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$8,000 Squirrel, the continuing of saga HogKiller

One picture is worth $8,000 which is what this darn thing has cost..conservatively.
Maverick VP 600mm barrel, JSB Match Diabolo Exact King MKII Heavy .25 Cal, 33.95 Gr, 890fps, 120 yards. #2 reg 124bar, Transfer port on P, Huma Slug probe, #7 on the dial, Trigger Cam on gun but some fool forgot to turn it on so ... video is after the fact. If you look at the one of it on its side, on the top of the shoulder at the base of the neck. I watched for this little sucker for an hour and it finally popped up a few times. And of course a pic of the mighty hunter with his trophy. One shot of the distance of this, my friend Pete is over to the right of the entrance, at the end of the gray log. It was actually poking up above the log, It sort of sounded like I hit it but it just fell over, like you see in the first pic

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Fatboy 2.0 with extention issue

I'm running an Air Venturi .25 . I'm shooting jsb hades 26.54 gr pellets in-between 870fps -850fps.
So I've shot this with the Tanto and now the Fatboy. It's shooting tighter groups (out to 60yds) no point of impact shift when changing from one to the other.
Here is the issue bought the fatboy extension got it on today and wow really quiets the gun down..... But at 20 yds I have a 2 in drop, tight group, but 2 inches is alot I'm assuming the weight is causing the shroud to droop.
Is there a fix ie another barrel band ? Or just leave the extension off?
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Adjustable Trigger Troubles?

Friends, I have an air arms pro sport in 177 cal. She has been an amazing and accurate shooter and only to get better by the work from nitro crusher. I have installed a while back a Rowan adjustable trigger. And I had no trouble with it in regards to adjustment and/or the PS's accuracy.

But a few days ago I felt the shoe move a little bit in the different direction so I took the trigger guard off readjusted it tightened it back up reinstalled the trigger guard and went back to shooting the same way I always do and that's off bucket and sticks.

Upon my first couple shots they were all over the place at 25 yards where it's usually grouping moa. So what little bit of hair I have left I was pulling it out wondering what happened. So I made sure my stock screws are tight my scope rings were tight. I haven't dropped my rifle, I haven't bumped the scope, nothing.

So while adjusting the trigger shoe to where I felt comfortable I tightened it back up again and it started grouping just a little bit better. Then I was wondering is it because the position of the trigger shoe while shooting. Meaning every time I made an minute adjustment to the shoe itself in very small increments my groups opened up dramatically. When I say dramatically I am saying like an inch to a inch and a half and not even close to my point of impact.

So my question is will the adjustment of turning the trigger shoe from left to right in minute small increments will it affect my actually that greatly? And if that is so, why? And again if that is so what is there to be done about it? Because my last two groups that I shot today it seemed like it had to settle in for some odd reason and maybe that's the case. But it seems like it changed how light I have to hold it now the whole rifle while it's in the sticks. It seemed like it also changed the pressure of my cheek weld. I'm really at a loss to the point where I wanted to beat her against the tree but I felt better of it wiped her down and put her away. Any and no help will be greatly appreciated.



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Returning foreign-made Asscssories

I got a real education about returning items purchased on Ebay, as I was shopping for a stock for my Crosman 1322.

My first choice was the AR package from Buck Rail. But their key component - the AR lower was OOS. So I purchased a "special" aluminium stock from a firm in Germany for $54.

Then I discovered a cheaper plastic stock domestically. Buyer's regret set in and I decided to order the plastic one and then send back the aluminium one.

The German stock arrived on Wednesday. It weighed as much as the pistol. I informed Ebay of my desire to return the part. Permission was instantly granted and a return number and address were provided. I was instructed to obtain my own shipping label.

Yesterday I shopped for a shipper. My first choice was UPS. Their cheapest shipping rate for 1.4 lbs to Germany was $305. USPS's was hard to determine but it seemed to start at $50 for International 1st class.

Lesson learned.

P.S.

When I attempted to return a SIG P-226 air pistol I discovered that the do not accept refund returns, only warranty returns. I ended up repairing the broken one myself.
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Nice fat groundhog!

