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What power scope? Athlon

Well I've been poking around for a scope that will focus down less than 50yds. Came across the Athlon Neos. Been wondering heavily on ordering one as it would be a Christmas gift so therefore I would have to wait to actually get to use it. So the question is, has anyone gotten the 4-12x and wish they had gotten the 6-18 or vise versa?
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Ebr results and guns

Just found this on the ham forum they listed results and guns used for ebr

Air Venturi  Avenge-X PCP Tuning Guide, AEAC Pre-video Learning

Hang on tight because Steve over at AEAC has begun eXploring the all new Air Venturi AvengeX! And you guessed it... we're celebrating this awesome new platform with an RDW (Review-Discuss-WIN)!

Here's a few pics to get started 🤤

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Leave your questions or comments below and Steve will try to answer them the best he can!

MAJOR UPDATE on PAGE 5!

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Airgun Technologies  .30 caliber guns

Hey guys I’m new to the air gun world have a couple of good guns already but now am looking for a solid gun for coyotes down to opossums I’m a hunter not competition I’ve looked at American air arms evol .30 ,agt Vulcan .30 ,and western air rattler .30 any input they’re all expensive would like to make the right choice

Thank you airgunners

I'm really a "nobody" when it comes to the competition circuit of airgunning but I just wanted to say thank you everyone..

I never hesitate to give my number out to people, email, etc. I may keep myself so incredibly busy all the time and I do get scatter brained but I do my best to help out all you fellow airhead pew lovers. I've been through everything airgunning , beginner pcp, to full blown competitions with shooters from other parts of the world, to pesting for farmers.

I love chatting with you all but most I love when I can help. I love being able to say man, if you need that special tool mine can be in the mail tomorrow.

I love getting texts like this, phone calls saying thank you so much, mention on the forums saying "talk to ctairgunner, he can give some insight".

This hobby has its drama like every part of the human world does but overall it's been the most rewarding hobby I've been a part of. Thank you guys just as much as you've thanked me. I've learned a ton over the last 2 years airgunning.

#airgunning #airgunnation #pcphunter #fxairguns #daystateairguns #americanairarms

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What is considered a safe distance downrange?

I would love to know others’ opinions on safe downrange distances on airgun ranges. How much hay and pastureland should be considered unsafe beyond the last targets’ backstop…should any pellets (no slugs used) escape over the backstop?

180 yards of my range are on my property; with targets with backstops at 20 to 150 yards. Beyond the 150 yard backstop are 30 more yards of my property, and then about 300 more yards of pastureland only; then finally, barns and homes at a total range of 500+ yards from shooting bench.

I mostly shoot springers and PCPs under 22 ft.lbs., with pellets only. 99.9% of rounds shot are caught in wood backstops, or contact/skip off of ground when shooting cans at under 60 yards. Yet, the wild shot gone high, or the skipper off the ground, might obviously go into adjacent 300 yard wide pasture starting at 180+ yards from the shooting bench.

The maximum retained energy, should a round be shot at a very high angle to reach buildings at 500 yards, would be 0.9 ft.lbs. (according to Chairgun app). And I really doubt that even that much energy could be retained by a tumbling and unstable pellet at that distance.

What would you consider reasonably safe under these circumstances?
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Brand new to PCP rifles - take it easy please😁

So...I just spent a few days at the Whittington Center in Raton New Mexico - then hunted Pronghorn Antelope nearby.

While at the Whit. Ctr. - I was shown an Avenger air rifle, and compressor...long story short - it came home along with my antelope...:)

I am anxious to learn about air rifles, target and hunting. I am active in centerfire shooting and a member of a range in South Carolina that we can shoot out to 1000 yds. everyday and 1 mile certain days.

Look forward to learning from you all!
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Diana  Need information about PCP hand pump

Hello everyone
I just got my first PCP gun "Diana BANDIT" I really like it but it's a little louder than my co2 chaser but much more power
But now here's come filling the gun
I am really on tight budget so I discovered there's hand pump for PCP
I am start looking here and there so I found Chinese pump that cost around $40-$60
And branded pumps cost over $150 to more than $300
I also read about 4 stage 3 stage
But I came across to one of cons of PCP hand pump is that since they contain oil and water sometimes the pump will create moisture and it may leak with air and get inside the gun
Okay is there any way to avoid this? I mean my bandit is small tank only 50cc and I saw YouTube video he fill his pp800 ( bandit same gun) only 24 pump to fill from 100 to 200bar
So what causes of leak water from the hand pump?
Or suggest me PCP hand pump for under $100 and with acceptable quality or at least fill my gun 150 times (24×150 times=3600 pumps 🙂)

Optics  SOLD Like new Arken EP5 MIL Purchased on 10/4/2023 for sale $335 shipped

Just bought this from High Pressure Pneumatics on 10/4/2023, nothing wrong with the scope, its just not for me, looking to get another Valdada for my .257 texan setup.

