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Daystate built in Chrono vs. Labradar

My new Daystate Alpha Wolf Safari arrived today. After initial setup, sighting in, I wanted to compare the results from the built in chronograph vs. my LabRadar.
Very different results in muzzle velocity, but the math works out that the extreme spread and standard deviations are within 1 fps of each other so the rifle is consistent.
What is puzzling is the average difference of 12.45 fps between the two measurements. So which one do I trust? Any ideas on what is causing the difference. I have my Lab radar just in front of the muzzle. Very close.
Here are the results from one mag of .22 JSB 25.39gr Redesigns. Note. This is out of the box. I have not adjusted anything on the rifle.

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956​
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944​
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956​
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960​
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955​
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Squirrels. More power, less pass-through

So I was shooting a 22 cal at about 15 FPE with dome pellets getting pass-through and a loud noise against the fence behind. My buddy has that rifle so I decided to try some 25 cal FX hybrids. It's shooting them at 54 FPE, but man it delivers that.

18 yard shot on this squirrel. It stayed in its noggin. It was still low light in the morning under a tree, so the 25% light going to the Firefly caused a low picture quality.

PCP Rifle  SOLD beeman 1357 underlever bullpup pcp $160 tyd

selling a great condition beeman 1357 underlever pcp .177. will ship in the original box.

comes with:
factory 4x beeman scope/rings
(rings and level in picture not included)
buckrail bipod mount,
a buckrail moderator,
2 mags,
single shot tray,
2 hammer springs (factory and a lighter weight one)
lighter trigger spring installed and is adjusted to light and crisp.

i removed the original shroud so the barrel wouldnt touch the barrel band/bipod mount.

when i got it the barrel had a bad crown,
Jason (nervoustrigger) gave it some of his magic,recrown/lap and polish/polished the leade/transfer port/etc...

but i lost interest with .177 after that so it has just been sitting,
still full of air for some months.

it has way too much power imo to be a .177,
heaviest pellets i have are jsb heavies,
and they were still up in the very high 900s

it has taken many hosps and starlings though :)

$160 shipped in the u.s.
paypal please.

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Mirror, Mirror on the wall, which is the fastest full Auto of them all?

OK,OK, I'm only talking about my LCS and Hatsan Blitz .30 cal. Both fully charged both with 17 rounds, used my cell phone stopwatch. Practiced a few times then went full auto.

The Blitz went through 17 rounds in 1.94 seconds. The LCS took 4.34 seconds for 17 rounds. Even with human error the Hatsan is clearly the winner by 2x.

What does this matter? Not a thing.
Who gives a rats butt? Nobody.

MOD EDIT: we do not condone any airgun for the use of self defense. Please refer to the forum rules.

However....as far as accuracy during full auto I'll choose the LCS. :)

Joe

PCP Rifle  SOLD FX Crown Continuum custom build

2 months old. 90% full fx warranty. 100% functional with zero issues. Text (870) 450-8479. PayPal only. $2,000 delivered anywhere in lower 48 USA. Serious inquiries only. 380mm barrel with superior liner. 700mm with slug liner. Westhunter 6-24x50mm FFP Illuminated reticle. Donnyfl Tanto. One 22 cal mag. Laser hole in hole accuracy. Zero issues. Gun is a ONE-OF-A-KIND and 100% perfect woking condition. Thanks for looking

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Since money IS an option in my world...

I just purchased my first airgun rated rifle scope, it's an Hammers 4-12x40 AO and yes...it's made in China but it's all I could afford so it's mounted on my HW50S and I will attempt to sight it in tomorrow if I get away from work in time. I'll let you know how that all goes and if it last I'll keep you guys in the loop on that also. I paid a few pennies under $100.00 dollars for it shipped two day air, there's a lot of reviews on these scopes...many good...some bad just like everything else reviewed on the internet. It seems well built and is of quality material...but time and use will determine just how well. Oh and it came with a one piece four bolt scope mount with a stop pin which worked well with the rifle.

