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H&N .177 slugs.

I tried these slugs in .177 when the first became available.
Accuracy did not happen for me. Decided to forget them, no further testing.

Just looking back over my notes from the last year, I'm mostly shooting H&N, pellets and slugs, in .22 plus.

In .177, I'm happy with H&N pellets but still using JSB and Zan slugs. Multiple barrels, rifles and speeds.

Anyone used H&N .177 slugs lately? Thoughts? Any design changes? Anything 🙂.

I'm keen to try the .177 slugs again but reluctant to throw money at a past failure.
Still, I'm optimistic someone has some recent experience.

Thanks Gary.

Preferred Velocities?

Hello from a Newbie to the airgun world (I'm a refugee from a very long apprenticeship in the 22 RF accuracy world)

From my reading there seem to be "preferred velocities" in the PCP guns to run certain projectiles at e.g. 890's for pellets and 930's for slugs.

Are these preferred velocities a function of projectile performance (oburation maybe, or skirt deformation or ???) or are they a consequence of barrel harmonics or something else ?

Cheers
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PCP Rifle  SOLD rainson edge x .22/.25 $350 shipped.

rainson edge x,
with the .22 & .25 barrels,
probes/wrenches,
3 magazines for each caliber,
a nice 3d printed barrel band,
and the factory (quiet) moderator.
(scope and bipod not included)

(ill throw in a new bestsight 4-16x44 ao scope if you need it,cheap but works good)

for those who arent familiar,
it has an externally adjustable reg,
and 250bar fill 500cc bottle.

bought in july,
adjusted the trigger so its crisp,
lightened the pull with a lighter weight trigger return spring.

ive taken nearly 75 pigeons and starlings with it.

in .25 running 25gn jts dead centers at about 850 it will keep a mag inside a quarter at 50.

in .22 with jts 18gn at 900 it does a bit better.

only selling to pad a new gun purchase,
and not selling my impact lol
message me with any questions/more pictures

need this sold yesterday,
ordering my uragan crushed my finances lol

will ship in the original box
$350 shipped in the us,
paypal only please.



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Snowpeak  Stoeger Bullshark .177 JSB KO 13.43

Stoeger Bullshark .177
1/21 twist
900 fps

I got the slugs late last night and did a quick chrono test/sight-in before trying them at 50 yards. I shot the left 2 Xs top to bottom and them made a scope adjustment on the right X. I loaded 10 and then 5 for the last group so one of them snuck into another hole in the last group.
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I think they're showing a lot of promise already. I'll probably play with the hammer spring and try some different velocities when the weather permits. It's looking like rain here for the next few days.

PCP Rifle  NLA FX Wildcat Mk1 .22

Shoots excellent
Airgun Revisions stainless kit installed
Huma regulator set to 110 bar.
Also huma power plenum not installed
Airgun Revisions power plenum installed on front side for higher shot count
Fx moderator and Donnyfl adapters included
4 magazines with holders.
This was my first high end pcp and I went a little crazy on extras.
Likes 14.3 CPHP at 850 right now
Scope and bipod not included
I did modify the stock so that hammer spring can be adjusted with stock on.
Feel free to ask any questions. No issues at all. Selling to buy a .25 cal
Asking 725 shipped we can discuss payment method.

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Beeman  From RD Beeman Collection

I recently had the good fortune to take part in the Rock Island Auction selling off some of the RD Beeman Museum Collection. I purchased 4 rifles in total...three R1s and an RX.
One of the R1s is a 20th Anniversary Commemorative with a 0002 stamp. Number 2 of 75 produced. Number 0001 went to the owner of Weihrauch.
The second rifle in the lot was the Prototype for this design. Both came with beautiful cases one being the Commemorative version.
I will be posting the other two rifles once I get them sorted. But for now I wanted to share these Museum pieces with our community in honor of the late Dr. Beeman.
Many people have many opinions about Doc Beeman, but one thing is for sure....he had great taste in airguns! Enjoy!

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Resources  Slugs vs pellets @ 100 yds

Want to practice more in the wind for 100 yd matches so i waited till this afternoon when the winds were gusting to about 16 mph and quite variable. Also wanted to see the difference between pellets and slugs so i took my m3 out with some 33.9 jsb and some 34.9 nsa. I shot 2 25 target cards ( with 5 sighters) 1 with pellets and 1 with slugs. No wind flags and simply adjust for wind from last target and to my surprise the slugs only won by 3 points! Has anyone else tried such an experiment to see if slugs were the advantage most of us believe them to be?

Lead pellet ban may not go ahead!

Just found this on another site!

The relevant bits....

The continued wide availability of airgun ammunition for indoor use (the large
majority of total use) would highly likely undermine any practical enforcement of the
placing on the market of airgun ammunition for outdoor use.
Alternatives to ammunition for airguns also provide unique challenges because of
the regulations governing airgun ownership. It is possible that the use of one viable
non-lead alternative in one airgun would work well, whereas its use in a different
airgun would result in exceedance of the legislative muzzle energy threshold - which
would then mean a Firearms Certificate would be required. Such effects could result
in widespread, unintended criminal offences being committed.
For these reasons, including significant practical difficulties in the ability to monitor or
enforce such a restriction, the Agency does not consider any restriction options to be
monitorable or enforceable.


