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Newbie here, looking at my first PCP

Hey everyone - another newbie here, or at least looking to be a newbie into the PCP world.

I've owned some pumps in the past (whatever could be had at Walmart or Sears). Those were mainly just for plinking.
We have a few chickens (pets really - my kids gave them names like "Hennifer Lopez") and some woods which butt up against the back of my property. I will occasionally get a rat or two who take advantage of the free chicken feed at night. I quickly found out that those .177 rifles were not really up to the task - unless I got a headshot, it would just discourage the rat for a few hours. And head shots were rare - I can watch the pellets corkscrew through the air if I pump it up enough to be able to hurt the rat. Less pumps stabilize the flight, but won't take a rat out.

I bought a Crosman Quest Nitro Piston Elite in .22 a couple of years ago to take care the rats which works out okay. I lay on top of my pool house at night and can shoot them at 15yds without too much trouble. My only real complaint is that it doesn't seem terribly accurate past 25yds (admittedly I've only ever used one brand and type of pellet in it), and it's a long rifle which makes reloading the break barrel action awkward - gotta stand up to do the whole reloading dance. I think it's 42" or 44" long.

For a scope I was usuing the one which came with it, but I picked up an ATN X-Sight 4K Pro 3-14 scope a few months ago really cheap since it was "broken". I was able to fix that but haven't really done anything besides sight it in on the air rifle.

Anyway - new rats will still find the chicken-chow every once in a while, but I've recently had a couple squirrels decided to chew on my buildings which I'll need to deal with. I can't lay on top of the pool house during the day for a couple of reasons (metal roof is too hot in the Texas sun, neighbors will think I'm more odd than they already have observed, etc). I can sit on my back porch and thin the squirrel herd out some, so I've begun to look at some PCPs which are shorter than my Crosman as well as hopefully being more accurate at 50yds. Being quiet is still pretty important since my back porch is closer to neighbor houses than the pool house is.

I've been watching a bunch of videos and reading here, and I think I'm starting to settle on the Airforce TalonSS. It is at the extreme upper end of what I'm looking to spend, but if it's a buy-once-cry-once deal then I'm okay with explaing to my wife why I have yet another hobby which isn't cheap.
Since it is mainly for pest control and some plinking, being a single shot is okay. I suspect that it will be easier and faster to reload than the Crosman so I'm already upgrading in my opinion.

I have a couple of questions for those more experienced than I...
  1. Given my needs and the requirement to be somewhat quiet, is the TalonSS a good choice for the price or is there something else comparable/less expensive that I may not have considered yet?
  2. 20, 22, or 25 caliber? It seems to me that 22 caliber is the most popular and offers the largest number of projectile choices, with 25 caliber being next.
  3. Since I'm going to be new into the PCP world, are there any other aspects which I'm overlooking due to ignorance? I know I'll need a pump of some type, and will want to try a variety of pellets to figure out what works best - anything else?
Thanks for reading and I appreciate any wisdom you may pass along!

PCP Rifle  SOLD The ULTIMATE CUSTOM NOTOS! $950 SHIPPED

This is possibly the most accurate NOTOS in the world… or at least one of them! I’m not sure I even want to sell it but I just need to pay some bills so I’m listing this up here for y’all.
This was built by Terminador Industries. It comes with both the Buck-Rail folding stock in the photos AND the stock NOTOS lower receiver that has a polished trigger.
The gun has the following upgrades (to name the most important):
FX barrel and carbon fiber barrel shroud/support/tensioner
Large Carbon Bottle (gets over 150 shots per fill!)
Dream Notos Regulator
It comes with the moderator on the photos.
the DNT scope IS NOT included.
call or text (text is best) if your interested or have questions 928-846-0437
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N/A  16 joule or 24 joule

Hi all, I’m looking to buy an air rifle. I currently live in the uk so my restriction is 16 joules. However in 6 months I will be moving to Spain which there they allow 24 joules. Should I wait to purchase a 24 joule air rifle. My intentions are to do some long range shooting. 70-80 yards. I also want to do a bit of small animal hunting. My budget is about $400 could perhaps stretch it to 550. I really liked the look of the Remington express XP but I read that it has a short range and isn’t very accurate. Please let me know and feel absolutely free to send me some suggestions for rifles. Thanks and happy new year!

