Is this worth a restoration. Or just clean up for wall hanger?

Selling both to get one! Local pickup only or will meet within a reasonable distance of 30701

First gun is my uragan 2 king bought it new from talon tunes! it shoots great it’s. in .22 caliber will need a seal replaced (don’t know which one) it’s a very small air leak…. So small it took me several times shooting it to even notice it! It doesn’t affect the shooting just leaks air over a span of a few days! $1000 for uragan 2 king .22 caliber

Next one is my AirForce Texan LSS .457 caliber this thing punches hard nothing wrong with it at all! I bought it new also! I have taken care of both guns just want to sale to get another one! I can answer more questions when asked! Thanks and GOD BLESS!!
$1000 for AirForce Texan LSS .457 caliber

New in box Yong Heng 4500PSI compressor . I just removed the top of the shipping box for pictures and proof of item. Never used bought and ended up selling my PCP's so no need . Price $200 if local pick tip in Denver Colorado otherwise add 70 for UPS ground shipping Continental US only . Payment accepted USPS MO or Zelle or wire transfer or PayPal add the 3.5 % fee . Happy to chat if PM me

A recent thread about a .177 Panthera got me thinking about this again. They are available so there must be a demand for them, I just don't understand why.

In spite of having a couple of them, I've always thought the .177 caliber to be ideal for springers but too small for the power of a typical modern PCP.

Based on personal experience, the small calibers don't seem to "breathe" as well as calibers with larger (bore) volumes. There's a balance between bore diameter and power and efficiency suffers if it's wrong. It's obvious if you have a big-bore airgun with insufficient power for the job - but what about if you're trying to push too much power through a small bore? An example of this might be a PCP that have a greater shot-count in .22 than .177.

Guess that I'm relating to the fact that it's easier to blow through a large pipe than a small one, less resistance even without an obstruction (pellet).

I have two Weihrauch HW100 PCPs, a .177 and a .22. Both shoot well, but the .22 shoots better. Not a scientific description, just an observation after thousands of shots with each. The .177 accuracy and stability improved (was seeing a lot of spiraling) when I detuned it from the factory 19 fpe to 14 fpe... it needed/wanted less power and the design (originally a sub-12 PCP) could handle that.

I've read of problems with High-Power (HP or FAC designated) airguns being tuned down to sub-12 fpe performing poorly. Wouldn't a valve system designed to operate at 130-160 bar be at a disadvantage if it had to work at 80-100 bar? Kinda like running an 8 cylinder engine with 6 sparkplugs? I'm not an engineer so I don't know.

Case in point, a .177 Panthera. The Dynamic block on the Panthera is designed for high power (50 plus fpe). Even with adjusting the plenum and modifying the transfer port and pellet probe, I wonder if it will ever be happy tuned to .177 (accurate, subsonic) power levels with typical pellets. Heavier slugs would be a different consideration (presuming that a suitable liner is available).



I categorize PCPs as low and mid power; normal power and high power related to typical power/caliber figures I've seen as follows...

At the low (.22 caliber) end of PCP power I see "standard" airguns shooting 18 grain pellets at 30ish fpe and the .22 "HP" airguns preferring 25 (and heavier) pellets/slugs for twice that power. I call these general shooting and "small game" rifles and this is my preferred airgun niche.

At the normal power levels there are the .25, .30 (.35?) caliber producing the typical (and optimal?) PCP performance considering power, range, shot-count. These are the long range "coyote" guns.

The high power PCPs are big-bore, large game airguns where where power is everything and all else is what it is.

I don't see a place for the .177. I'm not saying that you can't have an excellent .177 caliber PCP as there's many examples but (by the valve and barrel) they're typically sub-12 fpe airguns. I just don't see the .177 as being a practical caliber in a modern slug capable PCP.

Anyway, just a couple of thoughts. I'm curious what's your perspective is, please feel free to correct my thinking.

Cheers!

I have come to realize I have way to many toys and have decided to sell a few things that I have duplicates of so today I'm posting my Brocock Commander XR in .22 cal.
as most know this thing shoots Awesome rifle holds air and works just like it did when I purchase it from AOA I would prefer a local sale but will ship just pay shipping
$1000. rifle only (no scope or bipod) + shipping I can and will use AOA for shipping if buyer would like
$1100. rifle and scope. + shipping the scope is a Vortex crossfire has box and can remove scope for shipping
comes with 3 Mags 1 factory and 2 3D printed they work as they should were purchased from a board member
Bipod is nor for sale
Located in Mesa AZ text works best 602 769 4995

PENDING….Super accurate, hard hitter. synthetic stock, .177, excellent condition. 350.00 shipped conus. Scope not included. Call or text Shawn at 405-246-5841.

