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Air Gunners

Are air gunners more informed on ballistics and scopes?
I've been to out local shooting range many times talking to other shooters about bullet drop and noticed most have no clue what their projectile does after it leaves the barrel.
I'm on the hunt for a small scope to fit on my Dream Tact. I do have a small Discovery scope but the scope rings block the mag.
I thought about buying a cantilever rings but I first thought about looking if our local Sportsman's Warehouse had a magnified short range AR scope. Something with holdover points.
While I was there, a sales-dude asked if I had any questions. I was looking at Vortex's prismatic scope and asked if the 5x scope had parallax error at close range.
The guy looked at me and said, "You only need to adjust your parallax if you don't have perfect eye sight, you have astigmatism, or if you shoot with one eye close."
I tried not to laugh but I asked him where he heard that, and was told the sporting goods manager told him that's what parallax was for.
In a polite way, I told him the reason you adjust parallax is to focus two lens inside the scope to your target you are trying to hit. You can notice parallax error if you move your eye up and down and see if the reticle moves. If you take out the parallax error at a certain distance, the reticle shouldn't move. He looked at me and said I was totally wrong and walked off.

PCP Rifle  SOLD SOLD Taipan Veteran Compact 22 Reduced Price

Need to thin the herd some so I have for your consideration a Taipan Veteran Compact 22 with 3 mags, SS adapter, Picatinny rail, Donnyfl 1/2x20 Mod adapter and fill probe. This has the CZ barrel so it's very accurate, shoots great more accurate than I can shoot it. It likes JSB 16 or 18gr, Hades and polymags I haven't tried slugs in it, nothing wrong with it other than some scuffs on the shroud and airtube as seen in the pictures from the previous owner. Scope and rings not included, Asking $950 Now $925 Now $875 shipped...Thanks Terry
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Of Airguns And Humans- by The Voice Of Experience

Given the steady stream of posts on this forum by newbies and experienced airgunners alike on subject(s) relating to airgun weirdnesses, thought this might be a timely opportunity to quote the Voice Of Experience. Some of It's more profoundly memorable quotes-

1) "Airguns are like people. Each has it's own quirks, foibles and idiosyncrasies. And although those three terms are largely synonymous, when talking airguns or people, the three terms are NOT redundant!"

2) "Airguns develop problems or issues for any number of reasons... or no reason at all!"

3) "Airguns are no more schizophrenic than gorgeous red-heads... on crack!"

4) "Airguns are no more psychotic than my fourth ex-wife; who I left after the third time she stabbed me. Damn I miss that girl!"

5) "Why did I buy a springer? Because since I left my fourth ex-wife after the third time she stabbed me there's a whole in my soul marked 'Aggravation'."

6) "Under the definition of 'schizophrenic' in the Websters dictionary there's an image of a spring-piston airgun."

7) "Under the definition of 'psychotic' in the Websters dictionary there's an image of a cheap spring-piston airgun. And an image of my fourth ex-wife."

8) "Want to lose a friend? Help them buy an airgun."

9) "Want to make an enemy? Broker an airgun transaction for a friend."

10) "Want to avoid damage claims when shipping airguns? Package them in such a way as to make it IMPOSSIBLE for package-handling apes bent on destroying the contents to succeed."

11) "Shipping claims are to be avoided at all costs. My one and only damage claim took NINE MONTHS OF AGGRAVATION to settle."

12) "Want to avoid incompetent and/or agenda-driven postal or shipping company clerks refusing to accept your package? Take a printed copy of their company and federal regulations on shipping airguns with you. If a clerk still refuses after you've provided inarguable evidence of her lies, ask for her supervisor."

13) "Want to have as much fun as possible with airguns and Humans? See #12 above."

14) "I used to be normal; then got into airguns."

NLA Kral np03 $150 shipped

22 but converted to 177.

Hold air just fine, has power spring in it. On low it does 1000 fps with crosman hollow points.

Will come with original spring and 22 bolt probe with single shot tray.

Fill probe and 5 mags.

Stock was cut down by another member to make a bottle gun.

I was planning another build with this but lost interest with 177 and don't need another 22 or 25.

