1.- More power or less power just making turns clockwise or counterclockwise, that easy. None of the other alternatives offer that.

2.- Same accuracy or even more than all of them, both, close or far away.

3.- No possibility of electronics failure as in the Delta.

4.- No need of professional tunning on micro and macro as needed in the M3.

5.- More power than the one obtainable on the Vulcan 3 with shorter total length and less weight.

6.- No need of special but pad, nor a raiser on the scope rail, nor to buy an extra rail under the bottle as in the Delta and the M3.

7.- No need to buy a bigger bottle as in the case of the Delta Wolf.

8.- If wanted to change the caliber (22 -25, not 30), just to unscrew actual barrel and screw the new one and taking out the actual magazine and insert the new caliber one, without removing additional pieces, nor hammer, nor any kind of pin, as M3 and Delta need.

9.- No batteries that could need replacement.

10.- No software that could need update.

11.- No side level smooth nor stiff, automatic mechanism.

12.- No plastic magazine that can be broken or that can malfunction, as could happen with the M3.

13.- Certainty of accuracy with both pellets and slugs without the need of buying another barrel or additional pieces.

Well, those were the analized points to drove to go for another Sidewinder instead of for a Delta Wolf, a M3 or a Vulcan 3 700, all in .25 Cal.

Good bye for those three rifles that always had as a "very nice to eventually buy".

NO LONGER AVAILABLE .Looking to trade 3 tins of JSB exact jumbo diabolo, 22 cal. 15.89 grain pellets, 500 per tin for a total of 1500. I prefer the 18.1 grain for my Mutant long.
Will trade for like amount, 1500 rounds, of the JTS Dead Center 22 cal, 18.1 grain.
We both pay postage and we will both be happy campers.
PM or email before someone beats you to them.
Thanks for dropping in!

We are blessed to get to appreciate these guns for a time. I feel we have some responsibility to share them with each other. This is a .177 Webley Tomahawk, from the Venom factory and subsequently chequered tastefully by Jan Kraner.
The best part about this gun is the story about how I came to get it and the friendship built along the way! That may be another day...

I read a bunch of reviews online about these scopes and thought I'd give one a try, a Veyron 3-12X44. Everything said about the glass proved to be absolutely true. this one is amazingly clear and bright. I mean, it's on a par with some of the best scopes I've had, and I've spent a ton on scopes. I was really impressed. The reticle is thin, but I love that. Build quality is very good, with all controls moving just perfect, not too tight and not too light. The clicks are a bit on the mushy side, but no worse than scopes costing three times the price of admission. Parallax was spot on too. The only thing I can think of to complain about is the fov is noticeably smaller than scopes you might be used to, but hey, It's a compact scope and that's part of the nature of the beast.
Then I mounted it on my HW100 .177, which is your usual Weirauch tack driver. First groups, not too bad, but I felt something was wrong. Made up a tall target for tracking testing, which is simply a crosshair drawn on cardboard, with the cross at the bottom. You shoot at the cross, and move up the vertical line to check tracking and mil spacing. The first group was around an inch, not good for this gun. Moving up 5 mils, and the first shot was at 4 mils, then the next hit 4.5 mils, then 5 mils. Back down a couple mils, and again, the shots were strung out, til it got to the proper mark, back up to 5 mils, same thing, back to zero, and again stringing to the crosshair. I shot some subsequent groups and they were in the 1" to 1-1/2" range all at 33 yards, which is soooo much worse than this rifle is capable of. Those last 4 or 5 groups were with no changes turret changes at all. The scope just couldn't hold zero.
At this point, I mounted a SWFA SS 10X and repeated the exact same tall target test with it. Groups were all less than 1/2", most were 1/4" or just a tad larger, and I admit I was hurrying once I was convinced things were good. Moving up and down the vertical line works perfectly with each full mil movement hitting right on. So that proves it's the scope, and nothing else. I even remounted the Vector and made sure I hadn't had a loose mount or anything, and if anything, groups were worse.
So, no love here for Veyron scopes today. I dunno if I'll get another or just return it and move on. It's such a shame, because they seem to have nailed everything else, but honestly if any scope is not mechanically sound, then it's useless.
Anyone else had trouble with Veyron scopes?

I've got a Benjamin Marauder BP1764W .177 that I "just had to have" at the time that I now need to part with. I put half a dozen pellets through it when I first got it but never even mounted up the Tactical Mil-Dot TMD624X44-30SP scope I purchase to use with it. I've also got Hill Mk4 pump that needs to go as well. There are also a good number of a variety of pellets that ought to be put to use. The rife is in new condition and the whole shooting match would make for a wonderful quick way to get into PCP shooting.

