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Other  What would we like airgun manufacturers to focus on in the future.

What would we like to see airgun manufacturers focus on?

  • Precision

    Votes: 27 52.9%
  • Power

    Votes: 13 25.5%
  • Efficiency

    Votes: 24 47.1%
  • Modularity

    Votes: 3 5.9%
  • Weight

    Votes: 10 19.6%
  • New designs

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Refreshed old designs

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • New parts

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • Customer service

    Votes: 7 13.7%
  • Quality over quantity

    Votes: 25 49.0%

As the title states, "what would we like airgun manufacturers to focus on?" Pick your poison and please express the reasons why you chose what you did.

Taipan  Taipan Veterans setups

I'm always looking for inspiration. So on that note let's post some pictures of our Vettys. I'll start
.177 Compact
Love this little guy.
Absolutely shoots great 10.3 fx pellets at 870.
My little backyard destroyer.
Utg 4-16x44 30mm op3 scope.
Sumo moderator.
Purchased used think original stock was swapped for a Ukraine made compact stock which I prefer. They have a more hand crafted look and feel.

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Porous Moderator Design Tests

Yesterday at this post we started kicking around this idea. So I made one and tested it.
Not bad. 😉


Here is the audio, stripped and set up for comparison, three shots bare, three shots unwrapped and three shots wrapped.


Here is the graph of that audio. I cut the graph off at 10 kHz. It lets us see what is going on better at the lower end of the spectrum.

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PCP Rifle  SOLD Daystate Red Wolf (Red laminate)

For sale, .25 cal Red Wolf HP.
Beautiful hand selected red laminate stock. Chosen for its perfect combination of silver, gray and red. (yes, the wife added this!)

In 2022, at EBR, this rifle placed 2nd in the Sportsman Division 75/100 yard Benchrest with the wife behind the trigger. At EBR in 2023, she shot it in the 100 yard Benchrest finals in the Pro Division.

Currently the rifle is set up with the newest Helliboard and the latest High Flow Valve. The original Daystate GC2 board is included.

The rifle will also come with 2 batteries, battery charger, battery tester, 1 .25 cal magazine, a single shot tray, extra O’rings and extra battery lead.

$2300.00 PayPal F&F, shipping is included to the lower 48.

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65 gal pickle barrels and FT/EFT targets

Time to put on your thinking caps
I’ve got 10 each 65 gal heavy duty barrels
Plan is for two different types of target / pellet backstops:

#1 saw in half - create two half shells with large cut outs so I can put them over FT / HFT targets to minimize ricochet and also achieve sound reduction. - fishing for ideas

#2 Entire barrel standing upright and filled with rubber mulch or? This will be used to mount a splatter burst or other paper target on the front so I can slam .25 or .30 leads out to 100 yards w/o annoying my neighbors - so quiet is paramount - also fishing for ideas

Pics helpful as I’m a visual learner
Bonus is lead capture for reuse and recycling etc

N/A  Dual Use PCP

Am looking to buy my first PCP to shoot HFT and, if possible, try benchrest. I understand that dual purpose guns are a compromise at best, but would be interested in seeing what might be available. .177 predominates in HFT, is it suitable for benchrest or is .22 preferable?Or am I better off buying a discipline specific gun. If I were to buy one specific for HFT (I like the wood stock and traditional looks) it would be a Daystate Revere. Thanks, Tom

FX  FX 380mm barrel...... much louder?

Hello , I would like to put a 380mm barrel on my FX Crown , instead of the 500mm installed. I wonder how the noise will be increased ; is it a big difference between the 380mm and the 500mm in .30 cal , shooting at the same power. At the same time I think that the shorter barrel must be stiffer and could support a heavier moderator ?
Thanks.

AS OTHERS HAVE SAID ABOUT SELLING THEIR PB'S

I've been noticing that I'm not the only one who's sold their PB's, BTY I never knew what PB meant till this site. I also sold most of my PB because I never shoot them because I have no place to shoot them unless I drive up into the mountains. It's just as much fun shooting my pellet guns, .177 to .50 cal here at home.

Case closed. :)

My experience Barrel Lapping and what I’d do differently next time

Hello Friends,

I just wanted to share my experience performing a barrel lap on my Western Airguns Rattler .357.