Target shooting with lead airgun ammunition
The only option that could reduce risks to the environment would be a prohibition on
the use of lead airgun ammunition for target shooting. However, there are no viable
alternatives for many airguns and ammunition would still be available for sale for
indoor use. Therefore, a prohibition on use would not be practical, monitorable, or
enforceable.
The Agency was therefore unable to identify a risk management option to be taken
forward to the SEA for this use.
4.2.2 Rationale for modifying restriction options
A long-list of potential options was listed and included for consideration during
development of the Annex 15 dossier resulting in the initial restriction proposal (HSE,
2022). Based on information supplied to us during the public consultation and
comments received from the REACH Independent Scientific Expert Pool (RISEP), a
shortlist of options was developed by selecting only those that the Agency
considered were the most feasible and impactful. The options included in the short
list are only those that have the potential to eliminate or reduce the risks identified for
both the environment and human health (where relevant) for each use. Fiscal
measures which were identified as options in HSE (2022) but not fully assessed at
that time were included in the short list. An analysis of each of the options on the
short list was undertaken for each use and is described in the Background
Document, underpinned by information on uses, releases and availability of
alternatives.
Since the publication of the Annex 15 dossier, receipt of information from the first
public consultation, scrutiny by RISEP, and further stakeholder engagement, some
of the options previously proposed have been modified.
Lead shot for target shooting
The option that would provide a fully effective removal of risks is a complete
prohibition on the placing on the market and use of lead shot for target shooting. This
was not considered practical as it would prevent a small number of athletes who
perform at the highest level from training and competing with the lead shot that is
required by the rules of the sport. In the Annex 15 dossier the Agency had included a
proposal to derogate licensed sites for target shooting with lead shot where risk
management was in place, in addition to licensing the placing on the market of lead
shot and use by athletes.


In meeting with the relevant bodies that oversee outdoor target shooting and
competitive shotgun shooting in GB, the Agency established that:
- approximately 50 shooters at any time may be required to continue shooting
lead
- the total amount of lead used by these athletes annually is approximately 37
tonnes (0.6% of the amount of lead used for target shooting with lead shot)
- the locations used to shoot are spread across GB, depending on the needs of
the individual athlete
- risk management measures suitable for capturing and collecting spent lead
shot are not feasible at the vast majority of shooting sites, often because of
the types of land over which shooting occurs.
It also became clear that a licensing scheme for sites and athletes was not required,
and something much simpler could be established, relying on the vastly decreased
use only by identified athletes, dispersed over a variety of sites, and the clear
identification and management of athletes by competitive shooting governing bodies.
The proposal to license the sites has therefore been removed from the proposed
restriction option for use of lead shot in outdoor target shooting as it is not
considered practical. However, the proposed restriction still includes the sport’s
governing bodies specifying only certain athletes that are required to continue to
shoot lead shot, to reduce the tonnages used and therefore the risk.
Lead in airgun ammunition
In the Annex 15 dossier, the use of airgun ammunition in live quarry shooting was
incorporated within the use of small calibre bullets. Although identified as a separate
use, the Agency did not have sufficient information to assess the options for use of
airgun ammunition for target shooting. Instead, the options considered for target
shooting with small calibre bullets were also considered to be appropriate for this
use. In the Background Document the options to mitigate against risks from uses of
lead airgun ammunition are now considered separately.
Lead airgun ammunition is used for live quarry and indoor and outdoor target
shooting. A prohibition on the placing on the market of lead airgun ammunition per
se cannot be considered as this would prevent sales for the indoor uses that are
formally out of scope for consideration of a restriction. The only options therefore
need to be focussed on the use, not the supply, of this ammunition. The Agency
considers that any prohibition on the use of lead airgun ammunition in outdoor
settings will be both unmonitorable and unenforceable, as the use takes place not
only in formal shooting settings, such as ranges or field target sites, but also on
private land, such as farmland and back gardens.

4.2.5 Further information about the proposed restriction
The Agency is not proposing to include additional labelling requirements for lead
ammunition or to make the provision of information about the restriction compulsory
at the point of sale. The Agency considers that other methods to promote the phaseout of lead ammunition and the use of alternatives would be more effective. This
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could include, for example, direct engagement with shooting organisations, suppliers
and users.
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PCP Rifle  SOLD FX impact m3

I have a FX impact M3 currently set up in 25cal, 700mm barrel. I also have the 357 cal 800mm barrel. Comes with ST arca rail, ST butstock and monopod. It has the power block installed with the heavy hammer. Will also come with all original parts. Your choice of what caliber you want, or we can work something out for both barrels. Asking 2000 for gun only, no scope or bipod. Or will take 1750 without the ST butstock and the ST arca rail. Thanks for looking. Open to offers, would consider trades for either a Western Sidewinder or maybe a Panthera compact.

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PCP Rifle  NLA Edgun R5M .22 long (Amazing Condition)

Priced lowered to 1100.00 shipped plus
3 JSB 500 count tins of 18.1 gr. Also including the new original regulator.


Beautiful Edgun R5M .22 long with Huma regulator installed. Comes with a beautiful walnut stock. Gun was originally purchased in January of this year and has shot probably 1/2 a tin of pellets. In great condition!! Comes with 4 magazines and bipod rail. It hold air perfectly and is a very accurate shooter. Gun will be shipped in original double boxes. I have many transactions on this forum, be sure and check out my feedback, it's spotless. You won't be disappointed with this airgun. Priced to sell at $1125.00 obo shipped to lower 48. No trades.

The bipod and scope aren't included but can be purchased if you are interested.

Feel free to call or text me at 405-664-4695 if you have any questions.

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