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Beating the Ballistic Coefficient horse to death

I'm using Strelok used their numbers for JSB 33.95gr, .25's and...it's off a MILE. I finally got off my butt and put a target out to 70 yards, zeroed, then worked up to 100 yards, total ws 11.3moa. Started plugging in different BC's using GA function and I wind up with a BC of something between .0199 and .022, depending on the desktop version and the iPhone app but close enough. So, my question is what am I missing. Oh forgot the numbers worked exactly the same for 2 different guns. Well it seems that the numbers aren't reality, dropped down to 30 yards and the actual MOA drop was half of what the app said.

FX  Barrel liner?

Question for those who shoot FX airguns:
For cal. Which Barrel liner do you believe has a history of being the most accurate over the years? .177, .22, .25, .30, .35.?.

And if so do you believe it’s the ability to more accurately machine or produce a specific cal. Over other Caliber’s. And or is it combination of barrel caliber and ammunition available for that specific caliber.

Before you start, I know environmental conditions and how to read and adjust for them play a large role in accuracy.

It’s just a question I’ve been kicking around to myself for awhile and know there are huge numbers of FX shooters on this forum that have and shoot many calibers of FX liners.

Showing off the factory laminate family!

HW77 (long), HW30S, HW98 and HW97 all wearing their factory laminate outfits.

I've become more and more interested in springers lately. Maybe going g back to the roots? Bought my first PCP in April of 2002 - 22 years ago. Geez.

Well, hope you enjoy the pic!

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Other  EDgun Lelya 2.0 <> Taipan Veteran Compact

Sometimes we just have to experience the pros and cons for ourselves and satisfy that itch. The Vet I've had for awhile and the EDgun just came in. Initial thoughts, EDgun is lighter and shoulders better - more comfortable. Taipan moderator is quieter. Both shot with a pellet, subjectively sound the same in the loudness comparison. EDgun has more mechanical noise in operation. Accuracy comparison is yet to happen. Both are .22 caliber which is what I prefer to run right now. Next on the menu is getting rings and scope for the EDgun. Hope a few others here on AN might enjoy my venture through these two nice air rifles. It may be awhile before posting follow-ups because the $ is GONE.

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Air Venturi  Maple vs Carm Magazines

I've used my avenger with stock mags till now. Since switching from cphps to JSB the mags tend to damage the pellet skirts so I'm only using one of my mags that has lighter spring tension and usually only half filled. I'm looking for some new mags. I've heard a lot of good about the Carm mags but almost nothing from Maple. How do those compare with Carm? Which would you recommend?

PCP Rifle  SOLD .22 AGN Vixen Long $750

Nearly new .22 AGN Vixen Long. From the original owner--

"That rifle was tuned by Derrick Wall. It is a great shooter. I got it from him right after he shot it in a competition and traded it to Leon shortly after. Just to verify from your post."

I have only shot this a couple of times when I got it and it's been in my safe ever since. Holds air. Good power. I shot a couple of magazines this morning so I could include some numbers. These are posted below the photographs. The rifle is in top shape with the exception of a small spot on the stock. I've tried to show this in the last photo. Easily covered by a marker, etc., but I didn't want to hide anything. Included but not pictured is a magazine holder for the 2 mags. It gives the rifle a more tactical look. This is not in my photos, but is included in the photos in the original post linked below.

Includes the rifle, 2 mags, mag holder, fill probe, and manual. Does not include the fill hose or scope and rings (if you're interested we can discuss it).

I purchased this from a fellow AGN member who I trust and respect. His original post is linked below. (More photos, info, etc.)
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/sold-reduced-agn-technology-vixen-long-22-caliber.1301253/

$750 shipped within CONUS. Payment by PayPal Friends & Family or I'll as you to pay the addition fee. No trades at this time. Thanks for looking!

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JSB 18.13
Shot count: 12
Low: 907 FPS
Hi: 916 FPS
Avg: 911 FPS
Spread: 9 FPS
STD Dev: 3.0 FPS

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PCP Rifle  FOUND WTT My Fx Impact M3 for your …

Looking to trade this for another pcp rifle/pistol. Cash can go either way

Looking for Edgun Leshiy or leshiy 2, FX wildcat (compact and prefer wood), potentially other Edgun bullpup style rifles, HW44 pistol in .177 (already have a .22). I prefer .22 caliber for trades except for the hw44. Also open to other high end pistols. Quietness is a big factor for me as well.

About my gun:

FX Impact M3 30cal with 700mm barrel. Rifle has less than 100 rounds through it and is equipped with a Sabre Tactical Pic rail ($150). Rifle also comes with Donny FL moderator, and a digital pressure gauge (not installed) and whatever 30 cal pellets I have.. At least 2 tins.