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played cat & mouse with this guy the past 2 days. Missed him yesterday at 125 yds, this afternoon i seen him from my porch and tried to get closer, not sure what spooked him but when i got to where i wanted to be he was gone. Go back to my porch swing and half hour later there he is, make another attempt and a car comes by and spooks him, go back to my perch and he reappears, this time he sees me and runs, i stay there for 30 minutes and nothing, i finally give in and retreat only to get back to my lookout and there he is. This time i take a different approach and make it to the tree i want to shoot from, he is quartering away hard so i take aim at the back of his ribs and send it. Entered just in front of left hind leg, he rolls down the hill and by the time i reached him he was taking his last so i gave him a final between the eyes. 77 yd shot, FX Wildcat mkl .25 cal shooting FX 33.95 ammo. Thanks for looking.

Looking for the elusive tune

Unable to get to the range today, I setup my rifle, rests, remote trigger and Triggercam in my kitchen looking out the window. Watching my reticle for movement at 32X dry firing with the remote trigger showed only the slightest movement, a fraction of the center dot reticle which I believe is .1 mil, so a fraction of .1 mil. If I held onto the bottle I saw absolutely no movement, so perhaps another set of rubber bands for the front rest.

I’m going to be shooting roughly 19 different pellets and slugs at fifty yards measuring velocity at the current regulator setting (145 BAR as measured by a HUMA regulator testing gauge) and noting precision. Once I find a few that are showing reasonable precision I will then do another test at various hammer spring settings. As the group of pellets gets smaller I will test those at various regulator settings tweaking the hammer spring tension to see if I can improve the precision.

Slugs after the baseline test will most likely have to be tested at various regulator and hammer spring settings, so I’ll be spending a great deal of time at the range looking for the elusive tune for a select group of projectiles.

I may end up with different hammer weights or springs and likely try the adjustable HUMA regulator. Some have said the RAW regulator holds or is more consistent than the HUMA, but because the HUMA is a bit smaller it offers a bit more plenum volume. I’m not sure it is enough to be significant, but I also will test the latest HUMA regulator to see if indeed the RAW regulator is more stable.

The good thing there is so much testing ahead of me is it allows me to hold off with another air rifle purchase for the time being. However, looking is not expensive.

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0db felt... pull it?

Anyone's 0db poking felt hairs into the chamber? Mine has some after just 10 shots from new out the box (counted 4 fiber strings so far) (was able to focus one of em for pic). My donnyfl's all did this until the whole felt completely blew. I pulled them all out afterwards. But maybe this is normal for 0db...? Should I pull the felt like I did my donny's?
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impact m3 valve sometimes wont seat during tuning

Searched for a thread with no luck. My issue is during tuning. Once the V.A is set at 4.5 to 4 lines I have no issues. During tuning with the valve passed 4.5, sometime wont seal once the 1st reg gets to 160-165. First reg set 150 2nd 70. I can just tune til the 1st reg gets to 170 but Im wondering if others have seen this. Closing the valve adjuster stops the leak but just curious what others have found. To me the valve should still close with 70 bar in the plenum and 160 waiting to fill it.

Pellet Thoughts

Well,I Finally got my Xisico .22 underlever from Flying Dragon. I could use some initial guidance on pellets. Mike informed me that the gun likes 5.52, and between 14 and 16 grains. My purpose is hunting/pesting. Your advice is deeply appreciated as I am just starting out, ESPECIALLY if you also own this model of airgun. Thanks in advance, and God bless.

Daystate Red Wolf Owners/experts.... opinions needed....

So been testing this rifle for a week now. Been doing lots and lots of reading. Do theses numbers look a little low?? I been testing all types of pellets. This is what I got up so far. All shots were taken at 50 yards. Also sames the more I shoot it the better it gets look at the first pictures were today's shots at the range at 50 yards. JSB 25.3 RD sames to be the best pellet at high power. I also noticed today I am getting around 70 shots on high power at this settings. I tried low power with the 18.1 but they will not group no matter what I do. Nothing shoots good at mid power either except sometimes the FX 25.3 do ok. Finally want to thank my wife for a great fathers day gift. Yes the rifle is used but it's in great condition just like new. Like I said it's definitely coming together. Thanks for the info.