So how about some ideas on moving this on to someone who will love it and put it to use?

Thanks for any informed replies. I understand that I'd need 10 posts in order to list in the classified ads. Perhaps you can help me get there. I know I'll take a licking on the rifle but better that now than someone else when I pass on.

Hugh

Scope for .17 hmr cartridge. Good shape. See pics for specifications. 65.00 shipped CONUS.
PP friends & family or add 3.5%. USPS MO, zelle. Rings not included.

Crosman 1701P Silhouette Pellet Pistol In like new condition shot less than 30

times...​

I just never used it that much. It's held air steady over the last year. No issues, no dings, scratches or scruffs.

Does not have and did not have any issues since new.

comes with original paperwork and a red dot. Comes in original box which is really lame - just a no name box.

$325 shipped CONUS (add $20 west of the Rockies), PayPal accepted.

Based on the fast infatuation developed for the Sidewinder .30 Cal, after many hours of storm thinking, finally I decided to make the bet for the Sidewinder .25.

Along the decision process I learned a that .22 and .25 are interchangeable just changing the barrel (unscrew one and screw the other) and the magazine. You just need to buy the barrel and the magazine of the other caliber for a reasonable price. So there is no renounce choosing one or the other.

.30 Cal Sidewinder may not interchange with other calibers.

I will share experience as soon as I receive it. Let's see what happens.

Interested in selling my rifle listed above. It is the 600MM green GRS model. It comes with 2 fx mags, 2 orion mags, fx slug kit, oem probe hammer etc, huma gauges, huma dual port transfer port, huma reg, a slew of fx orings, donny fl/fx moderator, thread protector. every part that has been replaced will come with the factory parts as well. Rifle is flawless, shoots amazing, just looking to get into the panthera. Asking $2500.00 + shipping in the usa. I will post pics later I am aat work and dont have any at the moment. Thanks

I’m selling my very lightly used compressor with large water separator and in-line filter. Only used about 6 times to fill my gun tank. Never run more than a couple minutes at a time. Selling since I no longer shoot. I have about $500 invested will sell for $250. Must pick up Central Florida.

Hello everyone,

Review of the Crosman Challenger 2021 .177cal 10-Meter Competition Rifle

First of March I purchased a new Crosman Challenger to shoot Wadcutter pellets at 10-Meters and have now shot over 1,000 rounds of various Wadcutter and Domed pellets with it.

I will start by saying that I would buy another Challenger without any hesitation for shooting 10-Meter targets and using domed pellets it is extremely accurate at 25-yards. It is an excellent choice for shooting 10-Meter competition. I will also state that I like everything about the rifle except the Safety mounted in front of the Trigger. I prefer a larger easy accessible side mounted Safety.

I took the rifle out of the factory shipping box, read the owner’s manual and gave it a complete review of the rifle itself. Then I cleaned it throughly and oiled all of the required areas and filled the air cylinder. Here is where the real pleasure began for me, this was the ONLY new PCP air gun that I have ever purchased that performed perfectly “right out of the box”. I haven’t even adjusted the factory setting on the two-stage match grade Trigger! I was able to shoot one hole, five shots at paper targets from the get-go. Needless to say that the Lothar Walther barrel is extremely accurate.

Over all looks and esthetics: I give it a 10-score. I like the clean simple design, the Gray and Black color scheme of the Stock material and the contrast to the metal parts.

Over all construction and fit and finish: I give it a 9-score. All machining of the metal parts I found to be very well done and a functional design. Sidelever cocking is very smooth and easy to use. The synthetic stock is very ridged and keeps the overall weight down making it very easy to handle. Cheek Riser and Butt Plate are really easy to adjust and very comfortable ( Butt Plate comes with two different length extensions ). An adjustable Shoe is also standard equipment with a long rail on the bottom of the fore arm of the stock.

The rifle comes from the factory with Crosman Diopter Sight System and uses a Dovetail rail for mounting, but I opted to install a Vector Optics scope. I will shoot it 100% of the time from a bench so a scope is more suitable for me. A big feature for me is the rifle has a Foster fitting to fill the 144cc air cylinder. Crosman states that you can get over 200 shots on a 206 bar / 3000psi fill.