Comes with box, rubber cover, manual, and throw lever , I just paid $565 plus shipping with the throw lever.

I do have either the custom cerakoted fde element acculite rings or a set of eaglevision 34mm rings that can be added for additional cost.

I will do $335 shipped east of the mississippi or $350 west, save yourself over $100 on it , my loss, your gain. Feedbacks impeccable.

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Results  Ultimate Field Target at Phoenix Rod and Gun Club 10/05/23 Match Report

17 pellet shooters and 6 slug contenders combined for a total turn-out of 23 shooters for the night match on October 5th. We had contestants from as far away as Florida. The match started at dark and the weather was perfect, temps around 90 degrees with minimal wind to fight.

A lot of well-known industry players and elite shooters. I enjoyed getting to know a bunch of them and just talking generally talking airguns.
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The prize and raffle pool totaled out to over $2500 and is the biggest we've seen for a long range/higher power field target match at Phoenix Rod and Gun Club. We've got many very generous sponsors to thank for that.
Sponsors include...
  • Utah Airguns
  • Element Optics
  • DonnyFL/Saber Tactical
  • Texasfieldtarget.com
  • S&S Targets
  • JD’s Custom Designs
  • Captain O-Ring
  • Stud Loader
So many awesome raffle and door prizes and prize packages that I couldn't even keep track. A few of the standouts were DonnyFL/Saber Tactical sponsoring first place pellet class with a $500 prize, Element Optics supplying a Titan 5-25x56 scope, and Utah Airguns donating prize money and guns and bipods, etc. The plaques were made and donated by Dan F.

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Here's a look at the course from the service road up above, pardon the blurry image, but I'm including this because it gives a sense of the unique atmosphere of shooting in the dark. The pinpoints of light strewn across the desert are each a target or a lane/trail marker.

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Field Target is such a challenge because no sighters are allowed. A shooter has to know and understand the trajectory of their chosen projectile and how to account for changes in elevation and wind speed and direction. A shooter has essentially got to know their equipment well enough to have a pretty dang good idea of where the pellet or slug (accounting for distance and wind) is going to go prior to even taking the shot. They have to be able to repeatedly attain a stable position, moving from lane to lane, seated on a stool or bucket and using sticks/bipod. And all of that is on a timer, 4 shots in 4 minutes. For some the 4 minutes is more than enough, others would have liked more time I think. Lots of things to mentally assess and process in a limited amount of time to do it. Shooters that can pull that all together for a winning score definitely earn their points.

This was the course layout for the match, but doesn't fully represent all the intricacies of what shooters dealt with. There are elevation changes from target to target, as well as geological features that funnel wind in strange ways.

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Those new to field target may be unfamiliar with the term "Troyer" in the above data table. Brad Troyer created a difficulty factor for sub 20fpe field target 20+ years ago. I consulted with him a few years ago and extrapolated his chart (that stopped at 55 yards) out to 100 yards, using bigger kill zones. The Troyer Factor is essentially the distance in yards divided by the size of the kill zones, in inches. However, a few difficulty factors are applied for further distances, as well as for standing shots or windy conditions. Those interested can find more info here: https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/extreme-troyer-factor.868700/

The Ultimate FT course on 10/05 had an overall Troyer of 41.35. That makes it one of the harder courses that Ben has set for us in the last 24 or so months. So, if you didn't do as well as you'd have liked, be comforted in the fact that this was a rather difficult course.

The following data table shows equipment lists as well as how each shooter did. The columns to the far right show performance on some notable lanes: the standing bipod lane, as well as the three hardest targets (highest Troyer #) of the course. I included the far on Lane 10 b/c the wind seemed the most tricky there for me and I was curious if anyone else struggled on it like I did.
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Since we've been doing slug and pellet classes for the last few years here it has been interesting to compare scores. Typically there isn't as large of a difference between them as one would expect, but for this night match we had the one and only Thayne Simmons. I held the previous slug record at one of these matches, a 36/40. Thayne took care of that quite nicely. Thayne now holds the record for slug and overall high scores, also prevented Steve M from being the new slug and overall high score record holder with his 37/40. In the pellet class, Van Tucker was up ahead of the rest of the pellet shooters by a cool 3 points. Great shooting Thayne and Van, and on a VERY hard course (relative to past matches).

High score pellet and High score slug (Van and Thayne).
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I believe pellet class paid out 5 spots and slug paid out three, but there were so many gift cards and raffle prizes and door prizes that I had a hard time keeping track of who ended up with what. Again, thanks to VERY generous sponsors.