PCP Rifle  SOLD FX IMPACT M3 .22

Selling My FX IMPACT M3 .22 cal Bronze 600mm barrel
No longer shooting it
Comes with SS Screw kit and the original Black ones
1 Magazine, Owners Manual . FX case , Bubble level installed, Huma Air single shot loader not yet installed and a bipod
Shoots and holds air No problems at all , I just do not shoot this anymore
$1600
Den

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HW 100 pcp

I have just purchased a hw100 laminbated Before adding the scope decided to fire 14 rounds The gun comes in the box with cylinder seperated - so screwed it on and charged it with air, Almost emptied the magazine and realised air cylinder was not screwed on far ebough - pellets were loading but not being fired Now I feel stupid and have 13 pellets jamming the barrel Can i rod the barrel to clear Any comments would be appreciated PS now the cylinder is screwed in further I get a hiss of air on firing

Different reg setting, same FPS, wildly different results?

Had my Impact M3 shooting Nielsen 24.8 OK and Zan 25.5 really well at 110 bar 2nd reg. Changed reg to 120 bar, adjusted hammer for same FPS and Zan’s were terrible and Nielsen’s better. Slugs that were good at 995 FPS now wanted 950 FPS with the higher reg.

So the upshot of all this is it seems that it’s not just one velocity per projectile for your rifle. It’s one velocity per projectile per reg setting, and any particular projectile might not perform at your current reg setting no matter the FPS.

Have others experienced this or have thoughts on it? If the above is true then this all got a lot more complex.

Optics  SOLD Athlon Heras SPR 4-20x MOA Scope- Brand New in box

For sale is a brand new Athlon Heras SPR 4-20x. Second focal plane. This was designed specifically for the air gun community. Dead eye does a super nice review of this scope on youtube. Its an ideal setup for the money. Retails for 500, asking 360 TYD. This is brand new, never mounted never fired.

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Targets  SOLD Turkey Trot Field Target

I am selling a Turkey Trot field target. I make these targets and IMHO are the best targets out there. They are rated for 20 fpe. They sell for $130 plus shipping. They come in 2) reducers of your size choice. I can cut just about any faceplates you need. All targets and parts can be interchanged and will work perfectly. There are cheaper targets out there but if you compare them you will see the huge difference. Please P/M me with questions.

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PCP Rifle  SOLD AZ tuned Jager XP .30 cal

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Up for sale is my Jager, I bought it new from RL Airguns. It didn’t shoot like I wanted it too so I sent it off to Allen to have it worked on. It has a RAW .30 cal barrel, Allen’s full shroud and it’s whisper quiet for 85 ft lbs of energy. Have the paper work of all work done to the rifle by him which totaled around $850. Only looking to sell at this time, $1250 PayPal, shipped, insured in a hard case to your location.

PCP Rifle  NLA PCP Rifles, Pistols and all equipment package

Hello everyone,
I have decided to sell my complete inventory of PCP Air Rifles, Pistols, and all related items, I plan to go back to shooting PB’s.
1) This package MUST be picked up at my home in Etoile, Texas and is so big physically it will require a small enclosed trailer or enclosed van. This might fit into an extended cab pickup truck with a Camper Cover on the bed.
2) I have just shy of $13,000.00 invested and will sell for $8,500.00 cash. Those of you that know me also know that everything I have is absolutely like brand new and well taken care of.
3) I will not sell any item individually and sold as a complete package only.
4) Way too many items to show a photo of each item but I can email you any additional pictures that you need. Just send me an email and tell me what items you wish more photos of and I will send to you. { wa5dx at yahoo dot com }
5) The quantity for each item is shown to the right of the description. In the case of the pellets not every Tin is new and full, I simply took an average.
6) ALL guns have all of the original factory manuals, equipment, supplies, etc. along with the factory boxes. I will remove the scopes and rings from the rifles so they can be placed back into the original boxes. I will leave the scope, rings, bipods, etc. on the pistols for your inspection.