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FX  Are expensive PCPs worth it?

Are highend guns worth it?

  • Yes.

  • Yes, but only for competition shooting.

  • Yes, but 2k is too much.

  • No.

  • No, but they are nice to have.

  • Never had a gun cost over a grand.


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I've been looking at .30 cal to take down some of the yote population I hunt at along with other pests (groundhogs mostly). And I'm really on the fence about what gun to get. I'm really thinking of getting an FX Maverick VP, seems to fill in everything I would want. Short, great aftermarket support, slug shooter, isn't super heavy, accurate (from what I heard), and more then enough power for me. But the price is a lot to take. I'm really worried about buyer remorse.

I've had 3 PCP rifles now, all under a grand (Avenge-X, Notos, and an AEA Element Max). And I have been happy with them. Are +1k guns really worth it? For that matter are +2k guns worth it? You guys/gals that bought these higher end guns, do you feel you got your money worth?

PCP Rifle  SOLD Umarex Notos .22 Ready To Go. Complete Package.

This was a brand new gun that I added the accessories to and it has just been function fired since completion. I have about $675.00 invested in the gun. Nice small light package only selling to whittle down the collection a bit.

The Airgun has the following:

Buck Rail grip adapter.
Plenum and barrel conversion kit
UTG 3-9 Bugbuster scope with rings
Caldwell bipod
Folding stock adapter
Bravo 3D forend with bottom rail
Extra factory magazine

Factory box and grip Along with original magazine and fill probe included.

$500.00 shipped and insured to the lower 48 only. No trades wanted. PPFF preferred or please add the fee for regular PP.
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N/A  Please show me pictures of your bottle clamps with picatinny rail on the bottom for the bipod.

Hi Friends

i have a fx dreamline lite with a tuxing 700cc carbon bottle (diameter 61.5mm)

i am unable to find any rail extensions for my dreamlite- the one on the bottom next to the trigger guard- i want to extend the small rail to mount the bipod further out but there is nothing out there except for impacts..

so i will have to go off my bottle- its long, 700cc.. just a standard tuxing carbon bottle from amazon.. i like to put something pretty on it- something that fits my likings..

i know everyone has different taste so go ahead and show me which bottle clamp with picatinny rail you got on your airgun.. and maybe tell me where you bought it..

edit: maybe i could just buy this metal clamp 60mm and weld a piece of picatinny rail onto it? if the picatinny rail is metal and weldable then it should not be any problem, right?

edit2: ok- i found plenty of steel picatinny rails so i will be able to weld it (just few point welds, little ones) to the metal clamps and set it on my 700cc bottle all the way in front... and i think i will get 2 clamps for better stability.

what you guys think?

thanks

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Tethered at the bench

That is the way i always shoot.
So i just got to thinking, i dont really need a air tank on my rifle, but i would instead take a proper length lower rail instead and pay the same for the rifle.

Here i have modified a RTI Mora in paint with a lower rail to demonstrate.
I also imagine a connector adaptor that would screw on where bottle would so you can still use #1 regulator, or you can connect at foster using a inline regulator.

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I would buy that ⬆️ Mora as soon as it was possible

I also wonder why no brand have this option, after all a lot of people shoot tethered at the bench, and of course if the need arise we could just remove rail and put on one of the bottles we already have.
And so probably no money saved, but airgunners of the world empowered with more choice.

Have any of you bought, or considered buying, a gun out of the classifieds just because it was local?

