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.177 pellet for 100y springer recommendations?

So I finally got to 100y with my .177 pcp rifle.
Now I want to try with my springer😅🤷‍♂️
Winchester 1100SS : for info sake; no tuning, just added a moderator(had to remove front sight to do so, so no irons)
Gunna have to debate on my scope options for what I have on hand... bc I know she kicks and the barska I was using is ...ehhhh...maybe if I change rings.
But projectiles....what weight are you all using?
Should I use the same ones as my pcp?...
All thoughts and comments welcome🎩🤙
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Shout out to Qball and Kgphotos

When I got my new MK2 Crown in .22 I didn't know the first thing about tuning them so I contacted these 2 guys (like 50X each!). I thought I'd post a couple of targets I shot while trying to determine what power setting was best. I don't have a slug power kit. Only change to gun is a glued on CF barrel sleeve and a 580cc CF bottle. also has a Saber tactical bottle mount and Harris bipod. I shot off bipod and rear bag. Had about a 5 mph breeze that didn't seem to do much. On these targets I shot 5 groups of 5 at each power setting from 15-23. The numbering is a bit wacky. Anyway the best aggregate group was at setting 23 which is shooting the 25.39 MRDs at 940 FPS and is .395" C-C. This is at 50 yards outdoors. The worst aggregate group was .65" C-C. ( not counting #16 that I didn't shoot all 5 groups DOH!) Pretty much everything is MOA. I was impressed since the best setting shoots almost as good as my 22 rimfires outdoors! Next I have to figure out how to shoot slugs this good. I'm afraid to get a slug kit because I'll have to do this all over again! The NSA 24.8 slugs do the best, but not near this good.
Any one have any suggestions on how to improve these feel free to let me know!
Tom

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Not the pellets on the tin.

This is my first post after lurking a while. Was testing a few pellets including these GAMO Hunter country .22s

Got very low FPE readings when doing the math. Felt the pellet weight and thought "this feels heavy".Finally looked closely and realized the pellets in the tin were not the ones on the picture on the label. They were actually TS10s and much heavier which explained the strange readings.

So then I started peeling the label..lo and behold.. the actual pellets were revealed.
Not sure where this error happened, I guess at the factory. Bought these in Europe about a year ago I guess. But just a heads-up, it is possible! I suppose end of production run and mislabeled, but weird there's a sticker over a printed tin.

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So much information

October....
I joined bc of the information.
Not long afterwards; I found what I did not know that I was looking for.
The information.
Not just about airguns and pellets.
More than that.
The information that let's you know; you are on a righteous path.
Whether it be to acquire insane accuracy, or the ability to acquire a bond.
Finding both now; I know that insane accuracy ultimately boils down to the shooter.
Same goes for the ability to acquire a bond; it's the shooter.
Now factor in a bond as not just with people.
A pellet to setup that works great: a bond.
The weather conditions and a shooter's mood: another bond.
Only since I've been here have I figured out that it's a community like ours that has one of the greatest bonds there is: the bond of striving to have fun with all of this information.
So this is just a post for everyone:
Take all of the information you can find on everything; think REALLY hard on it, then put it all in the back of your mind and remember to have fun.

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Targets  SOLD Cat’s Meow Field Target for sale

I am selling a new Cat’s Meow field target. Set for up to 20 fpe. It comes with 2) reducers of your size choice.
It is in MHO the best target on the market. Price is $130 plus shipping. I can make other targets of your choice of style. Any questions please message me.

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Ballistics Trueing

I'm pretty stumped here...

I'm shooting my first NRL22 match this weekend, so I went to the range this week to true the gun in Strelok. I've been using the app for a while so I'm familiar with it, however this is the first time I've had access to a real range and the first opportunity to test what it's saying out to any good distance.

The gun is a .22 Impact M3 with the heavy liner, shooting 34gr Javelin / H&N Heavy slugs at ~990 fps. I verified the velocity with two different chronographs (FX wireless and a ProChrono). Strelok is setup with all the correct info on the gun and ammo (0.118 BC @ G1), re-checked the scope height and everything (though this has little impact down range).

I zeroed the gun at 50 yds. Trust but verify... checked the targets with my range finder and good at 50 and 100. According to the app, it's 6.9 MOA from there to 100 yds. Well, it's not. It's 5.5. I went back to check my 50 yd zero and it hadn't moved. I had the chrono at the range and velocities didn't change. Tried both slugs, both sitting at 5.5 MOA at 100 yds.

The Strelok trueing feature wasn't even able to calculate a BC adjustment. The velocity adjustment was 1092 fps!! Like I said, verified 990 with two different chronos. But the new adjustments don't lie. I picked a target at 70 yds after the adjustment, 1.6 MOA, and it was dead on. So I'm confident this will work for the match... but I just don't get it. I also don't know if it will hold out to 150/200. I have access to a 200 yd range and might play around after the match.

