty powerful (compared to most other pumpers) little carbine, and my favorite pumper for most of last year! I'm probably leaving out others, but that's it for me. How about y'all?
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RAW TM1000 Rifle/ Pistol Twins

Had to take some pics.

Getting these bad boys ready for the Southern California Grand Prix next upcoming weekend.

Twin New RAW TM1000
Twin Falcon X505 FT scopes
Sub MOA Systems Hamsters
Maestro Designs Buttplate
Sub MOA Systems Buttplate

Magnetic Sidewheels designed and manufactured by myself.

Both 177 12fpe, 15" barrels capable of being swapped to pistol FT with one screw and hamster removal.

AMAZING!

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N/A  PCP advice

Sorry in advance for being so long winded on my first post.

I'm not new to the PCP air rifle. I had a Daystate Huntsman in .177 and a Theoben Rapid MK II in .22. They were stolen in a break-in at my home about 3 years ago.

I'm wanting to get back into air rifles again.

I've been watching many a video on YouTube as it relates to the new air rifles. What its done more than anything is confuse me some because of the choices. I'm a range shooter and hunter. So I'd like a gun in which I can do both. I'm strongly considering a .25 from one of several makers. I'd like to shoot slugs and pellets with slugs being shot at a 100 yards or better. It will be used quite a lot for pest removal (birds, rabbits, groundhogs, possums). I'd like to have enough power inside 75 yards with the right slug to possibly take a coyote though this will be the exception.

So I guess I'd like an accurate, powerful, well balanced rifle that has proven itself to be a reliable gun. I realize you can issues with any air rifle. I just don't want to get one that is prone to problems.

I'm considering one of the following. AT this point there is no particular order to preference.

  1. Western Sidewinder in .25
  2. BRK Ghost in .25
  3. Taipan Veteran II in .25
  4. Airmaks Arms Krait X in .25
  5. RTI P-3 in .25
  6. RTI Prophet 2.1 in .25
Thanks for any advice you may offer,

FX  New FX Wildcat MKIII BT .25cal Hydro-dipped

This is my 1st Wildcat. I already own 2 Mavericks and really like them, but originally during Covid, I wanted a Wildcat but they were out of stock. I had this one Hydro-dippsed and it turned out really well. It was originally a .30cal, but I converted it to a .25cal. Regs are still at 180/150 but anymore I only shoot JSB 33.95 pellets or JSB KO 33.49 slugs anyway. Either way, I thought someone might be interested in what Black and Blue digital came looks like. I love FX, but I'm am over all black airguns.

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Sheridan  Back to 5mm....?

Not having a Sheridan since the early 1980’s, and owning/selling a few Weihrauch 5mm’s, I swore them off after getting into 22 caliber. Then, I got a Benjamin 392 that brought it all back. I have been enjoying this 22 caliber 392 pumper and shooting it more than I have Springers in a few years. So, I decided to get a Sheridan again. Always wanted the Silver Streak but never got one. Picked up this one from a fellow member here (Thank You!) and a newer 2003 also. To beat all, I sold all my 5mm pellets a couple years ago to a fellow member (I can hear him smiling) to boot. Oh well, I won’t shoot these as much as the 392 anyway. I may not shoot as many shots in a session as a barrel cocker, but I’m definitely having more sessions. Nice to have back in my life again.
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PCP Rifle  SOLD FX Maverick compact .22 with Element scope, Atlas bipod & Donny fl Tatsu

Have a FX Maverick compact for sale .22caliber in excellent condition. It will come with an Atlas bipod, Donny fl Tatsu surpressor, FX adjustable scope rings. It will come with one of two scopes, either a Element 6-24x50 second focal plane or a Element 4-16x44 first focal plane scope which ever you prefer. And a couple thousand JSB Exact Diablo pellets in either 18.13 gr or15.89 gr which ever you want. Price is $1,400 and $50 shipping only to conus.

Contact Walt Neller email [email protected]

New Here!

New here and have heard a lot of good about this community.

I recently broke down after tremendous pressure from my brother (approx. 5 minutes) and joined the club. I got a 30cal FX Impact 3. I know this may have been jumping in the deep end but I have never been a fan of kiddy pools! Starting to piece everything together and optics are next on my immediate purchase list. Looking for any input you guys may have, tune advice, best slug/pellet, accessories, cool stories, favorite color! Plus I need to knock out 10 posts so I can see about getting one of those sweet brass knurled fat boy charging handles. Obligatory pic below.


