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N/A  Barrel through Plentum VS. Barrel through Reservoir VS. Barrel through Plentum AND Reservoir ?

Barrel through Plentum ....
VS.
Barrel through Reservoir
VS.
Barrel through Plentum AND Reservoir ...

This seems to be a new, and unique trend suddenly.
Will it stand the test of time, and offer a more stable P.O.I., or will it be just another gimmic?
Reguardles, there seems to be several different companies that are heading in this direction.

I made a quick list of rifles that offer this unique construction, and Im wondering if there are any others?

Altaros M24 (Barrel through reservoir)
Artemis M30 (Barrel through reservoir)
Evanix Viper Pistol (Barrel through reservoir)
JTS Thunderlance (Barrel through plentum)
JTS Shylock (Barrel through plentum)
FX Panthera (Barrel through plentum)
FX King (Barrel through plentum)
FX Dynamic (Barrel through plentum)
FX DBS Classic (Barrel through plentum)
FX DBS Pro (Barrel through plentum)
FX DBS Sub12 (Barrel through plentum)
Barra 250Z (Barrel through plentum AND reservoir)
JTS StealthHawk (Barrel through plentum AND reservoir)

Are there any other models that offer this unique construction?

MAKING TARGETS

Using recycled material. I am making targets using silver tin 2 1/2 inch circles . My question is should I paint them black ? If so, gloss or flat ? I plan to center a 1/4 inch round yellow fluorescent dot on each circle. I think it would be fun to shoot five shot groups at 25 or 30 yards after dark when it warms up. I KNOW I HAVE WAY TO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS BUT IT SURE BEATS THE HELL OUT HONEY DO'S. REGRESSING, DO YOU THINK. I AM ONLY 74. PLUS MY SON,HIS WIFE AND MY TWO YOUNG GRANDSONS ARE COMMING HOME AFTER SPENDING THE LAST TEN YEARS IN THE COUNTRY OF GEORGIA. YAHOO !

First night with the Uragan 2 vs trash pandas

Not a bad start with the Hurricane 2 (Uragan) I just got today.

Using the H&N Barracuda Hunter Extremes in .22. 18.52 grains flying at 920 fps for 34 fpe. They are great for headshots. Edit: I have uploaded the videos. They are raw. No comments or anything.



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JTS  JTS has made their own Beeman R9 (HW95) for $150?!?

Of course I’m taking it with a grain of salt, but JTS is on a roll here. They’ve already implemented plenum over barrel for their new selection of PCPs, and now they’re nailing the springer world with 2 new springers. The repeater doesn’t interest me as much as this R9 wannabe lookin springer.

Apparently it (JTS SUPER9X) is competition ready for $150 👀


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JTS  JTS’ FX Wildcat with plenum over barrel + their version of the FX King at Shot Show 2024 (they beat FX by putting a plenum over barrel in a bullpup)

The bullpup is called the thunderlance…pretty slick with the plenum over barrel! Plus it’s got a cocking mechanism that looks to be unique.



The FX King copy looks promising as well…plenum over barrel with this one too. If it is as accurate as the JTS Airacuda…oh boy...slugs are going to be fun.

For the record, still a FX fan.


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Optics  NLA 3 scopes for sale Cheap Cheap Cheap marked down daily. Who will leap first?

Rex 10-40x50 ium SF. NIB This scope is sold under more than a few names.
85.00 80.00 78.50 76.00 s 73.50. hipped PayPal F&F
Campasseco tech force 3-14x40 Ilum NIB 30.00 22.50.00 shipped SOLD
Lebo 4-16x40AO this is a very solid built scope. Also NIB 100.00 90.00 82.50 80.00 shipped.
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FX  Wildcat compact 22 and Altaros slugs👍