Equipment used:

  • Tipton Ultra Gun Vise
  • J Dewey .30 Nylon coated 36” rod
  • J Dewey .30 cotton bore mops (lap compound)
  • J Dewey .357/9mm bore tips (cleaning)
  • Dewey Universal Patch Loop
  • LGBA - Converts .30 & .35 cal. Rods to accept 8/32 brushes
  • No name cotton swabs
  • Wooden dowel from Ace hardware
  • JB non embedding bore compound
  • JB bore bright
  • Frog Lube Super Degreaser (Solvent)
  • Frog Lube Paste (CLP)
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I had removed my barrel and placed it in the vise. Cleaned it extremely well with patches using frog lube degreaser. Having only shot it once : ( and it being a PCP it didn’t need penetrating oil. I mention this because in all the tutorials I watched it appears Kroil is routinely used..

I was in a bit of a tough situation though. The moderator was attached with blue loctite and I live in a small apartment in the city with no good ventilation and nearly no workspace. I decided I’d leave it on instead of busting out a blow torch. This proved to be fine, although likely a foolish decision simply due to making things more complicated than they needed to be and overestimating the hassle/difficulty in removing it. Once it was sufficiently clean, I measured a piece of dowel so that when everything was positioned against the wall it would extend through the suppressor and slightly into the barrel to prevent the brush from accidentally exiting the barrel and damaging the crown.

I measured the total distance to the end of the dowel which came to 27”. I took some painters tape and marked 9” and 18” on the Dewey rod.

I started by applying a heavy dose of JB bore compound onto a .30 mop and proceeded to perform 33 back and forth strokes to the 9” marker watching to ensure the rod was rotating with the rifling and attempting to keep it somewhat centered. There was some resistance, but not a lot.

Almost immediately the bore mop darkened. I continued until I reached 33 strokes, at which point I applied more jb’s to the mop, removed the 9” indicator and performed another 33 strokes, this time extending to the 18” indicator. I removed the mop completely half way through, and rotated it 180 degrees before reinserting it knowing my Dewey rod had a slight bend. Upon completion, I applied more compound, removed the 18” painters tape marker on the rod and performed another 33 strokes, this time just going from breach all the way to the end where I hit the dowel.
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I then performed standard cleaning alternating with dry patches and degreaser patches until they came out clear. I took a video with a borescope to document the change after each step of the process.

Next up was the bore bright. This time I decided (due to it being less abrasive), I was going to do full length passes for every stroke. I set it up, same as before with the dowel blocking me from accidentally exiting the barrelI and damaging the crown. I did 60 strokes and then just like before, cleaned the barrel, alternating wet and dry.

I immediately noticed a difference where the patches moved much more smoothly through nearly the entire barrel until they approached the crown where I hadn’t done any polishing.

Again, I took a video to document the change.

Finally I applied Frog Lube paste to the inside of the barrel. Somewhat interestingly, even though I’d thought I cleaned the barrel really well already, it appeared there was still dirt and grime that was only removed when using the paste.

I cleaned until dry and again took a video.

Here’s what I would’ve changed:
  1. I would’ve purchased bore mops that were specifically designed for 9mm/.357. Unless I’m missing something, the lapping occurs roughly in the same way filing a piece of wood or metal works. It abrades the surface using progressively finer grit to smooth the surface. But in order to do this, pressure must be applied. Simply because a smaller bore mop could be used to clean, doesn’t make it a good tool to lap. High pressure is likely needed to improve results so I would’ve gone with a larger diameter mop. It also probably does a poor job of getting to polish the grooves.
  2. I would scrap the x strokes to this point of the barrel, then y to this point, z to this point and just do full length strokes. I fail to see why (if performed correctly) doing less near the crown would somehow produce better results.
  3. Check out the videos/pics to see the results : )

Thanks for your time friends! Happy to hear anyone else’s thoughts/experiences as I’m about to perform this process again on two of my Leshiy 2 barrels.


Prior to the process:
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Post Process:

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After an application of Frog Lube:
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Western Airguns  Warning in max preassure in bottle with sidewinder .30

When my Sidewinder arrived it was shooting JSB 44.7 grain at 80 fpe. That was with regulator set at 140 bar.

I was happy.

Later on I decided to fill the bottle below the 300 bar advertised as maximum, but above 250 bar. I went to 275 bar.

Then I decided to try lower power and went to 630 fps. Then I tried to give it back to 80 fpe..... And did not went up above 820 fps !!!!

Yesterday I decided to bring a little bit up the regulator to 165 bar. I got only 828 fps..... No matter how much I tried to adjust it. I return it to the 828 fps.

This morning with the bottle got to 250 bar, the rifle gave me 975 fps.....

My conclusion: the valve gets partially locked with preassure on that bottle above 250 bar. That is confirmed to happen on my Vulcan 3 .30 Cal.

