I picked up the Garmin Xero and the Athlon Rangecraft to test this week. I took it to the range and here are my thoughts.

I shot a string of 69 and both picked them up with no misses.

The difference between the two units were much closer than the YouTube video comparions I've seen. The two units were only about 4 fps off from each other.

From the unit itself, the Garmin was slightly easier to use. I think having all the buttons at the top made it a little more intuitive for me rather than the up down controls on the side of the Athlon.

When comparing the data, both have roughly the same information.

I think the Athlon screen is brighter and the text is easier to read vs. the Garmin.

In this area, they are very similar.

When I connected the APP's, they have much bigger differences.

The Garmin is very focused. It pulls in your shot strings, displays it very clearly and large and that's about all it does.



The Athlon can pull in weather data directly from the phone, wants you to add wind speed, direction and more information about your target to assist with target calculations.


The Athlon APP wants (optional) to pull in a gun profile as well as a bullet profile. I find the text on the shot data smaller than I would like.




When I looked at the app reviews, there were complaints about missing shot strings being transmitted from the unit to the app for the Athlon. I didn't confirm this as I only shot one session. The app has a rating of 2 stars.

For the Garmin, it has a rating of 3 stars. It doesn't do a whole lot. It's accurate and folks export the data to do any calculations. It doesn't pull weather or any other data about the session

I have a HW50s (the misses), and a R9 (the mistress), both in .177. I have no need for another gun, but I have a wandering eye and from time to time like to contemplate another break barrel. I have been slowly getting the hang of shooting my Hw50s, and in the winter I plan to make a new stock (Vana 2's influence) for the HW95 that will fit me and my scope better for Hunter Field Target. As I was contemplating what I might do, I took a look at the HWs on the Airgun's of Arizona website. I see that they have dressed a HW95 in an adjustable stock now (the HW95s) and it's on sale for $727. They also have the HW98 in it's adjustable stock for $780.

It seems to me that this match up is made for a comparison. The HW98 is a pound heavier, which I remember reading somewhere is meant to help stability. That may be so, but wouldn't that pound be a bit of a liability for standing shots?

With both guns in similar stocks, and very similar actions, what would you identify in your choice as swinging the difference one way or another? I'm curious what other's think. Has anyone actually got both of these yet?

This has been a project on my bench for a while. I designed it pre Helene, then came Milton. Shop had 42” of the Gulf of America in it…lost just about everything I couldn’t get up. Anyway…here goes. Aquired a nice blank, and a chunk of Ebony…drew up my design. Designed, and fabricated a mini chassis so I would have a monolithic unit to inlet…worked great!…fit, and epoxied fore end tip…created some reference surfaces..milled air tube channel, and joint bridge..inlet action, milled fore end slots, installed joint bridge…joint bridge installed…sawed off hamster, roughed trigger hole, formed grip angle, butt stock profile…sawed off cheek piece..designed, fabricated, inlet trigger guard. Turned hamster adjusting pins, pillar bedded action..fabricated, installed hamster height adjustment hardware..fabricated, inlet cheek piece adjustment hardware…fabricating butt spacer…done…installed…roughing stock thickness..working in shape…other side…a little farther along….other side..shaping butt stock profile..further along..other side…pattern routed action cheeks…hogged away waste..forming cheek piece…further along…laid out fair curve for forend..sawed it off…roughing in fore end…a little further along…flushed butt spacer…fabricated, inlet, installed front sling swivel attachment…fabricated, fit, thumb rest…final fit before finish sand…finish sanded…first coat of oil….finish done…layout for grip texture/ stippling…textured…done….. they only let you attach 40 files…guess I got carried away..sorry. Will make another post. John

I have a few guns that I am wanting to sell. They are seldom used as I have bought too many! If you want more pictures of any one, please PM me. Payment via PP F&F or Zelle. None of the scopes are include in the sale. All guns work as they should and hold air.

No Longer Available - AAA Evol 21" SubMOA .30 barrel - this gun has less than 100 pellets through it. I thought I needed one more, but it is too heavy for me to hunt with and I already have bench guns that I use that this would replace. It's really loud without the moderator! Comes with eveything AoA sent with it including the AAA moderator on it (along with the the 1/2 x 20 adapter and flash suppressor). $2200 plus exact shipping to your location.




EVOL Magnon .30 - Gun is an 9 -10 condition and has the larger plenum installed in it. It also comes with the original stock. No case included. I shoot my Paradigm .30 the most so this is another closet queen. $1400 plus the exact freight cost to your location.