$150 PayPal preferred or PMO

Ships CONUS only

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In 5 years, my ONLY complaint! (FX BOSS)

Spent 4 hours with Centercut yesterday getting my FX Boss up & running. It's my absolute favorite gun. But after those 4 hrs getting the sear, hammer weight & hammer to work correctly the trigger 2nd stage was dangerously feather light. I figured no big deal, I'll fix it when I get home. Took me almost 3 hours just to adjust it. It is STUPIDLY complicated. Every time one certain screw is turned, 3 or 4 others have to be readjusted to "balance" it out. The FX manual for it is sort of generic (covers about 6 different guns) & the trigger adjustment section doesn't even address the Boss specifically. Very frustrating! Wish someone could engineer an aftermarket assembly to simplify this craziness. ONLY complaint I've ever had.
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NLA Wts-several project guns

All for one price. I will ship in a large box.

Couple 760 Crosmans, one in pieces.
Couple Daisy Eagle's. They don't shoot.
Daisy 880, very nice, shoots but weak.
Crosman G1 Extreme .177. Shoots but inaccurate.
Winchester 800x, shoots but very rough.

These are all considered parts or project guns. Asking $125.00 for all shipped. Shipping will probably cost me $50.
[email protected]

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Handling .177 pellets with bad mitts and eyes...tips and tricks please

I'd like to get a .177 but have such a hard time handling pellets I'm leaning towards .22 unless someone has some great tips for loading.
Currently my only .177 loading experience is loading my 1950's single shot Sears & Roebuck Daisy.
I feel like loading a magazine might be easier but am not sure about that.
Thanks for any input.

Traditional Rifle  NLA .22 Weihrauch HW80 - tuned - better than new

Making way for the next airgun project, I am putting up for sale my Weihrauch HW80 in ,22. It has been very carefully and patiently tuned utilizing a Vortek PG 3 HO Kit. The test and performance results have been included below for your review. Its favorite pellet is the JSB Hades.

This rifle is in nearly perfect condition. It has likely had less than a tin of pellets through it from my indoor range only. I tuned and polished the trigger. I have the iron sights to include with it.

This rifle is extremely accurate for the power level it is putting out in a springer. The shot and cocking cycles are very smooth. This would make an idea backyard pesting rifle.

I am selling for basically the cost of the rifle and the tuning components, with no recovery of all of the tuning work. Total price including shipping is $730 within the continental US, PayPal F&F, or add 3% for regular PayPal. The Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24x50 FFP scope on the Sports Match vertically adjustable rings are not included, but could be purchased for an additional $400. I am not interested in trades or lower offers.

You can check my ratings, but I believe nearly everyone that has purchased one of my tuned rifles has been very satisfied.

Thanks for looking!

DZ

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First PCP and weird issue

Hi.
After decades of springers, I decided to get into PCP's.
So to start, I bought 2 Akelas, one in .177 and one in .22 for my son and I for some pest control work we do. They fit the budget for the type of environment we work in doing this work.
The .22 remains unfired so far. Maybe today we will get it set up.
But after only around 70 rounds through the .177, I experienced a very odd (to me) problem. I've already contacted Benjamin via their customer service portal, but I don't see hearing back for a day or three.
Quite simply:
When the trigger is pulled, the rifle does nothing this started around shot 60ish. However, it does fire flawlessly on the second pull of the trigger. I would like to explain what the trigger pull is like on the first and second pull now, but it's different. Like it doesn't stage. But I'm so new to this rifle, I may be totally wrong.
I have scoured the interwebz looking for any clue on what could be causing it. I can't find any brand or model where this is even closely discussed. The rifle is going back for sure, but I'd like to know the cause. Because that's how learning gets done.

And while I'm here, I have to say....... I'm very happy to have found this forum. There is so much good info on here and what looks to be some very dedicated and insightful members.

Leshiy 2 pistol build

I posted this in the custom pics thread and am breaking it off for some more details here.

This is a pistol that I’m in the process of completing. It functions fine but I’ve not had a chance to really get into the tuning yet.

It weighs 2.7lbs and has an 8” barrel. The action doesn’t open for reloading due to the air supply from regulator running to the plenum. The mag has the axle removed and a bushing installed and the action has a retractable axle that’s operated by the lever on the side. This allows mag to slide in/out without opening action.

Here’s some pics.

