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Worst First Hunt of a Season For Me

I took some time to finally push myself get out and squirrel hunt. Work has been something else this past quarter. My day started early, but I went out late this morning around 9:30am, nice and cool weather 47-50F. I visited one of my regular spots, saw about 4 squirrels, but only had a decent shot opportunity on one of them. Shot twice and missed both times from about 25-30 yards. I was fine with that. I don’t think it knew it was being shot at, but it didn’t stick around to see what would happen after the second miss. This gray squirrel descended the tree and hightailed it out of sight on the forest floor. It was nice to get out and be around the animals again. I took the latter part of the morning to just sit in the woods and take it all in. It’s was a bit windy today so it was hard to hear much movement. I got busted by a squirrel that I never saw and a deer whose tail I caught in the air as it wheezed and ran. Both had to spot me from 40-60 yards away.

Later after returning home, I ran some errands and got back out in the woods around 5:30ish. It probably took me about 35-40 mins to slow walk and work my way into the woods around the vines, dead leaves, fallen branches, and underbrush. I heard a squirrel try to bust me, but there were too many branches or vines between us for it to be certain that it saw a threat - this is my best estimation of what it was thinking. I also had the sun to my back, so how much could it really see? I stopped, remained somewhat still, and waited it out. When it shut up, I slowly worked my way into the woods a little deeper. I saw some ground that had fewer fallen leaves and branches with decent plant cover to help me blend in so I worked my way into that area. Half of the time during my advance I’m hearing acorns and branches falling and I can’t tell which ones are from the wind, birds, or squirrels. About 30 mins in and after waiting out the barker, I begin hearing the squirrels stir in the trees. Now I’m getting anxious to get into position. There aren’t many openings in the canopy and foliage to take semi-clear shots much longer than about 40 yards. I don’t want to take any long shots because today I dusted off the Prod loaded with 14.3 grain CPHPs. When I finally get into position, I kneel down in the underbrush, spread the legs of my bipod, and lower it so that I can try to maximize my rest for gratuitous angular range. I’m still keyed in on the area that the barker seemed to have been in. Finally, I start seeing movement in a tall, but slim pine tree. I see it sitting on its haunches and put my 3-12x44 FFP Vector Veyron’s crosshairs towards its ear and press the trigger. *shhh-click.* That’s all you hear from the Prod with the Donny FL Tanto affixed. I hit a branch and the squirrel scrambles then runs, propels itself through the air, and into an adjacent oak. I track him and once he pauses I aim for his head and send another hollow tipped diabolo, *shhh-click*………….💥 thwack💥. He falls forward and appears to get stuck between smaller branches below, then falls and swings about a half of a head lower, hanging off a branch by a hind foot. I debated taking a follow up shot, while I’m weighing my next move, it lets go and tumbles to the earth.

I still hear movement in a couple other areas, but I’m listening to see if I can hear the squirrel I just shot. I heard a brief rustle, then nothing. I start to go retrieve it then I stop and turn right, then I look left thinking I should go get it now, but there’s a squirrel going nuts in a tree to my right. So I made a mental note where the first one fell and stalked around a couple trees so I could see what the other one was doing. Turns out that it was weaving through some vines that had grown up into the tree. I couldn’t tell if it was eating , building a dray, or what. What I do know is that I’m gonna cook him if he sits still long enough. My opportunity comes as it jumps through the tangles of vines and down the tree trunk a bit. The rodent paused then hopped to a branch. It stopped and stretched out its torso and neck as if investigating something on the next branch before stepping onto said branch. Good for me, bad for him. When he paused a second too long, I sent one that dropped him like a ping pong ball falling through the peg board on one of those old county-fair games. When it hit the ground I stand up and look over towards the first squirrel I shot. Then I went to search for the second one. When I got toward the base of the tree I could see a mess of vines growing between the two closest trees, up into, and around them. I’m using my bipod as a brush guard and to move vines and long grass around to find my downed quarry. With the moderator affixed the Prod feels pretty long with an AR styled folding stock hanging off of a single point sling. As I stoop to manueaver through the vines my sleeves and pants legs are getting snagged by green briars. One wraps high around my ankle above my boot. I twist and try to untangle myself, but the briar vine is wrapped around my ankle and is tightening. I bend down to grab it and unwrap it and I feel my moderator in the leaves and dirt. I have no way to prevent this from happening. I manage to work myself free using my bipod and gun as brush guards. I circle the two trees, but these vines are a mess. I’m not seeing this squirrel. The sun is now lowering on the horizon and I’m losing light quickly. I decide to retrieve the first one and come back to this one since I have to pass the second squirrel to exit the woods.

I found the first squirrel shot in the head, still breathing. Smh. So I put one in the back of its head. Something told me to get that one first. It convulses violently for about 15 seconds, then gave two weak kicks with its rear right leg just before it took its final breath. I pulled a shopping bag from my pocket to tote it. He was bleeding badly from the head.