So..... Better not to fill the bottle of the sidewinder.30 Cal above 250 bar.

PCP Rifle  SOLD Kral NP-03

For Sale: Kral NP-03 .22 caliber. Magpul stock, Buck Rail moderator, West Hunter 1.2-6 scope. Also includes 3 magazines, single shot tray and 2 fill probes. Had it set up for Field Target but switched to a .177. $350.00 plus 1/2 of shipping. Conus only. PayPal or usps money order. Have chrono numbers for various pellets if interested. Bipod not included. Put of gun for photos.

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I got my first coyote that wasn't in a trap! Panthera Hunter Compact .30 was R U T H L E S S

Well, boiz, like the title says - I got my first coyote in a hunting scenario rather than just shooting them in the head while they're in one of my foothold traps. Coyotes are such ninjas that about 13 years ago when they killed my cat I got so tired of unsuccessfully hunting them with rifles that I learned to set foothold traps. Trapping is an art in itself, but I always wanted to have the accomplishment of actually shooting a coyote in its environment with a rifle. And that is exactly what I did last night.

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So basically the homie Erik got a rabbit that night, & cleaned him for the freezer. That obviously put rabbit scent everywhere. We were then playing around shooting mice with thermals and I had my NODs (PVS-14, Gen3 WP with a super high FOM) on. Saw the neighbor like 3 doors down (250 yards?) shining a flashlight around like he was looking for something. Heard a few airgun shots. Maybe he shot at this (or another) coyote? Anyway Erik was about to leave so we took a jaunt through the forest and saw 2 rabbits, which got a pass since we didn't feel like skinning 'em. Then Erik noticed another critter in the long grass using his thermal (Infiray phone attachment https://amzn.to/49ynxA7 ). I walked out into the path and there was a coyote just standing tall, sniffing the air. With black hot mode on my ATN Thor 4 he stood out like none other! Time went into slow motion. I took a standing offhand headshot at him at 50 or 60 yards. Straight down. The Panthera Hunter Compact .30 sent that Hybrid slug right into the back of his brain. He was doing a bit of a death waggle on the ground so Erik and I both just started dumping on him. Had I not been so excited I maybe would have thought about the pelt and maybe not allowed us to riddle him with holes...lol

Here are some more pics. He was a huge coyote. Probably about 50 lbs and 50" from snout to tail:

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EDIT: I did shoot one with the .22 Maverick about 2 years ago but he was across the river and I didn't recover him. I am pretty sure the went down, but not 100%. So to me that is not a confirmed kill, whereas this is 100000000% confirmed! Haha

Traditional Rifle  NLA HW 50s .177 in a LH CS800 stock***SOLD***SOLD***

Up for sale is the break barrel described in the title. Has an ARH shroud/weight installed as shown. Condition is 98-99% and it shoots AA 8.4s amazingly well. I’m an underlever guy and this one never gets the love it deserves. Will make some lefty a great shooter. Price is $600 shipped. P/P
f/f or add fees. Scope/rings not included. Thanks for looking. Uj
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Traditional Rifle  SOLD Feinwerkbau FWB 300S .177 in eye-catching furniture

Serviced with Match Master tune (strip, clean, replace seals, parts, mainspring, with relube) by David Slade of Airgunwerks. Ready for many more years of excellent service. See photos for condition and the amazing figure to the walnut stock. Shooting average 575 fps with JSB Exact 8.4gn diabolos

Asking $650 plus shipping to conus only. I'm experienced in shipping rifles in a well-prepped and protected way so they arrive pristine.

Preferred payment is via Paypal (family and friends or you pay fees). Will accept your cashiers check or USPS MO.

Thanks for looking!



Matt - mattbrackettart(at)gmail.com

617 nine21 one883

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Traditional Rifle  SOLD WTS Beeman R10 San Rafael .20***SOLD***

Up for sale this lovely R10 in .20 with the following: Beeman Blue Label 3-7X scope, Beeman cleaning kit and everything shown in pictures.
Stock shows some light scratches but the remaining gun and scope appear as new. Price is $450 TYD shipped in a hard case. PM with questions.
Thanks for looking. Uj SOLD
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Recording Equip  SOLD "Reduced" Scope cam set up $60

I have had this scope cam set up for sometime now and never used it, set it up and verified it works. This is a 3d print of the side shot system, includes everything you need form 1" to 34mm tubes and includes a phone adapter also. The case can be removed and your own attached.

Asking $60 shipped to the lower 48 only

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