The rifle is not real picky about the pellet choice ( either Wadcutter or Domed ) at 10-Meters, but it excels with the following:

Wadcutter: H&N Finale Match Heavy 8.18gr, H&N Sport 8.18gr, QSY Sports Diabolo 8.18gr and several more, go to Post #34 on this link to see all the Wadcutters that I tested:

Domed: Air Arms Falcon, 4.52mm 7.33gr, Crosman Hunting Pointed 7.4gr and others, go to Post #1 on this link to see all the Domed that I tested:

I only have one Con on this rifle and that is, I wish it had a magazine system or at least a Single Pellet Loader. When you add a scope it restricts the access to load a Pellet straight down into the breach area. Loading a small .177 pellet from the side, under a scope and between the rings becomes challenging, especially for an old fart with big fat shaky fingers.

Bottom line, I love this rifle, it is extremely accurate, very easy to handle, easy to fill the cylinder and a complete enjoyment to shoot.

@Struckat and @igolfat8 let me know if you have any questions.

ThomasT

I am not wanting to know which is best. They both have a prominent place in their specific market area.
What I am wondering or hoping to get from people who have or had both, is what is the Panthera to a person like me who hunts small game as their main activity with an air gun?
I understand that the Panthera is a purpose designed gun but does it have any attributes that would make it a superior tool for say ground squirrels or chucks?
I have been fighting buying a Panthera because to date I have not been able to see any large improvement in accuracy over an M3 that is properly tuned and it suffers some detriments like low shot count and long overall length.
I am stuck on the idea that maybe I just have a bad case of the newest shiny object syndrome.
enlighten me if you would please

AEA HP ss .22. Only 2 mags through it. Comes with 4 mags. AND a threaded endcap. Missing an 8mm fill probe (ordered) $375 shipped or if you pay shipping $350. If you want any of the accessories please let me know. Deals on: Vortex 3-9 x 40. Leupold dovetail rings. UTG Dovetail to pic rail still in box. I have too many other responsibilities at this time..it is just sitting and ready. Thinning my herd. Thank you.

I'm thinking about buying one but a little hard.
What do y'all think is it good, okay, or great.
Thank you for the time.

Purchased several years ago still in great shape. $75.00 plus shipping

As per title. I'm the first owner. Comes with all mounts, also includes an Immersive Optics specific screw in front flip cap I imported from england.

In great shape with two minor caveats:

I dropped the the windage cover once and the paint is slightly chipped.

I sanded a couple thousandths off of the face of one of the picatinny mounting screws. You can see this in the photos. Fortuneately, there are a whole bunch of extras

$250 shipped.

Just too lazy to get out of the chair after crawling around the floor all day to fix my subfloor. Still hit a two inch spinner this way two out of three times at 26 yards.

So after reading reviews of all the different makers and finding reviews all over the place, I just couldn't justify spending over 1/3 of what I spent for my gun on a moderator, aea 30/32" standard. So, seeing some good reviews, a few not, I decided to give buck rail a try. I mean, it's not gonna get you pissed if it doesn't perform right?

With that being said, I don't have a decibel reader or anything like that. All I can say is that the end results were 1) I no longer have to wear ear protection. 2) The loudest part of the shot was the impact of a 61.5 gr slug going at 1050fps and 100gr slugs or 875fps on some wood backed up by metal. So my fpe's were in the neighborhood of 145-170fpe. I can finally hear the impact of that slug and dammit it's loud! Prior to that, it was just a loud BOOOOOOM, much like a PB, and that's all I heard. Oops, I forgot about ears ringing. I reckon the sound is like slapping a table with fat heavy fly swatter. NOW, I no longer have to wear ear protection. I'm sure it would still be good practice but, it doesn't hurt my ears anymore not having them on.

Buck Rail's moderator is 100% worth the money AND more all things considered. We'll see about longevity as I literally just put it to use today.

Ataman M2R 22 cal. I got in trade with Wylie shroud 2 mags and fill probe....selling to buy compressor 700.00 shipped

Today I received an Allen Zasadny Steyr LG100. It’s a fantastic, and beautiful piece of airgun wizardry.
Only problem is I have to wait until the weekend to put it through its paces.

Stock FX M3 .25 cal comes with stock mag and aluminum side shot mag....gun is like new!
1800.00 shipped

This Teslong USB borescope was a bit of an impulse purchase from Amazon, but boy it's pretty cool. Here is my very first attempt using it. I fed it down the barrel of my Cricket II Tactical 60.


As you can see around minute 3:08 my transfer port alignment seems to be off and I'm probably leaving a few fps on the table until I correct it. I'm already thinking this is going to be a very good investment!

Dont worry or hesitate like I did. I fretted for several months and then decided to take a chance.
Ordered the mag and single shot tray on March 21
Arrived on April 3, 13 days.
Price with shipping, 47 bucks
Mine are top notch, load easy and cycle flawlessly.
Great service and answers e-mail questions post haste.
You can thank me latter,