Red Wolf HP .22. This is the latest version electronics with updated firmware. Condition is 9 - 10 and it comes with the battery charger, cf tank pic rail, as well as one magazine. The moderator is not included but can be added for $75. Comes in the original box. $1400 plus shiping to your location. I have an Alpha Wolf in .22 the same color that gets shot all the time...



SOLD - Kalibergun Cricket II Tactical 45 Laminated Stock .22 caliber. This gun was tuned for 18.1g JSB/JTS by Derrick Wall and is a tack driver. Condition is another 9 - 10. All 3 magazines are included. The DFL Tanto moderator can be added for $100. No case included. $$$ plus exact shipping to your location.

Sorry to have you jump from one post to another…that’s the finished product. Thank you for viewing my post. John

HP in Michigan said fx prices are going up across the board at all dealers. Supposed to be today however checked PA and UA and m4 prices still the same. Not sure how much the increase will be.

Good Morning,

I'm wondering if anyone is getting usable results from any Ballistics program to set up a FT scope wheel?

I've been using these programs on and off for years now. The only one I got usable results from was the old
Hawke Chair Gun Pro for Hawke scopes.

I'm now shooting a Sightron SIII scope. I've tried a couple of the Hawke programs as well as Strelok with poor results.
Chairgun Elite seems to be the only program that lists a reticle for the SIII. I have played with that program for many hours.
But can't get results close to my real holdovers. I have a very accurate scope height measurement as well as several measured BC inputs
at different speed/ranges. My SIII has the SIII FTIRMOA_H reticle. For example my real world holdover for 10 yards is about 4 MOA.
Chairgun Elite says its 7.1 MOA. I have to be doing something wrong but for the life of me can't figure it out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Mark

I just bought a 3d printed moderator for my beeman raider and man did that make it quiet. The only thing is it made the POI about 8 or 9 inches lower and that’s at about 15 yards. after Retro I moved to 25 yards and it’s shooting way high. Before With factory moderator it would shout staright from 15 yards out to about 40 yards. This seems crazy to me. Does anyone know what’s going on? Did I maybe buy a cheap or poorly made moderator?

Got the Vixen 2 long 0.177, very nice.
I have no other PCP to compare, bought it as I liked the look and what people shared about it.

We have power restriction to 7.5J otherwise I would bought the 0.22
Gun right now on 5.6J as I ordered abroad and wanted no custom issue, shoot nice in 40 m will try longer soon. Once back to the range. Shot about 800 pallet since I have it, very accurate. Will increase to 7.5J and over if I have license. I am shooting cherry from the tree with no miss from about 30 m in the garden.

Quality look good, shroud have some move but that only the cover, you can screw them in fully, very small move.(no issue for me at all and I think all ok, just sharing as I saw video on it) I prefer the look off shroud, so I removed. The barrel it self only 420 mm without shroud that built as a tank and strip down looks proper.

Noise no issue, I want mostly shoot in the range off shroud at 5.6j gun has not much noise, might be on higher Jule. The bullet hitting hard that have sound, and you can recognize after a while anyway.
I would not like being in my garden while hearing the pelet hitting something in the other garden so I will go to the range mostly.

I bought single shot tray from Carm, I needed it for competition. Only have the gun 5 days, and already has range membership for a year and they took me competition, where I needed the tray too , hard to single load with fingers. Applied for fac license also, about 6 -8 months to get.

Gun bit nose heavy if you want to cock with left hand and hold on the grip with right, moving cocking leaver to the right, so when you hold left, you will have no balance issue. (mentioning only as I saw in one video), the gun handling super and very happy with it.

Really like it, very easy to shoot, very accurate and looks very nice to me. Love it and would buy again, has no any issue or dislike.

I’ve read the AirgunDirect.com ”About Us” writeup and it seems decent. However, after searching AGN I’ve only found one member saying anything about this shop. If you’ve done business with this shop and you are not affiliated with them, I’d like to hear about your experience(s). Rod, I’ve read what you have to say. Anyone else? What did you order? How was the customer service? Are orders fulfilled in a timely fashion? Are items packaged well for shipping and arrive undamaged?

