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Results  Ultimate Field Target @ PRGC-November 2024 Match Results

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Ben and Phoenix Rod and Gun club hosted an Ultimate Field Target match this morning, and it was the first of the new format. This new format is exciting to me, for various reasons. One of which is that it makes it possible to come play and have fun and compete with a much broader range of airguns. And THAT has the possibility of allowing many more people to come enjoy the addicting nature of field target.

The biggest change in course format was that Ben added a third target to each lane, resulting in a near, middle, and far target.
Anybody that is under 50fpe can shoot at the nearest lane, as well as middle and far. If you're past 50fpe, only the middle and far targets can be shot. And if you're only 20fpe, you can opt to shoot at the near and middle, and not the far target. Or if you REALLY want a challenge, a 20fpe gun could be used to shoot the Full Monty.

So here's the course layout, including Troyer factors...
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To aid in helping shooters interact at the correct targets for their chosen classes, Ben had the score cards, lane markers, and even the kill zones of near and middle lanes color coded. (Color coding the far lane is the next step, he simply ran out of time.)
So here's a sample of the score cards....
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And the lane markers.....
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And an example of the color coding on the face plate.....
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A total of 9 shooters made it to the match to compete. Many of the "regulars" had prior commitments and simply couldn't make it today.
Of those 9...
  • 2 chose to shoot with slugs in the "Full Monty," two shots at each of all three targets, for a 72 shot match.
  • 3 of the shooters chose to use pellets for the Full Monty.
  • 1 Long range slugger (middle and far lanes for a48 shot match).
  • 1 Long Range pellet flinger (48 shot match)
  • 2 short range pellet shooters (near and middle lanes for a 48 shot match).
And here is how they did...
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From the scores, it sure looks like the course lived up to the "Ultimate" moniker. Many of us are accustomed to seeing the winner of AAFTA type matches here in AZ have zero, 1 or MAYBE 2 misses. So I feel that we're sort of conditioned to think that anything less than a 95% hit rate isn't doing great. Well, I think we're going to have to change our thinking for Ultimate Field Target! Cuz if this month is any indicator, high overall score might be an 80-85% knockdown rate for a UFT match. One cool thing to point out there, is that in an AAFTA type match, it's easy to get down on oneself after missing a shot or two, knowing that you just might be out of the running for high score. BUT, with UFT, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. It's looking like we won't know we won the match til all the scorecards are turned in. SO, on top of changing our thinking about what constitutes a "good score" we may also have to realize not to let a couple misses get into our heads during the match, cuz we might very well still be in the hunt for the top score, even with multiple misses.

I'm pretty excited to get down to Phoenix Rod and Gun club and shoot one of these matches! I've been pondering what gun/projectile to use and still can't settle on one. And that's cuz the new format opens up the possibilities so much that many more of my guns are potentially competitive than have been in the past for long range/ high power field target matches. I also love that it's putting an emphasis back on true airgun-level fpes. I enjoy airguns specifically because of the power levels they put out, for lots of reasons. And I feel a 50FPE cap for the Full Monty will agree with many other airgunners thoughts. UFT is less about, "well I gotta buy a new gun cuz everybody else is shooting the new .30s with BCs better than my .22s." and more about, "you got an airgun?!?!? come shoot that thing at the next UFT match!"

Congrats to the winners!
Thanks to Ben for putting in the work. (He texted me when he left the match site on Thursday night and it was 10:50pm. He puts in a lot of hours towards our enjoyment of airguns. THANK YOU BEN!

For anybody that shot today, please chime in and tell us what you thought. And even if you didn't shoot today, please let us know how you feel about the new format and the possibilities that this opens up.

Also, if you were at the match today, feel free to add any photos you took. I was only sent a few and for whatever reason the Android/Apple mismatch makes them come through really blurry.

GX CS4-I Issue

When I plug in my new CS4-I sometimes nothing happens, the power supply fan doesn’t come on & the compressor doesn’t do anything. If I switch the power supply from 110v to 220v & back to 110v it will then work as normal. Doesn’t happen every time but has happened several times since I got it about 2 weeks ago. im thinking that it’s a power supply issue. I am in contact with GXpump about the problem. Anyone else had this issue with theirs?

Chinese scopes have upped their game in 10 years

Maybe 8 or ten years ago I needed a couple of cheap scopes. I ended up getting 3 Meullers. I had an f class 6.5x284 with a sightron 10x50
then bought a ftr class 308. The competition was using mainly nightforce but I was only dabbling in it. So I bought this 8x32 mueller which is still on the rifle( I sold the f class and sightron and haven’t shot 1000 yards in 6 or 8 years). I was serviceable but it looked like it was made from unfinished tubing you get at Home Depot.

So for only $50 more than that mueller was almost 8 years later I just received a new Athlon heras spr 6x24 sfp ( $300) What an improvement!
Ive had one Swarovski on my elk gun and through life mostly Leupolds. It may not be as finely finished and I haven’t looked through it
but it’s a hell of a lot of scope for the money , discounted of course. Seems rather heavy? I don’t have anything laying around to compare.

Accessories  SOLD FX Crown MKII spacers for CF Barrel Sleeve / Shroud in Yellow

Sorry guys I have been busy with work (have to put food on the table, and this is just a hobby and I am just trying to help out fellow hobbyists when I can).