Here are the rest of the top placing shooters.
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Thank you to all of the competitors. We're glad you came and hope you had fun and return to shoot in the future. We've joked for a couple years now about how this high power/long range game of field target is the most fun somebody can have, while simultaneously being extremely frustrated, makes a shooter want to come back and do better next time. Thanks to Ben and his crew (Scott H, Stephen K. Mike S, Dan J, etc etc etc) for putting in all the behind the scenes work, setting the course, managing lights and painting targets and etc. And finally, thanks to Phoenix Rod and Gun Club for hosting us and sharing your range.

Hope to see you all at future matches.

(there was also an Oct 7th match, very similar to the above, I'll get the data compiled for that and post another match report in the next day or two).

GX CS2 On Sale- is it worth it?

Hey guys see link :

I have Prime and they have a 20% sale for $280.

I have taken things like this apart before (Nitro piston r/c trucks and actual cars) so I don't fear maintenance etc.

All I have is a bottle converted Avenger (~360cc ) and a Notos with plenum to fill. I don't really want a Yong Heng because it needs all that water hose stuff and I know the CS2 is only for filling the gun directly not buddy bottles so I figured should be good choice.

Just wanting to know if that's the deal I should be looking for and jump on it???

Tuning  Tuning the RAW HM1000x is not convenient

Update.

I love the trigger and feel of the RAW HM1000x. By setting either the OEM or Huma regulator beyond the max targeted pressure using adapters from HUMA, I’m able to connect my tethered tank with an external dual air regulator to the gun and control the supplied air pressure. With adjustments of air pressure and hammer spring settings I’ll check ballistic data and precision using my LabRadar chronograph.

Tuning is not as convenient as an FX Impact, FX Panthera or the pending Epic 2 air rifle, but I have a great shooting pellet rifle, so if I can find a slug or two that shots well I’m going to call it a day.

My next air rifle will be for slugs along the lines of the FX Panthera, Epic 2, but curious what is hinted at as forthcoming from BRK with their Ghost gun for slugs.

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Tuning a RAW HM1000x is not very convenient, especially for myself who lacks patience. My interest in determining which slugs and tune if any work well for my .30 caliber HM1000x is going to require lots of trial and error.

My RAW requires the main air bottle to be removed and the action block depressurized to adjust the regulator. However, you won’t know how much of an adjustment you’ve made, just the adjustment direction until you put a gauge into the action. This however, is not convenient and can’t be done with the action in the stock.

Knowing small changes in air pressure and hammer spring tension can have a significant impact on precision and performance and I wanted an easier way to try different air pressure and hammer spring tensions quickly. Contacting HUMA and using my external dual air regulator and adapters I’m going to remove the air bottle, open the regulator all the way and control the air pressure to the gun (action) via the dual air regulator connected to my 97 cubic foot external tank. This will allow pressure changes and hammer spring settings to be made quickly and easily while the action is fitted in the stock and the gathering of slug or pellet ballistic and precision data.

This will allow me to see how much pressure I’m delivering to the gun and noting my hammer spring settings while monitoring velocity and precision using a LabRadar. This will allow me to know when additional hammer spring tension has plateaued and to slightly lower the hammer spring tension.

Due to the limited plenum size of the RAW HM1000x, it is likely going to be necessary to increase the air pressure which may require a heavier hammer, time will tell. I’m not sure if the 2022 RAW barrels are choked or not and if they lend themselves to shooting slugs of varying weights well enough, the motivation behind this adventure. I suspect very higher pressures will be less efficient which if acceptable slug performance can be obtained is an acceptable tradeoff for me.

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Congratulations to Irwin Segerman

Congratulations to Irwin Segermen for winning the EBR 50y Benchrest event with an impressive lead of 11 points over his closest competitor. Irwin is no stranger to the podium and this is his second time at the top at the EBR….along with being a two time pellet class N50 National champion.

I would like to say thank you, on behalf of Thomas Air, to Irwin for being a good friend and for choosing our rifles to compete in these events. It means a lot.

Mike

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FX  Impact M3 Reassembly Help

So I had to perform a complete teardown of my M3 because I got water in it from a bad water separator. Anyways, there is a socket head screw right under the lip of the reg #1 pressure gauge. It's in the 10:30 position under the lip if the gauge and is a M3 x 6mm socket head. According to the parts diagram there is a o-ring and a 1mm plastic washer. I swear I never saw a 1mm washer when I pulled the screw but it's likely I lost it. So I have some questions:

1) Is that washer just a spacer to keep the o-ring spaced off of the air hole at the bottom of the slot? I know that hole cannot be blocked because I screwed the M3 screw down somewhat tight, without the plastic washer, and the o-ring sealed the hole and my reg #1 gauge wouldn't read a pressure.
2) I noticed on my other M3 that the screw top sits flush with the surface. In that position is the plastic washer bottomed out and the screw head and washer squeezing the oring to create a seal?

So I'm hoping somebody had some experience with this area before I pull the screw on my other gun, tear the o-ring, and put that gun out of commission too.

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