I walk over to the vines that are growing into a thicket at the base of these other trees to search for #2. I enter the tangled mess once again. This time the bag I’m holding is getting tangled up in the thorns. I untangle it, get the vines off my sleeve, and hang the bag on a broken branch. One corner of the bag is somewhat shredded and the bushy tail pokes out slightly. I take my cellphone out of my pocket, turn on the flashlight, and try to illuminate as much ground as I can. I squat down to direct the beam of light on the earth and into the underbrush, but nothing. After getting tangled up a couple more times, exiting the briars, walking CCW around the trees a little and entering the briars again. My sense of direction is all the way off. I can’t find this squirrel, don’t see any blood, and the sun is of little assistance at this point. I start lifting up tangled masses of briars with my bipod legs, still I see nothing squirrly. After about 10-15 minutes of this I had to call it quits, so I go back for my bagged squirrel that I hung up and now I can’t find that tree. By this time I’m getting hung up in small vines that I can’t even see. I’m getting hit in the face, poked around the eye, and have thorns scratching my legs through my pants. Eventually I abandoned my search and made my way towards the faint purple horizon using my phone’s flashlight so I could find the path leading out of the woods.

This had to be one of my worst experiences squirrel hunting. The other happened in proximity to the area this incident occurred, but last season. This wooded area is a challenge because it forces you to be stealth just be able to eyeball the squirrels. The foliage is such a mess in places you will have to thread the needle on some shots, pass, or miss and hit vines and branches. I hadn’t thought about it until I typed this, but it’s one of my most challenging squirrel hunting spots. I came home empty handed leaving my meat in the woods. At least I know they didn’t run off, but this sucks. Evening hunts in low light on small critters now present new challenges to me that I can no longer deny. This is me venting. If you read this whole thing, good on you. I don’t expect many people to finish reading this.

Here’s the first squirrel after the coup de gras before bagging him.
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PCP Rifle  NLA Air Arms S-500

S-500 2020 mfg date. .22 cal, Has Rowan manual magazine and spare, Anthony Story LDC. Awesome shooting gun out to 115 yds ( farthest I have shot ) with JSB 18.1 gr for 30 fpe, one notch down from full power.
I love this gun but have too many. One mark on butstock I can find ( pictured ) other than that imaculant. Scope not included for 850.00 plus shipping to lower attached 48. Can work with shipping.
Gun is solid/ quiet /accurate/ reliable/ no leaks.
More pictures on request.
Chuck

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N/A  Could use some help on deciding which pcp

I am wanting to get into the pcp game. Most of my experience with air guns has been with springers. My favorite to date is a Beeman R1 in .22 which has been tuned by Paul Watts.
I am wanting to up my game and get something flatter shooting.
There are so many good pcp guns out there that it’s hard to decide which one to get.
I am looking for something that shoots accurately to 100 yards or more. I will use it for hunting birds and small varmints. Nothing bigger than possibly a raccoon off my deer feeder. With that said, it will mostly be shot at targets for fun. I live on 30 acres, so I have the room to shoot longer distances without worrying about it being “back yard friendly”.
I don’t want (at least for now) anything that requires constant tuning. I think I want something that can shoot pellets and slugs, but probably will stick to whatever the gun shoots the best with.
I had thought that I had narrowed my search down to the Uragan 2 in .22. Then I found out today that Taipan now makes a forward side lever model in the veteran and tactical model.
I will be purchasing a compressor as well.
Can you experts help a newbie to the pcp game make a decision on which route to go?

I was Flamed!

In a previous post I was PM'd by a AGN member and accused of not respecting America because of the lower case "A" in Aoa. That lower Case "A" should have been cap'd but for Arizona not America. The Subject Line I couldn't change but I edited the rest to AoA. It's Air guns of Arizona not America. To those of you from Arizona I apologize. Was this error enough to chastise me? Bill

My first attempt

Hello amigos of AGN.

In one month i have my first attempt in FT with my hw98 springer .
I’m a springer shooter more than a pcp, but I’m new in this discipline, please let me your comments about how can I prepare my setup for the competition, I mean mark on side wheel, zero in my scope etc

Thanks for advance

JSB 18.13 pellet at 950 fps for best accuracy?

After reading this Hard Air Magazine article The External Ballistics Of Diabolo Pellets and watching this Ted Holdover YouTube video Pushing the Velocity of .22 Pellets I'm wondering if we should be testing the .22 JSB 18.13 pellet in the 950 to 960 fps range for maximum accuracy at 50 or even 100 yards?

I've been shooting firearms all my life, but other than shooting BB and pellet guns as a kid, I've only been shooting airguns seriously for about 2 years. And when I got started with airguns, I fell into the 880 fps crowd for the .22 18.13 pellet pretty quickly, as that seemed to be the consensus velocity I kept reading about.

So, is 880 fps really the sweet spot for the .22 JSB 18.13 pellet at 50 or even 100 yards?