Today's shots at the range JSB 25.3 RD......
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How close to your house before you consider it a pest?

At my place my Jack Russell keeps the squirrels at least 15-20 yards from the house. They don’t come anywhere close when he’s out patrolling. The old chicken barn, where I store my tractor, chainsaw, bicycles, etc. Is funky and I need to update it. The front of the structure is 40 yards, the rear 50 yards away from my deck. Some reds have decided it’s their place, and I haven’t had the heart to permanently evict them, yet. Particularly when they leave me, on occasion a black walnut on the steering wheel of my Kubota.🙈 Or on my chainsaws, etc. The woodchuck that’s been popping out behind the barn?💀 It’s on the hit list, very next opportunity? I’m sending…💥

New pumper in the house

There's a new pumper in the house. Meet my new / old Smith & Wesson model 77A this is a adult size pumper. And built like a tank. The manual says you can pump up to 20 times. So I gave it a test. I haven't shot it yet On the range, but plan on it within the next few days.

Chronographed and tested for velocity today.
Pumps……..Velocity
2…………….260
3…………….347
4…………….376
5…………….409
6…………….469
7…………….503
8…………….532
9…………….549
10……………556
11……………566
12……………573
13.............581
14.............597
16.............615
17.............632
18.............650
19.............671
20.............698

The 77A is significantly easier than a Benjamin or Sheridan on 10 pumps, going to the 20 pump max was easier than expected

The lever arm length from rear of pump arm to the pivot pin on a Benjamin model 317 is 13 inches. On the SW -77A, it measured 18 inches more leverage easier pumping.
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New member - Going to be getting a PCP soon. Thoughts?

Hello AN!
New to the updated world of airguns. Used to "play" with Air back in my youth and after being in the firearm world for some time (Tinkering, Building and designing) I wanted to take a stab at something new.
I live in WA state who have cracked down on a lot of gun availability and so far has ignored air.
Wanted some advise and opinions on where to start and what to avoid as to ideas and hardware.

My list of what I want one for is a little long. I know I will need more than one to fit, prob more... then the question of where to start, List is mostly in order of my priorities to meet.

1- Like the idea of power from air. Id at least want to be able to know I can match the power of a 22. I don't hunt but feel drawn to some big bore just because.. not sure why other than its interesting (old) refined cool tech.
2- Like the auto and full auto options. Seems fun and seems something that will go away as laws (sadly) progress.
3- quiet. or semi quiet for backyard/garage use, Moderator and chambers will be my friend.
4- young kids getting into guns and training for use. I like the idea of less noise with them at least at first. Lets them concentrate on form, safety and use. I want a real gun used and not airsoft BS.
5- target accuracy.
6- some tinkering/modifications (after getting up to speed on how/what works). I can 3d print near anything I find or design so guns with a flowing around that would be great.
7- want a good value. IE I'm not cheap, I want to save where I can. But I don't want to wish I spent more later as will cost me more down the road. Used is for sure an option for me if practical. I don't need the "best", but I want the best option for me.

what I have in my head as contenders is also a wide angel as per the above. Not all fit every aspect but want to group them in best I can.
- Western rapter 357(SEMI) or .30(FULL)
- Western Sidewinder (any cal) BTW anyone know if the barrels are caliber changeable and if so cost effective?
- Hatsan Blitz 30 (power, full then another low cal for quiet and kids, etc)
- Daystate xxx Wolf (midddle road, do most)
- EDGUN LESHIY 2 ($$ no full but ticks most)
- FX Maverick (understood these were cal trappable with barrels at a reasonable price).
-Tiapan Veteran (middle road, do most)
- Rainson Edge (meets a lot of the above and cheapish. Allows a bigger bore or auto to be bought too like blitz)
- CRICKET II TACTICAL 60(Ticks a lot as well)

So with any of that, what would you say to be aware of, migrate towrd or away from and what to watch out for.
Any other options one would point me to?

