Umarex First outing with sl30
- By tb250
- PCP Airguns
- 18 Replies
Been toying with the idea of getting a gauntlet for a wile now finally bit the bullet and ordered the sl30. Only had a little time today but I enjoy it so far grouping wasn’t great but that was 50 yards standing leaned against a tree. Only the second magazine through the gun my only complaint is the trigger out of the box. I think some of the nerf guns at Walmart have a smoother trigger 
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.N/A Which game changer do you like the best?
- By MACTEN
- PCP Airguns
- 65 Replies
I really like the cylinder over barrel idea only because it's such a minimalist approach that it's hard not to.
I've been looking at all the offerings that have come out as of late and just wondered what others thought about that platform?
The FX DRS looks really good (like the beautiful wood stock best) and seems to be possibly lower priced than most of their other airguns, but that remains to be seen.
It will be accurate I'm sure
I also don't really have a desire for sub 12 and hope they come out with a FAC version unless I missed it as an offering.
The Altaros M24 is another one of these (C.O.B) rifles that touts extreme accuracy at long range and longest recorded accurate shot.
The JTS Stealth Hawk with AV looking polymer stock (but seems nicer to me) is probably much cheaper than the FX and Altaros and seems to be another solid Snowpeak M30 rebrand,
So It will likely be GTG. Couldn't find a decent picture of it.
The Barra 250Z? Also likely much less expensive that the Altaros or FX offerings and also a Snowpeak M30C rebrand with a slightly different stock and maybe some other small changes.
Then there's the Original Snowpeak M30 and now (updated M30c that came later) that appears to have started the whole trend years ago which looks like you can only find new old stock that are available.
I think the price points that the Barra and JTS decide to offer these will likely determine which one wins one of the New Hot Inexpensive PCP impulse buy wars this year.
FX will have plenty of people who grab theirs, especially if offered in FAC and price is kept to a sane amount.
And Altaros will still likely keep breaking through the distance ceiling with the M24 copy.
I've been looking at all the offerings that have come out as of late and just wondered what others thought about that platform?
The FX DRS looks really good (like the beautiful wood stock best) and seems to be possibly lower priced than most of their other airguns, but that remains to be seen.
It will be accurate I'm sure
I also don't really have a desire for sub 12 and hope they come out with a FAC version unless I missed it as an offering.
The Altaros M24 is another one of these (C.O.B) rifles that touts extreme accuracy at long range and longest recorded accurate shot.
The JTS Stealth Hawk with AV looking polymer stock (but seems nicer to me) is probably much cheaper than the FX and Altaros and seems to be another solid Snowpeak M30 rebrand,
So It will likely be GTG. Couldn't find a decent picture of it.
The Barra 250Z? Also likely much less expensive that the Altaros or FX offerings and also a Snowpeak M30C rebrand with a slightly different stock and maybe some other small changes.
Then there's the Original Snowpeak M30 and now (updated M30c that came later) that appears to have started the whole trend years ago which looks like you can only find new old stock that are available.
I think the price points that the Barra and JTS decide to offer these will likely determine which one wins one of the New Hot Inexpensive PCP impulse buy wars this year.
FX will have plenty of people who grab theirs, especially if offered in FAC and price is kept to a sane amount.
And Altaros will still likely keep breaking through the distance ceiling with the M24 copy.
Traditional Pistol SOLD NOS Santa Rosa Beeman P1 from the Dr Robert Beeman Collection
- By rokonman
- Member Classifieds
- 0 Replies
I am not a collector, though I do keep trying to be one. I shoot my guns and this one is too nice for that. I did test it with 3 shots and it fires as new. Includes box, all paper work and it is wearing Combat grips with much nicer figure than most. Includes sealed inventory tag from the Beeman collection. $600 or Best offer shipped CONUS.