I thought I would have a super accurate light weight Notos with a 380mm FX barrel, And the big question is the FX barrel more accurate than the stock china barrel,,,, At 30 yards NO ! at 50 yards just a very little , Dime size groups at 30 yards and quarter size groups at 50 yards , Just about the same with the OEM stock China barrel, Its still light weight and fun to shoot, The key to the Notos is light weight , If this think weighted as much as my other guns I would just set it aside and not mess with it,, But its light.For my testing I did install a 6x24 Arken scope light scope I should say. I got a carbon fiber 300cc bottle just setting here and every one is saying the dream regulator is the best way to go for a bottle,, Not cheap but if its the best to install on my cheap as Notos , I'll look for one in the US. Hint, Hint who has got them?
This gun may become my back porch out side gun, Just leave it on the back porch so I don't have to run in a grab a PCP for the varmint's , Just thinking ,
Mike

I haven't been able to shoot in a while and im going through withdrawals lol. I would love to see what you all are shooting, if you wouldn't mind. Thanks from texas.

Safe queen, comes with mounts. Asking $1000 shipped which is a steal! Thanks for looking

I bit the bullet ordered n next week my first swaging dies should arrive. Any suggestions on the lead wire I should get?

AirMaks Arms Krait I have both .22 and .25 Factory New in Box

OE Hard case included

Upgrades, accessories and magazines available as well.

$1,583.53 USD via Zelle or add 3% for PayPal or Venmo

No sales tax ifshipped outside of CT

400mm barrel, 300cc carbon fiber tank

AirMaks Arms Krait X .22 cal Factory New in Box with Hard Case

Located in CT USA

$1,744.99

700mm barrel, 580cc carbon fiber bottle

No sales tax if shipped outside of CT

Upgrades, magazines and all other AirMaks Arms accessories on jand.

Payment by Zelle or add 3% for PayPal or Venmo


Upgrades

Daystate Pulsar
16.5g Varmint knockers @ 894 fps / 29 fpe

Was out comparing slug accuracy, shooting at 56 yards, targets were .75" circles. Both the Varmint knockers in 16.5 and the 13.43 JSB Knockouts were great, very close. Anyway, 56 yards was the furthest I have shot the Varmint Knockers since I just got them yesterday and what do you know a rabbit hops within 70 yards. This is why I usually don't take shots unless I know where they're gonna hit at a certain distance and this was first time with the varmint knockers.

I broke my rule and figured I was sighted in at 56 yards so at 70 yards should only drop about 1moa, turns out it dropped 2 which is enough to go from a clean headshot to a jaw smashing shot. I aimed at the top of his head but above his eye, should have aimed above his head but back a little, that was 2nd mistake. So had to do a follow up, aimed at top of shoulder but which also hit exactly at the 2moa hashmark just like the first shot but I couldn't see exactly where they were hitting at the time, just knew they were a little low.

The follow up shot was low but just high enough to pass thru his heart, complete pass thru.
I looked for like 10 minutes for the slug, wanted to see what the Varmint knocker looked like after passing thru but couldn't find it.

In the market for a portable shooting table. I have been looking at two in particular. The legacy shooting table and the DOA. Any input is greatly appreciated on these tables or others on the market.

Happy Shooting

Brands 0db, huggett, IA, Donny, trident. We all know what they are. So we’ll keep discussions simple. Has the newer and more expensive stuff proven itself over more budget conscious models like hugger and BRK? I don’t need DB’S readings. Just your impressions if you happen to have used these items. My interest is in 25,30 cal mostly 22 and 35 can be of interest obviously. Let’s keep it vague on details so as not to put Mike in a potential bind. Thanks folks.

Hey everyone! After watching some PCP videos online, talking with a friend who owns an FX impact, spectating at Rocky Mountain Mary gun challenge, I have found myself needing an air rifle lol. I’ve been getting into long range shooting as of late and having multiple Styles and calibers to practice fundamentals is the way to go. Looking forward to learning more and thank you for those who have already shared a ton of information on this forum!

We have a limited supply of each gun in .22 . https://www.airgunrevisions.com/product-category/bsa-gamo/

Pristene condition! Nice walnut stock. Comes from the factory with the Huma regulator and gauges for both the air cylinder and the regulator. It will come with the fill probe, original magazine, original Daystate box and paperwork. $950 plus shipping Paypal +3.5% Can do other payment methods if I know you or you have references that I know.

This is my portable target holder, not too expensive and easy to make. I made it to shoot shoot pistols at any distance but works great in my back yard for air rifle.

If you follow my YouTube channel, then you most likely already saw the finished rifle. For the rest of the gang, here she is. .22 Cal. ARH Hornet kit. You can see the entire ten part series here.

Thinking about getting some shirts made for the sport I love.