I played around with other drag functions in Strelok and nothing really made a difference of more than 1/2 MOA at 100. I picked some random bullet in the list and it did get me to 5.8 MOA, but that's not reliable.

Thoughts? Anyone experienced the same?

PCP Rifle  SOLD Evol Mini .22 with PSR Lite stock Reduced price $1950 shipped!

Typical bomb proof build from Evol. The rifle is accurate and in excellent shape. It’s currently tuned to shoot the Hades around 880 and the GTO’s at 960. Below are the chrony numbers for each. Will come with one mag and will ship in original box. I’ve got my eye on another rifle, but need to move one first. $1950 FF Shipped and insured to the lower 48. Feel free to message me and call me to discuss the rifle.
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Optics  SOLD Meopta Optika6 5-30 x 56 FFP MRAD **Sold**

Got this scope in 2020, spent 7-8 days time with it at the range that year. Same story for 2021. Hasn't been out of the house since probly Sept of 21. Picked up a scratch that I drew over with a sharpe. Does include 34mm rings. Selling because I"d like to do a bit of fishing this year and Fly Fishin' ain't cheap either. I will definitely take this to a gun shop and have it checked over before sending it out. If interested will split shipping within the USA.

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PCP Rifle  NLA Zboria Kozak Tactical 450/220 .22 bundle

Zboria Kozak Tactical 450/220 .22 w both fill probes, paperwork, 2 mags, FX stackable .25 mod, UTG bipod and 2x16-42 IR SFP scope and mounts. $825 or gun alone for $675 TYD OBO. PayPal FnF.
Extremely accurate and efficient with 18gr and 25gr JSBs. Hate to let it go but my Crown 22/25/30 gets all the air time w more shots per fill and I’m stalking another airgun (shocking!)
Awesome lil hitter from UKR.....get em while you can sadly. Ergo once I sell enough to hit my $ goal this will be happily kept lolz.
Possible trade for complete NV, IR LRT scope, Nomad2-3 LN, Crown ST chassis, RAW laminate Y/R/Blu stock w riser, RAW chassis w furniture or PCPs but cash is priority right now.
Pics coming msg until uploaded please.
Thank you,
Keahi
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Long range big bore

Something i have always wondered about and havent been able to test yet, you can see online firearms like a 458 socom shooting subsonic 600 yards plus for deer hunting and dropping deer on the spot.

Wouldnt this be possible for a big bore airgun? People shoot subsonic 457 300gr projectiles accurately long rang at 800 fps from powder burners, whats the difference for an airgun? Is it just a quality issue?
What reason would essentially the same projectile going the same speed be accurate with powder caused expanding gas and not behave the same for hpa?

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PCP for experiment

Hey all, it’s been years since I’ve been on here but I have a serious question. I’ve been interested in Airgunning since I was like 10, (now 21) I was nearly killed in a house fire last year and lose my right hand plus the majority of the functionality in my left. Unfortunately my dreams of buying a nice pcp once I had “adult money” really seemed out the window since my accident up to today. I think I might have a solution though, if I work with my prosthetics guy and the founder of one tech company, I believe I can design something that would allow me to shoot again. I will need a pcp to get started on this project so that I might start a prototype for a contraption that will allow me to pull the trigger. Obviously I don’t want to spend too much for the event that this might not succeed. I’ve been out of the loop since Ted stopped posting regularly, so my question is what options do I have for a decently accurate gun. I’d be open to something pre owned as well, but I don’t know where to find that sort of thing. I was always a big fan of fx but I really don’t know who makes the best stuff these days. My dream since I was a little kid was to become a consistent sub moa shooter and even with no hands I’m still trying to make it a reality. Tia

1st 100y Experience

Am I a cool kid now?🤣
It was NOT easy.
Setup the 100 yard first; nice trek🥴
Put an old beer can I found nearby on a branch to hold it in place.
Setup the old spinners with some fresh white tape for visibility sake.
And a shotgun hull I found on a twig.
Took the newer black spinners to the usual 50.
Found some more debris for targeting.
A red and a green plastic bottle cap.
The snowpeak; I am still somewhat getting used to(I keep changing the accessories)
She did fine at 50 after I got comfy.
The Lothar.....ooohhhh👀
What a BEAST!!🤯
50 YARDS WAS PRETTY MUCH NOTHING!
And the shot count🥴
After 75 yards....
Whole new ball game...however in the joy of getting ready to go to the range...I had forgotten to grab the Lothar's preferred pellets🤦‍♂️
I grabbed my closest option.
Benjamin 10.5g HP
It took some dosing for sure.
But I was able to get some dings in and was able to slay that old beer can😆
The shotgun hulls stood no chance as well🥰
Stayed out there a good 6 hours just plinking and enjoying the weather🤗
Plenty of pest birds around to try for.
But I opted to wait for a meal.
2 pairs of ECD at different intervals. I made sure to take out the female first bc the males seemed frisky; so I knew they would wait and not fly away for the downed female; thinking it was playing coy. They both did, both times. Got 4💪
Time to go make dinner!🤗