PCP Rifle SOLD [Sold] FX Windcat MK3 BT .22 and Vortex Razor HD LHT 4.5-22x50 FFP For SALE
- By ArbabAmjad
- Member Classifieds
- 0 Replies
Hi
I am selling customized FX MK3 BT .22. It's almost in new condition. I was never able to use it much. Tuned for Javelin 23 gr slugs at 970 FPS. Spent well over $4000 on the complete setup. Willing to sell at Bargain price of $2200 + Shipping. I do have the scope box as well and can be shipped but of course it will increase shipping cost. Can accept Paypal, Zelle, Venmo
What's included?
FX Wildcat MK3 BT
3 FX original Mags
Vortex Razor HD LHT 4.5-22x50 FFP, MOA
Buck-Rail Suppressor
JINSE Bipod for Hunting and Shooting From Amazon
MK Machining Scope Caps, Throw Lever, Parallax wheel and Bubble Level
American Defense Quick Release 30mm Scope Mount - 1.47" Center AD-RECON-30
FX original box
Mods:
Slug Power Kit FX Wildcat MKIII
Picatinny rail FX
Barrel Sleeve FX Carbon Fiber
I am selling customized FX MK3 BT .22. It's almost in new condition. I was never able to use it much. Tuned for Javelin 23 gr slugs at 970 FPS. Spent well over $4000 on the complete setup. Willing to sell at Bargain price of $2200 + Shipping. I do have the scope box as well and can be shipped but of course it will increase shipping cost. Can accept Paypal, Zelle, Venmo
What's included?
FX Wildcat MK3 BT
3 FX original Mags
Vortex Razor HD LHT 4.5-22x50 FFP, MOA
Buck-Rail Suppressor
JINSE Bipod for Hunting and Shooting From Amazon
MK Machining Scope Caps, Throw Lever, Parallax wheel and Bubble Level
American Defense Quick Release 30mm Scope Mount - 1.47" Center AD-RECON-30
FX original box
Mods:
Slug Power Kit FX Wildcat MKIII
Picatinny rail FX
Barrel Sleeve FX Carbon Fiber
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Do you carry a side arm when hunting with pcp
This is my new best friend when I go hunting. For emergencies only.
Taipan Push the Taipan Vet2 tactical 700mm to 100yards.....
- By Bud-sc
- PCP Airguns
- 16 Replies
Wanted to push the Taipan 700mm to 100yards with very good results....what a tack driver!!! Those little red targets are slightly bigger than a quarter. That was a 10 shot groups. Wind 5-10 mph...
Beeman Sportsman RS2
- By RangerPete
- Traditional Airguns
- 10 Replies
Hi Folks,
Does anyone know if this model was made in china or Germany?
Are they any good?
And what would the equivalent HW model be?
Many thanks
Pete.
Does anyone know if this model was made in china or Germany?
Are they any good?
And what would the equivalent HW model be?
Many thanks
Pete.
First night with the Uragan 2 vs trash pandas
Not a bad start with the Hurricane 2 (Uragan) I just got today.
Using the H&N Barracuda Hunter Extremes in .22. 18.52 grains flying at 920 fps for 34 fpe. They are great for headshots. Edit: I have uploaded the videos. They are raw. No comments or anything.
Using the H&N Barracuda Hunter Extremes in .22. 18.52 grains flying at 920 fps for 34 fpe. They are great for headshots. Edit: I have uploaded the videos. They are raw. No comments or anything.
JTS JTS has made their own Beeman R9 (HW95) for $150?!?
- By Maizen
- Traditional Airguns
- 67 Replies
Of course I’m taking it with a grain of salt, but JTS is on a roll here. They’ve already implemented plenum over barrel for their new selection of PCPs, and now they’re nailing the springer world with 2 new springers. The repeater doesn’t interest me as much as this R9 wannabe lookin springer.