Please, if you have any questions about any of these items send me an email, it is much faster, and if you would prefer to talk on the phone I will send you my home number.
Thank you,
ThomasT
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PCP Rifle  SOLD Challenger Pro.357 with Donny fl ronin price reduced PENDING

Only three mags shot through it and over 1,000 in to it will take 800 for everytjhing shipped or 750.00 shipped for everything but scope.. I added a new Magpul SL stock to it didn't like the one it came with. The Donny on it is new as well as the adapter. It can come with the scope or without.. It also comes with a can of Exact 82.01 Grain pellets and 100 99 grain Hallowpoints from Mr. Hallowpoint. PENDING

Any questions please direct them to Sonny @ 928-848-4969

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General topics

II have been want to ask these questions for a while so today I will ask.
Some time ago I saw where some fellow had made some 3d printed pellet containers wit a screw on top. I thought he was selling them but I can;t find any info on them.
Some pellets come in tins with slip off lids and picking 500 pellets out of leaves and dead grass is not a way to spend range time.

Benjamen 392 has come into my plans for the future. I would like a used wood stock model. What should I pay for one if I find it.
I just found a Sheridan and find that I really enjoy shooting it. The benjimen would be close to it and the ammo is easy to get.
Thanks.
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PCP Rifle  SOLD Huben K1 .22 great condition Sold

It was completely gone through by Kelly the Huben k1 tech. Replaced everything and rebuilt the reg. Added the pic Rail for pic attachments,put after market loading gate on it. It's been setup up for slugs. Comes with 200 28 Grain zan hallowpoints. Had a slight issue with trigger with a 3rd of a turn of two allens it was perfectly fine and shooting tight groups. Very accurate and very quite. Paid 1,575 for it will take 1,500 O.B.O

Any questions please direct them to Sonny through text or call @ 928-848-4969

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How Accurate is Accurate Enough? For Field Target

Newbie questions so I can anticipate some performance requirements to prepare for a match. I know different shooting disciplines will have different metrics for determining accuracy.

What are the typical “hit” size for the targets I can expect to find on a typical match. Are all targets have same sized “hit” area and the challenge is the distance from the shooter?

I finally got my HW35 (7.5 joules) scoped and been shooting it in my backyard. I noticed it can shoots almost one hole groups at 10m and opens to around ½ inch at 15 yards. But when I shoot at 20 yards, the group opens to 1.5 to sometimes 2 inches with flyers. Is this accurate enough for FT? I am using vintage target diabo type pellets. I have a new sample pack, but haven’t try them yet. Going to use up my 35-40 year old stash first.

Eyebox problems

Helllo my airgun friends, I'm using a Element Helix 6x24x50, a Sfp and I realy don't like the unforgiving eyebox. So I want something else. Price range about $850. I'm shooting mostly between 50 and 100 yards benchrest and very occasionally hft. Can you give me some advice? Clear glass a good eyebox and a 30mm tube is a must.
Should I stay at SFP or go for FFP
Greetings from the Netherlands.
Candiru

Daystate Revere .177 regulated

AOA purchase
I bought a dinged new rifle - it’s beautiful and the little ding reminds me to shoot more and I saved over $300.
As most people find, the reg pressure was set pretty high, so air consumption was also high. I let a talented forum member tune it for my specific field target needs.
His tune is magic, the regulator pressure and hammer needed help, TP polishing and some other valve / spring work. I have a sweet trigger with a long first stage but very crisp second stage, the polished barrel is laser beam so far. I mounted a new hawke sidewinder on it and added a Carm flip out single shot loader. It’s a pleasure to shoot offhand. Very QUIET! 🤩
Does a Daystate Revere need a professional tuner? NO! But as we all know there is a difference between factory standards/off the shelf and the subtle or even major improvements that can be gained by a skilled gunsmith/tuner. I suspect i will never miss a shot because of the gun... it's pretty much always on me "or the wind".
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