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Traditional Rifle  SOLD Weihrauch HW97K FINAL PRICE DROP!

SOLD!
Now $475 + actual shipping only. Comes with box and paperwork. Added moderator adapter also.
Meticulous 97K in .22. I can’t find a mark or flaw on it anywhere. Superbly accurate Bought new in January ‘22, I have since gotten sucked into the black hole of PCPs and just don’t see myself using it enough to justify keeping it. No more than a few hundred pellets down tube. Scope and rings not included - unless you’d be interested in a package deal. Don’t hesitate to ask for more detailed pictures you’d like to see.
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Also includes adaptor to 1/2 UNF moderator.
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Airgun Technologies  .22 Uragan 700 mm overview & Talon Tunes

Right before the holidays, I decided I have room for one more nice air rifle in my collection. The one person I had never purchased a rifle from that seemed to have a really good reputation and be a great vendor that supports our hobby was Tony at Talon Tunes. So after a lot of on-line research, I got on the Talon Tunes website mid afternoon on Christmas Eve and ordered a new .22 Uragan 2 700 mm in the carbon fiber configuration. On the electronics order I asked for a couple of specific accommodations as noted in the comments/instructions section. I entered the payment info and hit “send.”

To my surprise, within about 5 minutes I had a personal e-mail from Tony acknowledging my order and requests. About four days later (Christmas was in the middle of this) I received the shipping notice. A total of about a week from the time I placed the order the rifle was in my hands, perfectly packed and delivered, arriving exactly as I had it.

At a glance, it is what you would expect from an Eastern European rifle, military/tactical style in appearance, highly functional, but certainly not with the finish of an FX Crown/King, Daystate Red Wolf etc. But I bought it because of its reputation for accuracy and function so I expected this in the first place.

I like everything about it except for two minor things. The safety isn’t positive in its position - no detent - so occasionally it will engage when you aren’t expecting it. Second, the air guage is so small one can’t easily read it.

Other than these items it is great. I purchased with the medium length factory moderator. Works well.

Tony had it tuned for the 25.4 Gr pellets and on my indoor range it was shooting sub moa groups (virtually one hole) at an average of 966 fos. The magazines load easily and work flawlessly.

I had ordered from a different vendor an Athlon Chronos scope to mount on this rifle that has not yet arrived so I installed a new Athlon Argos 8-32 FFP MOA scope I had in my rack as a spare.

I tested 11 different pellets and slugs on the indoor range and then this morning took the best performing six projectiles and shot two groups each outside on in less than ideal conditions - snowing with 8 mph crossing winds from the left. The testing distance was 84.1 yards.

The best performance in these conditions came from the ZAN 30.5 Gr slugs in .217. The group sizes were about half of that of the various pellets tested in the wind conditions. Strelok Pro calculated the BC at .100. The average velocity at 1’ from the muzzle with these slugs during set-up was 868 fps and the two 10 shot groups indoors average .275” with the smallest group only .18” (MOA).

I have attached the group target for you to see. All in all, I am very pleased with the rifle and very please with Tony and Talon Tunes.

DZ
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Air Venturi  Avenge X failure to fire

I spent a couple of hours yesterday sighting n my new Avenge X. I put around 100 rounds through it, then brought it in the house to clean it. I filled the cylinder to about 3500 psi and it sat overnight. This morning I went to shoot it again and on my first shot the only sound it made was that of the hammer spring. The gun didn't fire and the pellet stayed in the bore. The gun hadn't lost any air pressure, so I cocked it again and it fired normally. I sent a few more rounds through it and it's back to working normally.
I'm betting this can't be normal. Any idea what happened? Hammer spring is at 3 turns and the regulated pressure is 2000 psi. There was a bit of regulator creep, but nothing more than I hear about from other folks with this gun.