My Prophet 3 is on its way, with a twist

Today I got a text from Francisco and he told me my Prophet Performance Compact - 3 (or is it, Prophet 3 Performance Compact?) 🧐

Anyways, I just looked and it should be here on 12 June (my birthday) and I opted to go with the 22 cal version. I figure for the short term I will find it a bit better than the 177, and later I get a barrel. The BRK Ranger I have in 22 covers the bottom power end.

Once it arrives I will post some photos then go down the review rabbit hole and etc. I will also do a review on my channel.

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Air Arms XTi50

Hi guys, I'm wondering has anyone heard any whispers about what dealers in the US will be getting the XTi50 once it becomes more readily available? I tried ordering direct from the UK but suppliers are reluctant to export it, the "usual" Air Arms dealers I spoke to over here have all either said they don't know if they are going to get it or when they will get it, one reputable air arms dealer even told me they weren't even aware of such a model from air arms! I have tried to contact air arms directly but my emails, tweets, and DM's have all gone ignored/unanswered. I want to part with my hard earned cash for this rifle but it seems no one wants to take it lol.

NSA Sale 12% OFF | Entire Site | Celebrating New Granddaughter

We are celebrating my first granddaughter - Skylar. She was due on June 12 and is why we are celebrating with a 12% off sale. This is for any ammo on our site and you use discount code: Skylar. We have at the top of our page too if you forget and sale is good through June 30th.

Skylar was born on June 6th at 7 pounds even. Super excited for my first son and his wife for having such a perfect and healthy baby.

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2023 TEXtreme EFT Grand Prix Match Report

Despite superhuman skills developed through decades of poorfessional writing, butchering every rule of English composition under cover of poetic license, and forsaking proven keyboarding techniques in the pursuit of ‘hunt and peck’ perfection, this will be the most challenging to compose match report in human history. Good thing I are a genuis!

The TEXtreme Airgun Sports leg of the 2023 Extreme Field Target national Grand Prix competition, anticipated to be the richest prize-listed airgun competition in Texas history, in that regard lived up to expectations. In some other regards, “not so much”.

You’d think a match director with decades experience could at least get the basics right for a competition weekend of such magnitude. You’d be mistaken.

Now in my third decade of hosting, staging and directing field target events, and third year of hosting, staging and directing extreme field target events, this ancient MD thought he had overcome the challenges of monkeying extreme field targets to a dependable level of functionality. However this past weekend proved that belief delusional.

From the get-go of Friday’s pistol match I was deluged with calls to investigate perceived and actual target malfunctions; truly Match Director HELL! Though the calls kept a-coming through mid-match, the match was eventually completed.

Once the necessary score-card adjustments were made Derrick Wall became the 2023 EFT Grand Prix Pistol Champion virtue of his perfect 60/60 score. Mind you, this was on a course thought humanly impossible to clean in the best of conditions; yet Derrick cleaned in it gusty winds. Using a .20 caliber Brocock pistol, DW won a $300 Airguns Of Arizona gift certificate, an Athlon spotting scope, and the 2023 GP Pistol Champion award plaque. Phenomenal shooting Derrick!

Tony Pellegrino captured second place with a fine 56/60, taking a $200 Airguns Of Arizona gift certificate back home to Arizona for his attempt to beat Derrick with his own pistol. Don’t spend it all in one place Tony. Correction- “Shop local”.

Steve Govedich used a borrowed .177 Thomas to capture the last podium place in the twelve shooter pistol match with an excellent 52/60. Good shooting, Steve. Reckon Jerry will accept the $100 Airguns Of Arizona gift certificate as partial rent payment on that Thomas?

Hopes that Saturday’s Rifle Match #1 might be less problematic than Friday’s pistol match proved misguided, as target issues recurred with a vengeance. By the end of Rifle Match 1 the issues weren’t confined to target-related.

As issues accrued Match Director mistakes WERE MADE that could have proven disastrous. Thankfully one decision carrying potentials for serious consequences, rendered by necessity on the spur of the moment, ultimately proved to have no effect whatsoever on placement results; some consolation after the fact for the frazzled MD. So having lost much of whatever credibility I might have had before rendering that bad decision, I hereby coin the term ‘self-inflicted Match Director wounds’.