Another winter tinker that could be a long winded story but I’ll cut to the chase. It concerns my FX Wildcat, which has served duty in many configurations from 177 to 30 in compact (500mm) and sniper (700mm) form. It started out as a Mk3 tubed version and was converted to a BT through the addition of a plenum tube and bottle adapter. Its most recent config was in 500mm 30 cal but it was made redundant by the arrival of a Sidewinder mini in .30. I decided to turn it into a dedicated little 22 slugger with a heavy 1:16 liner. Nothing new there - Ted Bier and others have posted numerous videos singing the praises of the WC BT compact 22 slugger. The twist here is that I wanted to get it shooting the high BC Altaros 32.3 grain slugs at their favored speed of 880-900fps. I thought that might be a tall order at 56+ FPE, requiring some modification of the valve or deletion of the second reg. However, the little powerhouse came through without having to exceed 150bar. I was also able to keep the stock pellet probe, which keys into the tail of the Altaros slugs ensuring perfect axial loading and smooth magazine operation. YMMV, but pin probes have never done me any favors.

Here’s the config details:

1:16 500mm heavy liner, cleaned and installed into the TP and jam nut with a tight fitting Teflon tape wrap and only one 8x1 oring at the top of the jam nut. Another personal preference over the seemingly wobbly stock 3X oring setup.

CF liner sleeve bonded to the liner with silicone sealant.

Stock pellet probe with port opened up to match the TP without removing any of the circular face that contacts the slug.

Huma slug transfer port.

Heavier brass hammer weight from the Huma WC/Maverick tuning kit with stock spring.

180/150bar Reg1 and 2 and HST set 2 turns out before coil binding prevents cocking.

Regarding the tune, a 150bar plateau speed of 895fps was hit at around 1 turn out from binding on the HST. The shots were loud and clearly wasting air. The surprise was that, even with the excessive air, the slugs seemed to be hitting the same spot. In any case, I dropped the speed until the shot cycle settled. The resulting speed was 880fps and the ES was 4. I’ve read so many times that excess air will destabilize slugs so I wasn’t very optimistic about settling so high on the curve (98.6%) but from what I could see, the slugs were stacking 😳 and the sound was snappy. Perhaps the heavier slugs are not so easily upset? Perhaps it’s an old wives tale born from expectation rather than empirical testing. IDK.

So, here we are with a WC compact 22 shooting 0.18BC slugs at 880fps for 56fpe! For context, that high BC means that the slugs are delivering 47fpe at 100 yards. That’s a pretty useful compact rig. I’ve run it before with a standard liner and light slugs and it was pretty good. But this is (so far and fingers crossed), way better. Here’s a group of 8 at 50 yards with the spent stack of slugs plucked from the duct seal under the target shown at the top. These included the first shot of the day…

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I’ll be taking it out further in the next few days.

Here’s a pic showing the guts after diy conversion from tube to BT. From L to R, BT plenum, original reg section (which I think gives it a slightly larger plenum), another small plenum and then the bottle adapter.

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Finally, a pic of the pellet probe keyed into the base of an Altaros slug. I suspect this plays a role in the exceptional accuracy of these slugs.

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⁍⁍ Did someone say: "We need BETTER PROJECTILES" ??

In another thread @Triglav observed that in powder burner research & development the emphasis has shifted away from simply adding more gun powder in ever increasing cartridges.

And then he said:
"Same principle applies to airguns:
WE NEED BETTER PROJECTILES, not more air through the port, or a larger caliber."


Well said. 👍🏼

🔘 We have NSA blazing the projectile trail with lowering the price of the formerly very expensive slugs.


🔘 We have Altaros blazing the projectile trail with doubling the BC for slugs.


🔘 We heard FX announce "the replacement for the airgun pellet" — that particular exaggeration was published a year and half ago.

➧ I am quite sure that we will NOT follow the advice of their misguided marketeers and "say goodbye to pellets." 😉

🔆 However, I am convinced that a good many of us would have use for a hollow point projectile that:
▪ has an amazing expansion in flesh upon impact, and that
▪ has a high enough BC in order to keep up its impact velocity out to 40 or 50 or more yards — so that that amazing expansion can actually happen!
➔ I'd suggest a true (not fudged) *BC of 0.050*.