Theoben  Theoben Eliminator with Laminate Stock

Many years ago I came across an article which was comparing the Eliminator and the Crusader. In that article the Eliminator was sporting a beautiful laminate stock. From that moment, the chase was on!!!
I put out advertisements in all the forums wanting to buy one in this configuration. No luck or even a single response. I searched everywhere....even tried England....zilch!
Then a couple of months ago while passively mentioning this plight to my fellow Theoben enthusiast Russ, I finally hit pay dirt. Russ knew of a fellow who had recently acquired this oh so rare commodity.
I immediately went to work and was able to secure not one but two of these beauties. I had my .22 Eliminator mounted in one and am happy to show it to all who can appreciate this fine rifle.
This is the culmination of over a decade worth of searching the world for this stock. I only wish that the pictures were better. But anyway....enjoy!!!

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PCP Rifle  WTS ORIGINAL TAIPAN VETERAN LONG

Own an original Taipan veteran long in .25 caliber . Rifle is in excellent condition, with no scratches/damage of any kind . Tuned and Shoots excellent with jsb 25.39g pellets , as seen in The video link attached. Price for rifle only is $1,300. I will pay half of priority shipping to the lower 48 . PayPal friends/family .Thanks.
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Benjamin  My Benjamin Prod by Airgun Revisions

A little backstory here, I just got into airgunning 2-2.5 years ago, started with an Umarex Hammer and a Hatsan Flashpup QE with amazon no name 50 dollar scopes. I had no idea what I was doing (any time I had been shooting previously with PB I only shot with Iron sights or Acog) , I didn't understand ballistics, or have real expectations of what these rifles could do... nor what they won't do.

SO I cycled my way through almost every manufacturer and ammo type... I have learned so much from the community to the point now where I am shooting competitions and printing sub moa groups at 100 yards all day long, every time I go out.

So I started cycling through airguns I owned , why I got rid of them, and did I have fun with them?

My first Airgun Revisions Prod built by Rich made its way to a friend of mine and I missed it so I contacted him 3-4 weeks ago and asked him to build me another, well he sent me these photos this weekend and it should be in my hands this week.

I can't wait to get out and plink with this as I know the work Rich does is quality and I know how fun my previous one was over a year and a half ago.

The work done was , stock obviously, his tuning, and a moderator adapter. I plan on running my Vector Optics 4-16 on it as it is light and clear as well as one of DonnyFL new suppressors the Ryu.


Anyways, feast your eyes on this beauty.



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FedEx just teased me!

I purchased a rather expensive accessory from Utah Airguns. It was shipped via FedEx and required an adult signature. I received a notification that it was out for delivery today. Our dog goes berserk whenever he hears a delivery truck, so when he began to bark I pulled up our security cameras and waited for the FedEx driver to come to our door.

After 5 minutes of rummaging around in his truck, he backed out of the driveway and left without delivering anything!

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Hope they locate the package and make another delivery attempt :unsure:

Talk to me about ranging in dark conditions

Hey all,
I would really prefer some actual first hand experience here, not some you heard this or that.
Apparently I'm having issues ranging in the darker conditions. I get a nice and clear target but its at a closer distance than when its lighter out.
Is this a common thing? Is this a lower quality of glass thing?
I am using an Athlon Argos Gen2 6-24.
I feel like I need to do my own test here of a known distance in dark conditions and light conditions and see what I get. I wasn't aware of any issues like this but I was also fighting accuracy issues all year. Now those are gone, I'm seeing I'm having some ranging issues. At the sight in range I felt like all of my ranges checked out and were spot on.
So, does anyone have concrete first hand experience with this and what was your findings and solution? Was there a certain type of scope, or feature of a scope that helped this?
Im not able to just start buying $500-1500 scopes to test. Its hard enough to get another scope, especially this time of year. Before I make that jump if I have to, I would love some real world input.
Appreciate your time.

Help needed on information on this rifle.

Hello, i joined to try to help my Marine Corps buddy whose father recently passed leaving him with a couple of air rifles. He is now looking to try to sell them and turned to me to help him with it as I’m pretty familiar with modern firearms. However, I am definitely out of my element when it comes to air rifles. From what I can gather, he has, what I believe to be a custom Gunwerks .50 cal air rifle. Any help with cost/ where we can find more information or best place to try to find a buyer would be greatly appreciated. I attached some photos of it. I’m waiting for him to find the order form it came with.

Thanks in advance.

The Airgun Experience!

Today’s podcast or video cast if you watch on YouTube is discussing the American Airgunner Challenge. Love the show and these podcasts. It’s like listening to a good audio book and an easy way to pass 30 min on the ride to work or while working at your desk.

Nina Rogers | The Airgun Experience Podcast

Other  A pricey target

My wife gave me a cookie tray to shoot. So I painted a few dots and quickly filled with holes. Got the idea to cut in half.
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I opened it up with killer my HW90 .25 cal. Accurate and destructive. Once I opened the Center I brought out the R9 .20. Hammering the folded edges. I fired a whole tin of JSB 13.73’s. Brought in a Diana 48 .22 for about 50 rounds. Managed to open left side.
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This took over the course of two days. Finally finished off with R9.
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Cost 1 1/2 tins of lead = $45.00. Now garbage but a serious challenge. Crow

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