Joe
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FWB  Brothers from another mother

There are benefits to being a retired master mechanic besides the sore back and a stack of tools to walk around in the basement. Though right now the stack of tools is the only one I can think of. These two have been the latest reasons to dig through the tool stash. Rebuilding Feinwerkbau Airguns as become my favorite pass time, the quality of parts and engineering is a pleasure to behold. Top is a 1974 vintage FWB Model 65 I bought from a friend in the Netherlands. It needed to be freshened up with a new Feinwerkbau spring and buffers and seal from Jim Maccari. It cocks a little far back in the stroke from stacking of wear clearances but other than that is as tight as new and a same hole shooter. I can’t imagine how many thousands of shots have been through it over these many years. The second one is a Qishouqiang / Industry Brand / Tech Force SS2 FWB Model 65 clone I just bought from a member in Arizona. It had been rebuilt by Mac 1 a while back and the buffers are still fresh. It was completely inoperative thanks to the Chinese grease hardening though out the trigger and sledge systems. The grease had turned to gritty glue the likes of which I have never seen. Pins and levers that normally fall right out all had to be tapped or pried out, soaked in solvent, scraped and finally sanded to be fully cleaned. Four solid hours of work has netted a great shooting gun. For the record every part was an exact copy of the Feinwerkbau and other than stiffer cocking it would be tough to tell them apart. Now all that left is waiting for the FWB model 600 I just purchased from my friend in the Netherlands to arrive. It is in customs now and the rebuild seal kit will be here tomorrow.

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Hatsan Jet 2. Complete POS.

I just got a chance to shoot this yesterday and a little bit today and I’ve got to say I am blown away by what a complete and utter turd it is.

Where to start? Well the muzzle threads don’t align with the bore for one. It doesn’t matter what moderator I put on it, I get baffle strikes with them all and approximately 4” groups at 10 yards. And it’s not just a matter of using a slightly oversized mod. I’m already using a .30 mod on a .22 gun. It doesn’t end there though. Even if it weren’t clipping pellets the front and rear optics rails are approximately 1/16” out of alignment with each other. So when you mount a scope on it it will always shoot way too low even with the elevation maxed out. The front rails not a real picatinny rail either and the part that is supposed to accept picatinny mounts is very short. It may appear to run the full length, but most of that is actually an 11mm dovetail with picatinny style slots cut in it.

It’s a long, long way from being backyard friendly as well. Without a moderator I’d compare it to a .22lr shooting subsonic ammo. The pistol grip is way too small for my hand as well. My pinky overhangs the bottom of the grip and the deepset finger grooves in no way fit my fingers. Now I am 6’1” and stocky so take that for what it’s worth, but I would guess that if you’re at all bigger than average you probably won’t find the grip fits you either.

From what I can tell, it doesn’t have a shot curve to it, (well maybe if you gassed it up to 300 bar). When you fill it up to its max pressure it just loses a little velocity with every shot. I decided initially that given its small size and air volume I’d consider its shot curve to be good over a 50 fps spread. As it turns out that was 17 shots. And I could actually live with that. There may not be a decent shot curve, but the velocities were reasonably consistent for the first 14 shots or two magazines worth and my gx compressor fills it back up in about the same time it takes to reload the magazines.

All in all just an extremely disappointing gun and one I would strongly advise everyone to avoid. I got mine at the midway clearance price of $190 after tax, but honestly I wouldn’t advise you to buy it unless it was under $100 and you were buying it as a project that you knew you would have to fix straight out of the box.

Best chronograph for PCP

I have a Caldwell chronograph that I’ve used for reloading for years.
I recently acquired my first PCP and while researching, I see these chronographs that are specialized for air guns and give very informative information/ graphs for tuning. It seems this would be a very useful investment.
Can anyone guide me to which one I should buy? I don’t know enough to know what features I should look for.

When the Covid Isolation Boredom Hits

I'm on day four of isolating in the basement because I caught Covid (again). I've tweaked the tune on my R-10, resealed my Wildcat, filled my airtank, cleaned powder burners, and watched enough TV to numb my brain into utter boredom. Well boredom lead to silliness in the form of flour "playdough" and my Maverick slinging a .25 FX hybrid at 1028fps. This does not test anything nor does it prove anything (other than that I am bored). Why post it then? As stated: I'm bored and what else would I do with the video??

So what have you put down range for the "see what will happen" entertainment?
(Nothing dangerous of course)

HW/Weihrauch  Newer Style Stocks..barf!!