What is the difference between a silencer in a modulator on air gun?

WTS Beeman R-9 22 cal. Mint. Bought from Flying Dragonafter he set up and tuned before shipping to me in Colorado.
Only fired indoors in my basement storage area for function. My Wife & I were planning to move to a larger land Home lot but moving has been put on hold . No dings or dents or scratches seems like new . Kept in a smoke free pet free finished basement. Selling off r$480. include std UPS shipping Continental US . Payment by USPS Postal MO. or Bank wire . Feel free to PM me if you want to chat plenty of refs here. Rifle will be safely packed double boxed. No trades needed.

Walnut Air Arms Pro Sport 22 Cal. with or without Hawke Airmax 30 SFCompact 3X12 40 IR with rings . The AA Pro sport has only been fired maybe 10 shots on my indoor range . I would have described mint but noticed a pen tip scuff on the barrel shown in pics that must have happened in my gun vault. I cover my rifles with a synthetic sleeve so quite perplexed how this happened . Not a dent but mark. Selling the rifle for $850 shipped Continental US only Std Ups ground double boxed. If you want the Hawke scope retails for $519 will sell for $200. additional. I am looking for the box but for now not found. Happy to chat if you want to PM me . Several refs here with the new format many before on old format . Payment by Zelle or USPS MO or Bank transfer. No trades needed.

Just to satisfy my curiosity, I decided to shoot 2 groups of 5 shots each for all the better quality 177 pellets I currently have in stock. I shot straight from the tin/box with no sorting, except the JSB Match S100 which were already all sorted. I then took the average of each pair and documented those.

First the pellets I am shooting


Here are the target pairs.



The overall group size averages are:

Tied for smallest = JSB Exact 8.44 and H&N Baracuda FT 9.57 at 4.5mm
Second = FX 10.3 gn at 5.3mm
Third = RWS Superpoint 8.2 gn at 6.71mm
Fourth = JSB Match Premium Heavy 8.26 gn wadcutter at 7.1mm
Fifth = QYS green box wadcutters 8.18 gn at 7.58mm
Sixth = QYS red box Olympic wadcutters 8.18 gn at 8.16mm
Seventh = H&N Finale Match wadcutters 8.18 gn at 8.29mm
Eighth = JSB Match S100 wadcutters 8.18 gn at 9.64mm (Largest average group size and only batch that were sorted).

Take away from this experiment is that my particular HW44 prefers domed or pointed pellets over wadcutters. I doesn't seem to be fussy about weight or head size or sorting.

This was a fun exercise for me and helped me sort my pellet stash in my mind — stick with the three that give the smallest average sized groups. These have been my go-to pellets in the various challenges.

How Wroried are you that you’re start state is going to start restricting airguns Lake Illinois has

AirForceTalonSS, .22 caliber with Sound-Loc system, all original tools, two 9ounce CO2 tanks with a slip on shoulder brace, CO2 adapter, opensights, stock brace, extension tube, manual, and CD. The rifle hasa Super Sear trigger installed and the automatic safety has beendeactivated to allow the rifle to be uncocked, the parts to redo therifle back to the original configuration is included. The rifleshoots accurately and has never leaked. One CO2 tank has a date andis expired, the other has no date. $450 includes shipping. Zelle or USPS money order.

For any one that has the economic means to pay for US 1.5k - 2.3 k dollars for one of your rilfes, it would be the same to pay 100 - 150 dollars more if you could make a test on any rifle that you will send to the market to verify at 1000% at least the following:


- All pieces are dully tight.

- The rifle works properly.

- The rifle shots as accurately as you want your rifle to be identified.

- The rifle has no leaks at all.

- The trigger is tunned to works as light as possible but with absolutely security.

That way you could win a reputation of selling real quality rifles.

We as users would thank that, and such 100 - 150 extra dollars would have more value than the time, pellets and accesories we need to invest in an unfinished rifle to make it work properly.

That way we final users can clearly distinguish among a good purchase and a gamble.

Hello everyone, my name is Greg, I go by woodtickgreg just about everywhere. I've been out of air gunning for awhile but I'm looking to get back into it. I have an old Sheridan bluestreak that needs to be revealed, not sure who can do that. And I have a brand new Nova Vista in the box that's never been shot that I want to sell. I purchased the wrong gun. I'm looking to get a weirauch hk97 at some point. I'm looking forward to learning from you all. I wish I would have found this forum before I purchased the Nova, not that it's a bad gun it's just not what I really wanted. I'm not a pcp type guy. I like pumps and springers, I know wierd. But it's what I shot in my youth and it's affordable as a hobby.
Thanks for having me gang.