I browse the classifieds very frequently and will admit that location plays a roll when I decide to purchase anything. I feel like I’m much, much more tempted to buy something I’m only mildly interested in if I’m able to buy it in person. For instance, I wasn’t even shopping for a new gun and stumbled across a Daystate Ranger(?) that was listed by zx10wall that really got me going. Now this isn’t a gun I would have been shopping for, but as soon as I saw the seller, I started paying attention. Not only is Derrick well known here, but he also lives in a town that almost borders the one I live in, and that carries weight. I clicked away from that ad but it was with mild reluctance. The next time I logged on, I almost immediately searched out the ad, saved a picture he posted in it, and with more than mild reluctance this time, moved on without sending him a PM. Less than 24 hours later I’d convinced myself that if he still had it, I’d message him and see if selling locally meant as much to him as buying locally does to me. By this time though, that beauty of gun was listed as sold. Three days later I’m still not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing.
Some time back (last year maybe?) in a thread about Forum suggestions, I may or may not have suggested that sellers should at least list a state in their ad title when posting in the classified section. As I sit here thinking about how close I came to potentially buying a gun that I didn’t care the least about or even know existed several days ago, I realize how dangerous that is. So sellers, please for the love of God, if you live in Texas, DO NOT put your state in your ad title. ESPECIALLY if you live east of Austin and, oh, let’s say south of maybe Dallas, JUST DON’T DO IT.
Thanks in advance.

Larger capacity bottle for RAW HM1000x

Hi,
I'm looking to replace my stock bottle with something larger. Could someone make a recommendation? Will I have to purchase an adapter?

I know that Bagnall and Kirkwood in the UK have a variety of bottles available, but they wouldn't help with a recommendation. I think it's a liability issue, not a lack of good customer support.

Geneeus

Epic  Regulator issue.

I purchased the Epic Two with a Huma raptor already installed. The shot consistency was wild to say the least so I ordered a repair kit for the regulator and waited for it to arrive before digging in. The little plastic disc was installed upside down so I replaced all the o-rings, cleaned everything up and made sure all passages were clear and reinstalled the reg with the disc the right direction hoping that was the issue. Well the shot string aren't as wild but I noticed that the refresh rate was way too long so I decided to time them using the digital gauge I installed.
Over a 50 shot string, the refresh rate starts at 12 seconds and finished over 2 minutes to refresh to set pressure as the psi diminishes in the main tube.
From a 300 bar until approaching the reg setting of 125 bar I timed the shots refresh times get longer and longer as the pressure in the tube dropped.
I took the regulator apart just to see if anything else could have been missed and couldn't. Cleaned, silicone and back together to have the same issue.
Huma has been contacted but is wanting to direct me to the vendor since they installed it but it has to be this regulator in my opinion.
Any experts out there have a clue what the issue with refresh time?
It doesn't seem to creep past the set pressure but as I shoot it just takes a very long time and if out shooting I would just have to time my shots and be there all day long to get anything done.

PCP Rifle  NLA M4 .177 & .22 standard

Really only interested in brk ghost or evol, RTI mora. Completely stratified with gun just checking the market out. All the wrap and covers can come off. Just want to protect the tool!
Daystate brk or redwolf only trade offers interested in but no HP please. Comes with .177 kit 1 mag and .22 kit 2 mags. $2100
Never shot .22 yet and about 6 mags through.177. Got to cold to hunt now so this has to go.

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Pyramyd AIR After XMAS and Final Closeout Sales!!

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Tip for installing o-rings onto threaded objects

When recently installing a new bottle o-ring on my RAW HM1000x, I was concerned about damaging the o-ring when rolling over the sharp threads.

I used an old Harley Davidson trick of applying a couple of wraps of Teflon sealing tape over the threads. Lightly lubed the o-ring and slid it on. Works just fine.

FX  Happy New Year and New Panthera coming soon

New guy on the forum here. Excited for my new panthera that should be shipped later this week. I modeled my build and accessories after this guy on youtube. He seemed to know what he was talking about with a lot of no nonsense info and remarkable accuracy in another of his videos. I chose to spend my money on a 30 cal Panthera 700 instead of the 6.5 creedmore AR I’ve been wanting because I can shoot it in the neighborhood whenever I have a few hours to spare. I will primarily shoot benchrest out to 300yds. I’ll send pics when it arrives. The creedmore will be next on my list. Happy New Year 🍺

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