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Things that cause inaccuracies on the FX Chronograph - Experiments and Results

Some of my conversations with @Ballisticboy have been enlightening and made me want to experiment with the FX Chronograph to see what causes it to give erroneous results. I did three shots each with each of the 21 experiments to see what makes the Chronograph read incorrectly. Here are the basic results:
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Here is some pictures of how I did the tests:
Test #1 - Baseline - 1/4" below the moderator and even with the muzzle:
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Here is test #2 with the Chronograph pulled toward the gun by 2":
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Here is test #3 with the Chronograph pulled back 8":
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Here is test #4, where the Chronograph is moved 2" away from the Muzzle:
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Here is test #5, where the Chronograph is 8" away from the Muzzle:
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Here is Test #6, where the Chronograph is 2" below the barrel:
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This is test #7 is where the Chronograph is 8" below the barrel:
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Here is test #8, that is supposed to be about 6 degrees, but is actually about 8 degrees:
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Here is test #9, where the Chronograph is facing down by 11 Degrees, but in this experiment, we are closer to 14 Degrees:
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This is test #10, where we are angled downward by about 23 degrees:
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Test #11 is where we are angled down by 45 degrees. This is actually about 43 degrees:
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It turned out that it was facing the table, so I wasn't that hopeful that I was going to get a reading. I didn't, but here is how it looked for the first shot:
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I moved it out to the edge for the next two shots, and it didn't read any of them:
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This is Test #12, where the Chronograph is facing 6 degrees to the right:
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Here is Test #13, where the Chronograph is facing 11 degrees to the right:
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Here is Test #14, where the Chronograph is turned 23 Degrees to the right:
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Here is Test #15, where the Chronograph is facing 45 degrees to the right:
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For Tests 16-19, the setup looked like this. I used a REALLY BIG piece of cardboard to make sure that I wasn't passing "reflections" around the side:
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Something else to note about this picture is that I put boards under the back side of the step-ladder so that the plane of the target was as close to 90 degrees to the muzzle as possible.

Finally, my last couple tests were like this, with the box covering the end of the barrel while I was testing:
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I was rather surprised by the consistency of these results. Obviously when it gets off by 45 degrees, it stops working, but that is to be expected. I must say that I was surprised that it was able to read sometimes when the cardboard was only 3" from the muzzle. What are your thoughts about the results of this experiment??

Cheers!

Jonathan

What If

What if you could build the unicorn PCP what would it be? What kind of stock would it have what kind of ammo whould it shoot? What would be the perfect spec?

Im assuming thats why so many people have so many diffdent PCP's because there is never one gun that is best at everything. Each gun is designed to be very specific for its function. I guess if you have a general gun it would just be mediocre at everything and not great at anything.

10.3 gems i am missing

Looking for 10.3~g in .177
Have a few, wondering what others are to be had😅
My Lothar likes 10.~s🤷‍♂️🤗
*I stated a while back that i had nothing from FX.🤦‍♂️forgot that @JohnTaylor blessed me with the FX pellets pictured 🥴🎩🤙

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FX Panthera - glad I purchased it…..

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Those of you that follow my posts know that I am fortunate to own several high quality air rifles.

I was somewhat on the fence about ordering a Panthera, but now that I have had it for 6 weeks or so, I am really glad I purchased it.

The 700mm .22 is tuned for the ZAN 30.5 Gr slug shooting at 1060 fps and if I do my part, it strikes where I am aiming every time.

Because I like to do my set-up on my indoor range at 18 yards (my close zero), the far zero is 76 yards, translating to a 3” total arc from 18 to 101 yards. I can get a full 18 shot mag through before it drops off the reg now set at 162. For those interested, I have the Macro adjuster set at 23 and the Micro at 3 1/2.

While one wouldn’t want to carry it through the woods (I have it fully weighted) you wouldn’t have to. Find a stump to set it on and any squirrel within 125 yards that passes through the lense of the Sightron 10-50x60 scope should be nearly automatically dead.

And while really long with the added moderator, it is extremely quiet for the power output as one mostly hears only the hammer strike.

A very special purpose rifle indeed, but deserving of a space in many airgun enthusiast’s collection.

Compressors  NLA (2) Hill Pumps

$100 + Shipping (1) Hill MK4 and (1) Hill MK3. Both have Dry Pac Systems and Foster quick disconnects on end of hose. I Got a tank and do not use these. I am selling as if they need resealing. I actually believe one is fine and the other I put a reseal kit in but it does not seem to work as I likely needed to secure something I did not. Anyway, if you can work on pumps I believe you will just need to readjust one and purchase a reseal kit for the other. If you want to buy let me know and I'll get a price on shipping so you can decide.
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