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I get aggravated at myself

I have several really nice rifles and pistols, but I recently realized I am spending most of my time and efforts trying to get the troublesome ones to perform better. Rather than enjoy the accuracy and performance of the good ones it's like I am a social worker for the junk ones, especially pistols. And rarely do i succeed in improves the errant ones. Sorry about the rant. I am considering a garage sale or scrap yard donation.

PCP Rifle  WTS AGT Uragan .30 like-new condition

Hi everyone - Up for sale is my near-mint condition .30 AGT Uragan rifle.

I've included lots of photos, but am happy to take more and/or videos for any serious buyer, just let me know.
  • Asking $1,100 $1,000 shipped to CONUS lower 48 only.
  • Originally purchased from and tuned by Charlie Frear of Georgia Airguns (please see his test groupings below).
  • Less than 5 full mags shot with it. Yep, I said 5.
  • Includes AGT soft case, user manual, 2 mags, fill probe/whip, Crown Saver, AGT pen, and AGT keychain.
  • Also included is an open tin of JSB Exact .30 Diabolo pellets. I didn't count total pellets remaining, but guessing 85%+ left (see photo)
  • Practically new, incredibly accurate and well-built. Hoping it goes to a good home and sees lots of use.
Important
  1. Don't hesitate to ask questions! I will do my best to answer all of them.
  2. Payment via PayPal only. F&F preferred.
  3. Shipping IS included in the price, but will only ship to CONUS lower 48 states. Signature required.
  4. Sorry, no trades.
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AEA  AEA HP SS .25 Blowback Action in 960 FPS Slow Motion

You can have a look at the blowback action of the AEA HP SS .25 cal in 960fps slow motion.


There are two videos showing the action with a pressure of 200bar and 160bar.
It has pretty much the same timing. You can clearly see the violent bouncing of the
bolt at both ends. The clip reconfirms that the cycling action is working fine and that
all previous issues were with the magazines. If you go too high on pressure you might
have the bolt rebounding too far back and reloading another pellet or jamming.
It is also clear that you can go much lower in pressure from 160 bar, but I did not
try it because then you might damage the valve poppet when the hammer hits it
against low pressure.
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Mechanical or Electronic?

I'm an old fart and love mechanical things of all sorts. Just love the feel of a well made anything. I'm about to try out a Red Wolf. I'll no doubt add to this post once I've received my new Red Wolf and had a chance to shoot it. However, those of you that have an opinion about this please chime in as to your feelings/emotions regarding "electronic" airguns as opposed to mechanical airguns. Pro's, cons, etc. This has probably been discussed ad nauseam prior to my post but I was unsuccessful in finding much.
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Benjamin  Marauder pistol, hammer drag, rough cocking, what to do?

I have a new Marauder Pistol made in 2018, I rebuilt it with Hill Airgun 105 complete kit, hammer, PEEK striker, springs, fill valve, new o-rings.

I have shot about 1500 rounds through it and have developed very rough and choppy cocking.

I plan on chamfering and polishing all edges in the hammer area of the tube. However I'm not sure this will solve my problem based on the "drag marks" seen in the pictures below. The bottom, backside of the hammer is dragging on the bottom of the tube. Any suggestions while I have it apart?

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Fairfield Sportsmen's Association 100-Yard Benchrest Match Results 4/13/24

Looks like there is some interest in the results of our Benchrest matches here in SW Ohio, so I'll start posting them here. We had been primarily using Facebook and our club webpage to promote and provide results. Just a little preface before the report. I (Jeff Swartz) along with Ryan Spanagel started holding field target and benchrest matches at FSA in 2020. We've worked our way up from 2 matches in a year to eight 100-yard matches in 2023. Our idea behind holding benchrest matches was for practice for the Pyramyd Cup. We modeled the first event after it, with the same 2 qualifying cards and a 1-card finals. At our very first event, we had one shooter put up the best 2 cards of the day in the qualifying rounds, but at the end of the day, he did not win. I was the fortunate recipient of 1st place that day, but it didn't quite sit right with me. My three card total would put me in the middle of the qualifying pack, though I did have a very good final card and the person previously at the top shot his lowest card last. By the way, his 3 card total is still in our top 10 best point totals (of which there are 309 3-card scores after this event), and all he has to show for it is a 2nd place finish. I know the current big BR event format has been referred to as "pretend rest", and MY saying is "coin-flip benchrest". In my opinion, the top 10-15 shooters at these events were not doing much other than flipping coins for the top spot (though Thanye Simmons and Rusbear are trying to prove me wrong with their consistent top 3 finishes). So, every one of our matches since has been sum of 3-cards. We have been very pleased to watch see-saw battles unfold, with a different leader after each round. Ultimately, the shooter with most consistent 3 scores emerges from the pack. The results we witness make us feel we have been vindicated by our decision to go to sum of 3 cards.