Apparently it (JTS SUPER9X) is competition ready for $150
Apparently it (JTS SUPER9X) is competition ready for $150
JTS JTS’ FX Wildcat with plenum over barrel + their version of the FX King at Shot Show 2024 (they beat FX by putting a plenum over barrel in a bullpup)
- By Maizen
- PCP Airguns
- 29 Replies
The bullpup is called the thunderlance…pretty slick with the plenum over barrel! Plus it’s got a cocking mechanism that looks to be unique.
The FX King copy looks promising as well…plenum over barrel with this one too. If it is as accurate as the JTS Airacuda…oh boy...slugs are going to be fun.
For the record, still a FX fan.
The FX King copy looks promising as well…plenum over barrel with this one too. If it is as accurate as the JTS Airacuda…oh boy...slugs are going to be fun.
For the record, still a FX fan.
Huben Huben GK1 Stock
- PCP Airguns
- 30 Replies
Let me know what you guys think about this stock. It come apart so you can easily fit it a back pack or shoot it as a pistol. Also has. picatiny rail on the front bottom and 2 mlok rails on the side.
Traditional Rifle SOLD Beeman R9, 177
- By Pholio
- Member Classifieds
- 0 Replies
Beeman R9 177
$350 shipped
$350 shipped
Optics NLA 3 scopes for sale Cheap Cheap Cheap marked down daily. Who will leap first?
- By Hw9720
- Member Classifieds
- 0 Replies
Rex 10-40x50 ium SF. NIB This scope is sold under more than a few names.
85.00 80.00 78.50 76.00 s 73.50. hipped PayPal F&F
Campasseco tech force 3-14x40 Ilum NIB 30.00 22.50.00 shipped SOLD
Lebo 4-16x40AO this is a very solid built scope. Also NIB 100.00 90.00 82.50 80.00 shipped.
tim
Lebo 4-16x40AO this is a very solid built scope. Also NIB
tim
FX Wildcat compact 22 and Altaros slugs👍
- By weevil
- PCP Airguns
- 46 Replies
Another winter tinker that could be a long winded story but I’ll cut to the chase. It concerns my FX Wildcat, which has served duty in many configurations from 177 to 30 in compact (500mm) and sniper (700mm) form. It started out as a Mk3 tubed version and was converted to a BT through the addition of a plenum tube and bottle adapter. Its most recent config was in 500mm 30 cal but it was made redundant by the arrival of a Sidewinder mini in .30. I decided to turn it into a dedicated little 22 slugger with a heavy 1:16 liner. Nothing new there - Ted Bier and others have posted numerous videos singing the praises of the WC BT compact 22 slugger. The twist here is that I wanted to get it shooting the high BC Altaros 32.3 grain slugs at their favored speed of 880-900fps. I thought that might be a tall order at 56+ FPE, requiring some modification of the valve or deletion of the second reg. However, the little powerhouse came through without having to exceed 150bar. I was also able to keep the stock pellet probe, which keys into the tail of the Altaros slugs ensuring perfect axial loading and smooth magazine operation. YMMV, but pin probes have never done me any favors.
Here’s the config details:
1:16 500mm heavy liner, cleaned and installed into the TP and jam nut with a tight fitting Teflon tape wrap and only one 8x1 oring at the top of the jam nut. Another personal preference over the seemingly wobbly stock 3X oring setup.
CF liner sleeve bonded to the liner with silicone sealant.
Stock pellet probe with port opened up to match the TP without removing any of the circular face that contacts the slug.
Huma slug transfer port.
Heavier brass hammer weight from the Huma WC/Maverick tuning kit with stock spring.
180/150bar Reg1 and 2 and HST set 2 turns out before coil binding prevents cocking.
Regarding the tune, a 150bar plateau speed of 895fps was hit at around 1 turn out from binding on the HST. The shots were loud and clearly wasting air. The surprise was that, even with the excessive air, the slugs seemed to be hitting the same spot. In any case, I dropped the speed until the shot cycle settled. The resulting speed was 880fps and the ES was 4. I’ve read so many times that excess air will destabilize slugs so I wasn’t very optimistic about settling so high on the curve (98.6%) but from what I could see, the slugs were stacking
and the sound was snappy. Perhaps the heavier slugs are not so easily upset? Perhaps it’s an old wives tale born from expectation rather than empirical testing. IDK.