Dave

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.177 best weight for accuracy

i have a Diane 350 magnum in .177 caliber. i bought the variety pack with different pellet weights. rifle did not like the light fast pellets and didn't show any real accuracy until i tried the copper coated Crossman 10.6 gr. they were shooting .75 at 50 yards. being new to air rifles in the 21st century I'm not sure if that's good or bad. The H&N hornets shot about the same at 10.3 gr's. i use the rifle mainly on squirrels in my pecan trees.

bought the wrong scope, I think

Arken Optics SH4 GEN2 6-24X50 Rifle Scope FFP VPR Illuminated Reticle with Zero Stop 34mm Tube​

I hope this scope is clear at 10 yards, I like the 34 mm tube but I thought I was getting the light version but looking closer I do not see a L in there on the SH L 4 , All set to buy the Athlon 2x12-42 Helos and I go and buy the Arken, Just a brain fart I could send it back and get the Helos down the road when my refund shows up, Or I can just suffer and have a very heavy Huben 22,, Got my Crimson Trace 5x25-56 on my Huben now, Love the scope but its heavy 3 to 4 LBS if I was guessing. I so wanted to keep the Huben light, But this gun is like AT&T its got a reach to it long range,
Mike

Barrel cleaning vs Chronograph

I'm not real smart or educated so take the following with that grain of salt.

I have an old springer BSA Supersport in 22cal. I've owned it a long time and never cleaned the barrel. Decided to chrono it, clean barrel and chrono again. I used Crosman Primere hollow point hunting pellets that are not labeled but assume they are in the 15gr range.

After a few shots to stabilize I got the following string 596,632,630,626,624 for a 621 average with a 36fps spread.

Cleaned barrel with solvent and vigorous brass brushing. Ran many dry patches thru her to try and remove any lubricating effects left behind.

Went back out and shot a few shots that started high and quickly came back down. Removing any applied lubricants? Then recorded the following string 615,615,617,616,620 for a 616 average with a 5fps spread.

The first shot on the dirty barrel is an outlier and if ignored brings the spread back down from 36 to 8fps.

Dirty barrel was faster in this case but slightly less consistent. Possible (probable) issue that could contribute to dirty being faster is that I shot it a few days ago with vicks vapo rub packed in the tail end of some pellets. Tried to erase this issue with a dozen or so shots before recording the initial readings. It was slowing down over those first dozen shots and when it seemed to stabilize, that's when I started writing em down.

Thoughts?

Which pellet weight?

Hey all. I'm fairly new to air gunning and wanted to see what the popular opinion is on finding one pellet / weight to run. I have a .25 fx maverick sniper on the way and want to purchase pellets ahead of time. From what I gathered during my research is that this gun likes FX/JSB 25.39 and 34 grain pellets. My question is which of the two should I stock up on if I were going to tune it once for that weight? I will mostly be shooting paper at 50 - 100 yards but may take the occasional pest shot when the opportunity arises. My instinct tells me to go with the 34 grain pellets but I would like to hear everyone's thoughts that are familiar with these pellets / weights doing similar shooting. Thanks!

SOLD Weihrauch HW80k (Beeman R1 cousin) .20 cal, Like New

Like new HW80k (Carbine) in .20 cal. Barrel length measured from the breech is 16". Gun purchased new from AOA in June 2016. Gun was for my Son but was too heavy. Less than 100 pellets fired and has been the Safe since. Includes Front Sight Inserts and 2-Tins of pellets as pictured. Price is $499. Will ship only to the CONUS. Payment via Zelle, USPMO, Certified Bank Check or Cash. Local pickup in Massachusetts available. Please PM with any questions you may have.

SOLD ARKEN SH4 GEN2 6-24X50mm FFP MOA VPR

Arken Optics SH4 Gen2 6-24x50 34mm Viper FFP (First Focal Plane) Scope w/ Zero Stop, Illuminated MOA Reticle w/ factory sunshade, front & rear flip up covers and bikini covers. Excellent condition. Includes the Combo Pack: Set of Flip Its, bikini caps, Set of 34mm Rings, Bubble Level, Throw Lever, Rear Bag, head band, and Patch.

$300 shipped, PayPal FF please.



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Here are some details from the Arken Optics website:

SH4 6-24X50 GEN2 FFP

MOA VPR Illuminated Reticle with Zero Stop - 34mm Tube

SPECIFICATIONS:
Magnification: 6-24x
Objective Diameter: 50 mm
Eye Relief: 3.5 inches
Field of View: 20.88-5.22 ft @100 Yards
Tube Size: 34 mm
Turret Adjustment: 1/4 MOA
Reticle Position::
First Focal Plane
Reticle Details: VPR MOA
Zero Stop: AZS Zero Stop System
Zero Reset: Yes
Elevation Adj. Range: 108.8MOA
Windage Adj. Range: 34.4MOA
Adjustment Per Revolution: 20 MOA
Parallax: Side Parallax Adjustment 20Yds - Infinity
Illuminated Reticle: Red
Turret Rotation: Counter Clockwise (CCW)
Length: 14.1 inches
Color: Matte Black
Weight: 36.6 oz
Sunshade: yes
Battery included: CR2032

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