➔ Incidentially, a BC of 0.050 would also limit the range and impact of the projectile when used for angled shots into the trees:
At this BC the impact energy of the projectile returning to earth is rather low, cf. graph below.




🔘 Besides better projectiles I have others repeatedly call for barrels that are much better adjusted to the projectiles — and that are more consistently made (one true diameter, not a "nominal" diameter/caliber).
Sounds right!




🔆 These are great times to be an airgunner! 😊
Let's see what the Shot Show, IWA, & Co will bring this year. I hear that Niels at NSA is working on a new projectile that will have great expansion.

Matthias



Graph:
Impact energy upon return to earth — of a 18.13gr projectile with 0.050 BC — shot at various inclination angles:

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PCP Rifle  NLA BROCOCK COMMANDER XR 22 FOLDER HP 2 Mags

$1325 Delivered to your door excluding Hawaii. This gun is an excellent condition comes with two factory magazines. It’s the XR Magnum series shoots absolutely amazing with a great trigger major shot count only reason for selling is, I’m going to buy a brand new rifle to replace this safe queen. barrel has shrink wrap on it to protect it has tiny two little scratches under shrink wrap that are barely noticeable otherwise gun is pristine. I have excellent reviews on eBay and on here as well. If you have any questions, you can reach out to me or call me at 209-984-6322 Dean, thanks for looking you won’t be disappointed…also comes with the factory grip and the Hogue grip that is brand new on it👍 does not leak whatsoever and I have a complete bro cock seal kit in case there ever is a leak check out the reviews on this gun. They are excellent.😎

Does not come with scope or bipod or bubble level will be shipped in original box and double boxed. If you would like to buy the scope, we can discuss that.

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Fill tank valve upgrade, what would you do differently to your's....

I've got an Air Venturi tank that the Midland Diving Equipment valve is leaking on. So far I haven't been able to source the correct valve seal from anyone, so maybe it's time to upgrade the fill apparatus. What have you done to upgrade how you fill your PCP's off the tank? And/or, what would you do differently to the fill system to upgrade?

FX  FX Impact M3 - fired with bolt open

My buddy just purchased an Impact M3 from this site and was shooting it for the second time so it’s still brand new to him. He accidentally fired it with the bolt open and now it’s leaking at the first regulator gauge. He emptied the magazine (25 or so shots) and it functioned fine. It‘s still leaking air.

Where does he start? He’s a powder burner gun builder but new to PCP…

Any help would be appreciated.

BB

N/A  Slow isn’t the word

Just picked up an order I made. Ordered 4 sets of Vortek springs on Dec. 26th.
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I thought they were lost. Ordered springs from the UK 2 days after the Vortek order, got it 2 weeks ago. I could have driven there (Vortek)in just over 6 1/2 hours. The Pony Express would have been faster. Month + is ridicules. I called Tom yesterday but line was busy. This will be my first under powered set to install, going in a 95 .177, try it? Also one is going in a 97 .177.
‘All together since last winter I’ve collected 17 sets to install from 3 different manufacturer.
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Now I have match up springs to a rifle. The fun begins. Crow

Other  Pellets VS. Slugs Redux

So I was just reading a thread from back in 2022 about shooting pellets vs. slugs and what was the fascination with slugs. Many of the posters in the thread talked about no factory slug gun/slug combo that could out shoot pellets at that time? Have things changed since then 2 years later? The talk and buzz about slugs still seems as hot as it was back then but has anything changed to make shooting slugs a better choice than high quality pellets?
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What new gear are you getting with your tax return refund?

The IRS has officially opened for filing.
If you are one of the lucky ones who anticipates getting a refund this year, what is the top new gear on your list to get with your check?

Stocking up on ammo? Getting the new rifle you haven't had the cash for? Third party accessories?

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