The new stocks with the weird cut away at the butt and Minelli and Weihrauch name in the area (where solid stippling or checkering should be) to me is just not appealing. I admit to being an old fart and preferring traditional shaped sporting stocks. I disliked them so much I ordered a couple of R7 stocks for my HW30's

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Airforce  airforce talonP

I am back with a new PCP, I just picked up an airforce talonP. its a sweet little gun so far, im really enjoying it so far. so here's the question. what stupid mods should I do to it. im open to anything, adding a reg and plenum, long barrel, caliber change, anything. the gun already kinda looks goofy so why not embrace that and make it look really goofy while keeping its functionality. let me know what you guys are thinking. Im at work a lot so I won't be to active here but ill check in periodically to see what's up. lets build the "ultimate" TalonP!

thanks guys!
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Shaggin' for BB's

Seem to be trippin' down memory lane today so........

How many of you took off your shoes and walked on your heels through the family room shag carpet to find spilled BB's because you ran out?

I'd spill Golden Bullseyes every time I poured from that yellow cardboard tube into the end of my Daisy 102 and I could usually find enough in the rug for one more hunt until Mom went to the store the next day.

How did you know you were done?

Well, I've been sitting on this post for a while, largely because I didn't want to admit to myself that as much as I thought I could get back into this hobby over the past few years, it just never really happened - and I don't think things are going to change anytime soon.

My wife and I sold our previous property in the woods which had given me the chance to enjoy target practice whenever I wanted, but there's no way I can use my .30 on my half-acre suburbian plot (even with a moderator) without raising eyebrows. Add in shoulder issues (and knee surgery right before Christmas), and I think it's time to move on. By no means is this a pity party - and I know I've been a silent member of the site for a while - but I guess it's more of a realization that as much as I love this sport, I probably have to move on.

Anyone else in a similar situation? I welcome your thoughts and opinions!

Antaeus

Trophy* Pic Thread

Here’s what I propose:
Here is a thread where we can post photos our trophy* pics. Rather than use a tape as the singular measure of a trophy, let’s use “a trophy is measured by the effort involved” as our measure. Of course, your whopper kills pics are welcome too.

Please include the following, because it’s interesting:
1. A short story: Who? What? Where?
2. Equipment used: Gun, caliber, slug/pellet…

SO….Let’s see your iguanazillas, rabbitzillas, jackrabbitzillas, squirrelzillas, coyotezillas, ratzillas, mousezillas, gopherzillas, and any “Zilla” that I’ve neglected. I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Little rifle for a little guy

Hi guys, I thought you might enjoy a project I did for a friend's kid. The guy is very small for his age. Really small. He is out in the shooting shack with us all the time.
Absolutely loves it! He was always drawn to my Crosman 160. It's the shortest rifle I have. He asked to shoot it every time he came over. But it was still too big for him.
So I dug out my parts box and built him a tiny Crosman 180. I had an old stock that was damaged anyway so I started cutting to make it fit a tiny person.
Made a new trigger and guard to move the trigger back for tiny hands.
This is the result. He has lots of fun with it now that he fits the rifle much better.

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One Piece vs Two Piece...the tale of the tape.

Shot 6 cards this morning with the intention of seeing how scores compare when using a one piece Randolph rest with sandbag top and a typical two piece setup with mechanical front using same top and a rear sand bag.

The saving grace of winter in my part of Colorado is that the cold is often offset by really nice wind. Temps were in the low to mid 20s...but the wind was a pleasant 1-3 mph.

Here are the One piece cards and setup pics.

250 19x
250 16x
250 21x. 750 56x

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I'll post the 2 piece in a minute.

PCP Rifle  SOLD SPF, Airforce Talon SS .177 $320 shipped.

I have an excellent Airforce Talon SS in .177. Very lightweight with plenty of power. 50yds is not a problem with any heavier pellet. At low power it slings crossmans well out to 40yds also. Accessorries not included but can be discussed. Thank You.

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Air gun repair.

I have a Hatsan 125 that I’ve had put away for a few years, decided I’d try and use it to go squirrel hunting. Went to cock it and the break barrel has no resistance and just goes down. Tried taking it apart but couldn’t get the bolt out of the stock. Instead of messing with it, I decided to see if someone knew where I could send it to get serviced. Thanks for the replies.

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