So, here we are with a WC compact 22 shooting 0.18BC slugs at 880fps for 56fpe! For context, that high BC means that the slugs are delivering 47fpe at 100 yards. That’s a pretty useful compact rig. I’ve run it before with a standard liner and light slugs and it was pretty good. But this is (so far and fingers crossed), way better. Here’s a group of 8 at 50 yards with the spent stack of slugs plucked from the duct seal under the target shown at the top. These included the first shot of the day…
I’ll be taking it out further in the next few days.
Here’s a pic showing the guts after diy conversion from tube to BT. From L to R, BT plenum, original reg section (which I think gives it a slightly larger plenum), another small plenum and then the bottle adapter.
Finally, a pic of the pellet probe keyed into the base of an Altaros slug. I suspect this plays a role in the exceptional accuracy of these slugs.
Here’s the config details:
1:16 500mm heavy liner, cleaned and installed into the TP and jam nut with a tight fitting Teflon tape wrap and only one 8x1 oring at the top of the jam nut. Another personal preference over the seemingly wobbly stock 3X oring setup.
CF liner sleeve bonded to the liner with silicone sealant.
Stock pellet probe with port opened up to match the TP without removing any of the circular face that contacts the slug.
Huma slug transfer port.
Heavier brass hammer weight from the Huma WC/Maverick tuning kit with stock spring.
180/150bar Reg1 and 2 and HST set 2 turns out before coil binding prevents cocking.
Regarding the tune, a 150bar plateau speed of 895fps was hit at around 1 turn out from binding on the HST. The shots were loud and clearly wasting air. The surprise was that, even with the excessive air, the slugs seemed to be hitting the same spot. In any case, I dropped the speed until the shot cycle settled. The resulting speed was 880fps and the ES was 4. I’ve read so many times that excess air will destabilize slugs so I wasn’t very optimistic about settling so high on the curve (98.6%) but from what I could see, the slugs were stacking
and the sound was snappy. Perhaps the heavier slugs are not so easily upset? Perhaps it’s an old wives tale born from expectation rather than empirical testing. IDK.So, here we are with a WC compact 22 shooting 0.18BC slugs at 880fps for 56fpe! For context, that high BC means that the slugs are delivering 47fpe at 100 yards. That’s a pretty useful compact rig. I’ve run it before with a standard liner and light slugs and it was pretty good. But this is (so far and fingers crossed), way better. Here’s a group of 8 at 50 yards with the spent stack of slugs plucked from the duct seal under the target shown at the top. These included the first shot of the day…
I’ll be taking it out further in the next few days.
Here’s a pic showing the guts after diy conversion from tube to BT. From L to R, BT plenum, original reg section (which I think gives it a slightly larger plenum), another small plenum and then the bottle adapter.
Finally, a pic of the pellet probe keyed into the base of an Altaros slug. I suspect this plays a role in the exceptional accuracy of these slugs.
⁍⁍ Did someone say: "We need BETTER PROJECTILES" ??
- Projectiles
- 24 Replies
In another thread @Triglav observed that in powder burner research & development the emphasis has shifted away from simply adding more gun powder in ever increasing cartridges.
And then he said:
"Same principle applies to airguns:
WE NEED BETTER PROJECTILES, not more air through the port, or a larger caliber."
Well said.
We have NSA blazing the projectile trail with lowering the price of the formerly very expensive slugs.
We have Altaros blazing the projectile trail with doubling the BC for slugs.
We heard FX announce "the replacement for the airgun pellet" — that particular exaggeration was published a year and half ago.
➧ I am quite sure that we will NOT follow the advice of their misguided marketeers and "say goodbye to pellets."