By then in a fog-of-war trance, thankfully another decision with potentials for great damage could be postponed for logical reasons. It was.

“Postponed” proved to be until after Rifle Match 2 protested targets were investigated, two dysfunctional targets thrown out, scorecards duly credited, and Match 1 cards compared to Match 2 cards for clues to help make the postponed decision a correct one. That postponement proved not only uncharacteristically wise, but resulted in a decision to throw out one target in question for Rifle Match #1, but not throw it out in Match 2. That decision proved absolutely correct.

Not one to avoid accountability, I accept full responsibility for one MD decision being plain WRONG. Some consolation that error made no difference in any placement results; however it RIGHTLY damaged my credibility. Some issues requiring MD decisions could have been avoided; others couldn’t have. The avoidable issues fall squarely ON ME ALONE. I neither ask nor deserve forgiveness.

I’ll now repeat something I often say. Experience is not the best teacher; BAD experience is a much better teacher. Thankfully I ain’t yet too old to learn. Trust me, I learned a LOT last weekend!

With the benefit of hindsight and for what(ever) it’s worth, other than the admittedly wrong decision I believe the best decisions possible were rendered given all considerations, evidence and information available at the moment each decision was required.

On a lighter note, with all the shooting, investigations and scoring completed, we finally had Rifle Match #1, #2, and aggregate results.

Tony Pellegrino’s 109/120 aggregate Rifle score nabbed him $1000 cash, a $250 Airguns Of Arizona gift certificate, an Athlon Heras scope, and the 2023 TEXtreme Grand Prix Rifle Champion award plaque. Tony used an Athlon scoped .30 Brocock Ghost shooting 44 grain Rangemaster pellets. Fantastic shooting, Tony! BTW, who said Barb is a better shot than you?

Carey Hymel shot 25 grain .22 Redesign pellets in his Nightforce-scoped Thomas to post a 106/120 aggregate score for second place in the rifle competition. Carey is $500 cash, a $250 AoA gift certificate, and an Athlon spotting scope richer for his fine efforts. Great shooting, Carey!

Third in the rifle competition with a 105/120 was Jeff Cloud, shooting 25.4 grain Rangemaster pellets in his Sightron-scoped RAW HM1000X. Jeff won $250 in cash and a $250 AoA gift certificate. Excellent shooting, JC.

Derrick Wall posted a 104/120 for fourth place, shooting 56 grain Zan pellets 875 FPS in his Athlon-topped .30 Daystate Delta Wolf. He added a $250 AoA gift certificate to the $300 certificate associated with his Pistol Champion award. Good shooting, Derrick.

Caleb Dickinson’s 102/120 got him the last Rifle podium place, and a $200 AoA gift certificate. Caleb shot 33.95 grain pellets in his .25 Daystate Red Wolf equipped with an Athlon scope. Congratulations Caleb.

All podium placers in the Pistol and Rifle competitions also won insulated aluminum award tumblers courtesy of Morrill’s Country Store, Casie Morrill, and Billy Davison. Billy also rustled up all the Athlon Optics donations.

A huge thank you to Airguns Of Arizona for all your sponsorship support of TEXtreme Airgun Sports events, the cash and gift certificate prizes, and the group dinner Saturday evening.

Also many thanks to Athlon Optics for donations of the Heras BTR rifle scope and two spotting scopes. As you can see in the results, Athlons were used to win more Athlons!

Thanks to Art Womack for assembling insightful spreadsheets detailing hit-percentage and Difficulty Factor information broken down by shooters, targets and lanes. Great work, Art!

Jerry Cupples donated PelletGage notebooks schwag. Thank you Jerry.

TEXtreme Airgun Sports donated TEXtreme insulated tumblers and a personal blender (incapable of producing frozen margaritas) to the schwag cause.

Thanks to everyone else that contributed to the TEXtreme 2023 EFT Grand Prix competition weekend.

Lastly, my sincerest apologies for the Match Director bobbles.

Happy Shooting,
Ron Robinson (Match Director)

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