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PCP Rifle  NLA Airmaks Krait X .25 cal

This is a great shooting gun. Loves jsb 34gr pellets, 26.8gr NSA slugs and 33gr varmint knockers. Those are the only slugs I’ve tried so far. Currently tuned for shooting the jsb 34gr pellets at 885-890 fps, laser accurate at 100 yards. Has been upgraded to a Huma reg, no creep issues. Only looking to trade for an impact M3 in .22 or .25 cal, may consist a mk2, or possibly a panthera/dynamic. Comes with 1 factory mag and 2 carm mags. Scope, rings and moderator not included but can be discussed depending on the trade.

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Compressors  SOLD WTS Shoebox Air Compressor for Sale - Reduced

Shoebox compressor that has been properly maintained. I re-built it last summer and have used it to top off my buddy tank. It has about 20 hours since the re-build and I just used it last week. It is set up for 4500 psi and shuts off at that point. $325.00 which includes insured shipping to CONUS, only (it’s very heavy). PayPal friends and family is preferred but I’ll also accept a money order or a check with a hold for clearance.

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Barrels  SOLD WTS FX Impact M3 .22cal 800mm SLUG barrel + tensioner kit

I have a .22cal 800mm barrel kit and tension setup. It comes with barrel housing, transfer port, , heavy superior liner 1:14 twist, CF liner sleeve, and official FX carbon fiber tension kit that has the barrel holding clamp and jam nut with 1/2" x 20 UNF threaded end.

This is like new condition and has no marks/dings even on the outside of the barrel housing. This is perfect if you want to get max power in .22cal with slugs. Can reach out to ~100fpe if paired with a Powerblock M3 w Tungsten hammer. This setup was used without a tungsten hammer tuned for 34grn slugs at 980fps (72fpe) for extremely good accuracy and still a decent shot count, but there are no signs of hard use and the barrel will be cleaned before shipping so it will be very close to a new setup.

I would like to sell it only now, I have been away/busy from the forums and financial and time constraints bring me to choose to sell this instead.

This setup would normally cost $399 new and are almost always out of stock/pre-orders needed.
Here is what it comes with, same as if bought new at Pyramyd Air or Utah Airguns.



I would let it go for $375 SHIPPED since it is like new, save some overall $, shipping cost, and wait time (usually 2 weeks or more)

I also have positive feedback on the old yellow forum BOI as well as ebay if you would like to see.
Here are some pictures (not the best) and more/specific shots can be taken upon request.
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Am I overpriced on this ?



Thanks in advance ! I’d like to move this but times have changed and I don’t if I’m priced well

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Can a PCP be more quiet than my current .22?

I have a .22 CZ rifle, heavy barrel with a Surefire suppressor (Tax stamp of course). I use Eley subsonic hollow point ammo which I find is very accurate, consistent and quiet to a point. I am using this rifle for squirrel control up to 150’, and while I’m not in a city, I have a bleeding heart neighbor who has threatened to call game and wildlife. This would constitute hunting out of season most of the year.

The semi-quiet report of my CZ still causes my neighbors dogs to go nuts and start barking, thusly alerting the neighbor. I’ve tried multiple subsonic ammo brands, and this one is the best. I have no experience with a PCP, so my basic question is can I find the right PCP setup that is quiet to the point my neighbors dogs wont go nuts? If I have the most quiet setup already, my search into PCP’s would be basically pointless.

HW/Weihrauch  HW30 - full custom

Received this HW30 yesterday. From the serial nr this rifle was produced in 2005. I am told that inside everything is done (piston/breach seals, spring, spring guide and plug). The barrel is shortened (new barrel crown, and a permanently installed silencer for improved balance).
I haven’t tested accuracy, but it cycles beautifully and the locking is tight with a distinct and crisp trigger.
And the stock- OH MY!
The man who improved this rifle is Waldemar “Hogan” Brom from Poland, a well-known person in the FT/HFT shooting community. At least he was, until health problems kicked in due to a Polish forum.

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Per Pellet Cost Comparison Spreadsheet

Hello AGN'ers!

Going through many threads on pellet cost, and doing the homework myself, I thought; "Why not just create a simple Excel spreadsheet to do the comparisons?"
So, that spreadsheet is attached and ready for your use. The only areas that you should NOT enter any information are the cells in deep red.
You can change the tax rate at the top of the sheet to match your local tax rate and it will automatically calculate your tax. If there is no tax, then you will use the dark blue cells for the calculation. (equals 0).
You simply input the information: FX / Caliber / Grains / Head-Size / Tin Quantity / Tins Needed / Freebies / Per Tin Cost / Shipping (if any).
With that information it will kick out a per pellet cost at the far right.
It also has direct links to the vendors that I normally deal with, just click on them and they go directly to the site.
I have examples throughout to make it easier to understand how it works.
Any questions, just ask. I hope that it works for you.

Mike

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