Anyway, here is the match report. If you want to peruse the reports for all 22 of our matches, you can find them at https://www.fairfieldsportsmen.com/disciplines/field-target-airgun/match-report/. You can also ask tp join our FB group https://www.facebook.com/groups/airguns.fsa for more information about the matches we hold.

The first 2024 100-yard Benchrest event at FSA started off on a sour note. We arrived to find the weather had blown down nearly half of our target backer boards that we hang the targets on. Before we could set up and get the match rolling, we had to get that fixed. A big thank you to Brandon Michaud and Ana Rose Spanagel who helped Ryan and me hang new boards. We were there early, so the unexpected work only caused a slight delay in getting the match started.

The weather also made life a little difficult during the match. The temperature started out rather chilly until around noon, when the sun came out and made for a beautiful comfortable day. The winds were more mild than the forecast, but what was lacking in wind speed, it more than made up for in shiftiness. You could hear the frustration down the line as you couldn’t count on two shots in a row with the same conditions. The numerous winds flag on the course had moments where it looked like 9 of them were pointing in 9 different directions. It is hard to imagine a more twitchy wind. You could also tell everyone was shaking off the winter rust as it seemed many mistakes were made. We saw a little of everything. Double loads, targets skipped and not shot, targets double tapped, and even targets accidentally shot again after all 25 shots had been taken. I imagine we’ll all get better the next time around.

We had 13 participants for the first of two 3-card matches. Robert Moore led after the first round as he shot a really solid 234 6X on the first card. This was the highest single score shot all day. His score dropped on the second card, which allowed Ana Rose Spanagel to pull into a tie with Rob, each with a total of 450 after 2 cards. The next closest competitor was 8 points behind at 442. Ana Rose shot another very consistent card of 219 to top Rob’s 215. Rob finished second and Jeff Swartz slid into 3rd place, 2 points behind Rob. In 5 previous attempts, Ana Rose’s best finish was a 5th place, but today she notched her first win joining a select group of only 7 people to place first in 22 matches over the past 4 years. This win was the first time the main even has been won with a caliber other than .30. Ana Rose was shooting a .25 caliber Air Venturi AvengeX that her husband Ryan set up. This was by far the least expensive gun on the line at this match and maybe ever. But it was definitely capable of hanging with the Impacts, Crowns, Red Wolfs and Epochs.

After our “Main Event” was over, 10 people stuck around for a second match. At least 4 shooters switched to a different gun. By the time the 2nd card was complete, Jeff Swartz had opened up a 9-point lead. While dropping below 220 on his last card he was still able to secure first place, holding off Ryan Spanagel who placed second. Tom Cox shot a 225 on his third card in some very difficult conditions to take 3rd place (he moved up 3 spots from 6th place after 2 cards).

We had a person interested in shooting our new-shooter loaner gun, but they ultimately couldn’t make it to the match. It could have been their day, as the loaner gun is the same make, model and caliber that won the main event. High Pressure Pneumatics donated an AV AvengeX, Hawke donated a Sidewinder scope, Donny FL donated moderators, and Predator International donated the pellets. With Ryan and Jeff supplying the rest and air a new shooter would have everything they need to give this sport a try. The gun will be available at all matches this year, so if you’re a new shooter and want to participate, let us know.

A big thank you to everyone in attendance and please make sure you thank all of our sponsors (Baker Airguns, Hawke Optics, Predator International, Donny FL, and High Pressure Pneumatics) by considering them for all your air gunning needs.

Jeff Swartz and Ryan Spanagel

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Recommended FPE for vervet monkeys

Evening guys.
Any of you have any experience culling vervet monkeys? I have been approached by the govt vet to assist in their efforts to get rid of the IAS species starting to negatively affect the island.

I have been searching all over to find numbers for FPE recommendations but have not come up with anything.

Anyone have any recommendations or links / resources that would be of use?

Thanks in advance.
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PCP Rifle  NLA Kalibrgun Snipe 25 caliber

im listing this for a good friend. if you have daystate, Brk or a krait your not using let me know. those are not the only possible trades but preferred. the trade can be a 1 for 1 trade or the snipe plus cash depending on the pcp. let me know what you have. if you want more pictures pm me. the gun is also available for sale.

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