However, I am convinced that a good many of us would have use for a hollow point projectile that:
▪ has an amazing expansion in flesh upon impact, and that
▪ has a high enough BC in order to keep up its impact velocity out to 40 or 50 or more yards — so that that amazing expansion can actually happen!
➔ I'd suggest a true (not fudged) *BC of 0.050*.
➔ Incidentially, a BC of 0.050 would also limit the range and impact of the projectile when used for angled shots into the trees:
At this BC the impact energy of the projectile returning to earth is rather low, cf. graph below.
Besides better projectiles I have others repeatedly call for barrels that are much better adjusted to the projectiles — and that are more consistently made (one true diameter, not a "nominal" diameter/caliber).
Sounds right!
These are great times to be an airgunner! 
Let's see what the Shot Show, IWA, & Co will bring this year. I hear that Niels at NSA is working on a new projectile that will have great expansion.
Matthias
Graph:
Impact energy upon return to earth — of a 18.13gr projectile with 0.050 BC — shot at various inclination angles:
And then he said:
"Same principle applies to airguns:
WE NEED BETTER PROJECTILES, not more air through the port, or a larger caliber."
Well said.
We have NSA blazing the projectile trail with lowering the price of the formerly very expensive slugs. We have Altaros blazing the projectile trail with doubling the BC for slugs. We heard FX announce "the replacement for the airgun pellet" — that particular exaggeration was published a year and half ago. ➧ I am quite sure that we will NOT follow the advice of their misguided marketeers and "say goodbye to pellets."
However, I am convinced that a good many of us would have use for a hollow point projectile that: ▪ has an amazing expansion in flesh upon impact, and that
▪ has a high enough BC in order to keep up its impact velocity out to 40 or 50 or more yards — so that that amazing expansion can actually happen!
➔ I'd suggest a true (not fudged) *BC of 0.050*.
➔ Incidentially, a BC of 0.050 would also limit the range and impact of the projectile when used for angled shots into the trees:
At this BC the impact energy of the projectile returning to earth is rather low, cf. graph below.
Besides better projectiles I have others repeatedly call for barrels that are much better adjusted to the projectiles — and that are more consistently made (one true diameter, not a "nominal" diameter/caliber). Sounds right!
These are great times to be an airgunner! Let's see what the Shot Show, IWA, & Co will bring this year. I hear that Niels at NSA is working on a new projectile that will have great expansion.
Matthias
Graph:
Impact energy upon return to earth — of a 18.13gr projectile with 0.050 BC — shot at various inclination angles:
Traditional Rifle SOLD Beeman HW77 20 cal
- By Pholio
- Member Classifieds
- 0 Replies
Beeman HW77 20 cal, no sights
$500 shipped
$500 shipped
PCP Rifle NLA BROCOCK COMMANDER XR 22 FOLDER HP 2 Mags
- Member Classifieds
- 5 Replies
$1325 Delivered to your door excluding Hawaii. This gun is an excellent condition comes with two factory magazines. It’s the XR Magnum series shoots absolutely amazing with a great trigger major shot count only reason for selling is, I’m going to buy a brand new rifle to replace this safe queen. barrel has shrink wrap on it to protect it has tiny two little scratches under shrink wrap that are barely noticeable otherwise gun is pristine. I have excellent reviews on eBay and on here as well. If you have any questions, you can reach out to me or call me at 209-984-6322 Dean, thanks for looking you won’t be disappointed…also comes with the factory grip and the Hogue grip that is brand new on it
does not leak whatsoever and I have a complete bro cock seal kit in case there ever is a leak check out the reviews on this gun. They are excellent.
Does not come with scope or bipod or bubble level will be shipped in original box and double boxed. If you would like to buy the scope, we can discuss that.
does not leak whatsoever and I have a complete bro cock seal kit in case there ever is a leak check out the reviews on this gun. They are excellent.Does not come with scope or bipod or bubble level will be shipped in original box and double boxed. If you would like to buy the scope, we can discuss that.