Since we forgot to post this on AGN earlier

Extended from now till Nov 3 2023 11:59 PM EST!

It's interesting to note that the name "Huben" seems to be pronounced differently on YouTube. I’m wondering if it's commonly pronounced as "Hugh-ben" or "Hoo-ben"?

Cheers
Bible

Hello there! I have an almost a month old FX Dreamline Saber Tactical Elite Model of .22 caliber. Out of the box, the Settings were 120Bar/Medium/17 (Regulator/Front Adjuster/Hammer Tension). I am using only 15gr and 18gr pellets and i think i am already on maxout of my settings and they are still below the 910fps recommended. Could you please see if i have to touch the regulator pressure now but on videos on youtubes some are already having even below 120bar Reg pressure but getting higher velocities.

Here are my Chrono Results adjusting only the Hammer for now:

@15.89gr JSB Hades
120Bar/Medium/17
823fps or 251mps

@15.89gr JSB Hades
120Bar/Medium/21
880fps or 268mps

@15.89gr JSB Hades
120Bar/Medium/23
900fps or 274mps


using heavier grain:

@18.13gr HN Baracuda
120Bar/Medium/17
816fps or 249mps

@18.13gr HN Baracuda
120Bar/Medium/23
850fps or 259mps

It really pays to check in every now and then because as we began to ripen, we will forget more than we will ever remember and that starts with our "passwords".

What is the best mid prices HFT scope that ranges well at 35-55 yds

Selling a like new Sekhmet Stainless 28mm gauge 1/8 BSPP thread and a new USB updater. The Sekhmet gauge was too large for my purpose so I went back to the mechanical gauge and never used the USB updater. Gauge has all accessories and instruction guide. Asking $110 firm for both shipped free to the first 48 states. Prefer Paypal F&F, will also accept USPS Money Order.

OK, so I bought this gun a few weeks ago and I just can not get it to group. Sometimes 2 or 3 pellets will hit really close then the next several pellets are up to several inches off. I've tried holding it loose, tight, resting on my fore arm and nothing seems to help. I've tried the included scope, a Center Point and Hawke. I may take the scope off and try the iron sights and see how that does. I can't return so I'm stuck with it, plus it gets hard to cock after a while, I can shoot the HW50s and R0 for a hour and not get fatigued. May just take it to a pawn shop and see what they'll give me for it and order another R9 in .22. May give it to my son or nephew.
I took my .177 Beeman R9 out there and stacked a few pellets almost in the same hole.

Panthera 700 mm 22 cal, purchased April 2023, still has 2 1/2 years warranty remaining, comes with 2 mags, forward bottle adaptor ( never installed), CARM single shot loader and hard case.

Howdy all! Anyone have any personal experience yet with the new version of the venerable Crosman 1077 CO2 airgun (1077 Tactical) now being advertised on the Crosman website? I'm interested in general discussion about/impressions of/concerns about the new air rifle, whether based only on what's available online, or even better, personal experience (having actually seen the beast), or best of all, having been able to pick one up, examine it, check it out (weight, handling, shooting, etc.); that sort of thing. If interested, your contribution would be very much appreciated.

For example: I'd be INCREDIBLY impressed if this 'new and improved,' tactical version (tactical? ewwwwww, ahhhhhh, ohhhh, etc. <grin>) outperformed one, most, all or none of the earlier versions, or actually comes anywhere near the 780fps advertised, since that's about the same oomph as what I'm (supposed to be) getting out of my Umarex 850 M2 (purportedly suitable for small game hunting). Based solely on the penetration into my homemade pellet traps (repeatedly stuffed with about twenty-five 14"x19" cardboard sheets assembled out of what I salvage from the boxes in which online stuff ordered by my wife and I arrives), my 1077W doesn't come anywhere even close to matching the sheet penetration I get out of my 850M2. Actually, I doubt my 850M2 is shooting even lead-free alloy H&N Baracuda Green pellets (my indoor ammo) at almost 800fps. Are the changes from the earlier 1077 models solely cosmetic, or IS there some notable boost to performance (or handling, or anything else) with the 1077 Tactical?

I hope to hear from y'all, so many thanks!

- Bubba

Hello,
I am looking for how people like. I want the tube one. I'm going to sell my leaking RTI and get one.
Thanks
Jon