I have 3d printed FFF on ABS about 15 sets of 7-spoke spacers if people are still interested. The first 16 PMs or so will get a link to purchase, at least until supplies run out. Cost is $30.00 for 3x spacers and 3x o-rings, or $40 for 6x spacers and 6x o-rings, and a flat $10 usps priority mail with tracking to continental U.S. either way. Maximum of 4 sets (12x spacers and 12x o-rings).

To be clear, a set has 3x spacers and 3x o-rings. You can purchase up to four in U.S.

$40 total (cost + shipping) for 1 set
$50 total for 2 sets
$70 total for 3 sets
$90 total for 4 sets

I designed and printed some of these V2 spacers for my FX Crown MKII with CF barrel sleeve after I couldn't get danny5692’s design to print well (edit: This design https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/carbon-sleeve-fx-crown/#post-1164001).

The purpose of these spacers is to center the barrel with the CF barrel sleeve within the FX Crown shroud, which I believe essential. These spacers fit the .177, .22, .25 and .30 CF sleeves, and fit between the FX CF barrel sleeve and the FX crown shroud. The CF barrel sleeve stiffens the barrel, but without spacers, the floating barrel and CF sleeve are not held fixed to the shroud.

Here is a photo of the set of 3 spacers and o-rings (latest 7-spoke design) taken today.

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These spacers and o-rings come with details on how I used them, with warnings, cautions, etc. Use at your own risk.

Here are some other photos to illustrate the use:


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When installing the CF Barrel sleeve on the FX Crown barrel, you may decide to use electrical tape to affix the CF barrel sleeve to the barrel, or use Teflon, or to epoxy it to the barrel. I ultimately decided to use epoxy (Infinity Bond EP 420 High Peel and Shear Strength Epoxy - 25 Minute Open Time) as it is slow curing...I waited a day before I installed the spacers and shroud. You can see some of the epoxy in the above photo.

However, this is a rather permanent solution so you might want to try it with Teflon or electrical tape first.

Below are photos of earlier designs (5 spoke) design

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User @jdh2550 made a post here showing his results with the CF sleeve and these spacers: https://www.airgunnation.com/thread...n-mkii-cf-sleeve-spacer.1249356/#post-1258039

Also user @ChRiSiS posted his results at 50 yrds here: https://www.airgunnation.com/thread...n-mkii-cf-sleeve-spacer.1249356/#post-1256316

I haven't done formal testing on my setup but I have taken out some pests. That is a time where I went the "it is self-evident" to improve things route.

FWB  P70 has me stumped.

I have a thread on here somewhere about this P70Jr that belonged to an older FT club member.

I have replaced all seals, rebuilt the regulator and replaced the old cylinder. Gun shoots amazing and is accurate as can be.

My issue is I’m getting a sharp crack of air from the breech block to bolt. If I put my hand over the bolt section I can feel the blast and if I push down firmly on the bolt section I can reduce the sound.

I’m at a loss. The breech and barrel seals are new. Anyone know if there is an adjustment for the bolt tension? The rifle was stored with it closed for roughly 20 years.

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EDgun  Is The Edgun Lelya Discontinued?

Hello all,
I have seen several comments about the Edgun Lelya 2 being discontinued. I cannot find any info to confirm this. So does someone know if in fact it is no longer being made/imported or is it just because of the unrest in that part of the world that they are on a pause from being imported?

Thanks
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PCP Rifle  SOLD Brocock Sniper XR, .22 cal, regulated PCP air rifle $1,175.00 lowered price

Hello everyone,

Selling my like new Brocock Sniper XR, .22 cal, regulated PCP air rifle. I purchased this rifle new from Airguns of Arizona and have not modified it in anyway. This is a very accurate rifle shooting JSB Jumbo Heavy 18.13gr pellets at 834fps.

It comes with all original items including 1-factory magazine plus 3 - CARM magazines and 1 - Maple magazine ( over $125.00 ) and original factory box and outside shipping box. Everything on the rifle works perfect and hold air as it should. NO TRADES.

Free shipping to lower 48 states only.

The scope and rings Do Not go with the sale.

I have this listed on my website so it can be purchased with a credit card.

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Thank you, ThomasT
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PCP Rifle  SOLD ***Very rare Bird***. Kalibrgun Colibri (Hummingbird) .22

I’m looking to sell a very rare and almost impossible to find Kalibrgun Colibri aka Hummingbird in .22 cal. The Colibri is a very hard to find. Very few of them were made and imported to the states. This bird comes with factory magazine and fill probe. I have added a cheek rest, extended cocking handle, 1/2 UNF adapter as well as a Picatinny air tube rail.
This Colibri is tuned to shoot the 18.13gr at around 867 FPS. With the addition of the 1/2 UNF adapter you can install your favorite moderator to make this already quite rifle to super quite.
The bird is in very good condition as you can see on the photos.
I may regret selling this bird since I don’t shoot it much. I’m only selling this to make room in my safe for a new toy. Scope, rings and bipod are NOT included.
Not interested in trade. $1550 shipped to CONUS. Accept PayPal F&F as payment or add 4% to cover PayPal fee.
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Barrels  SOLD FX Crown Mk II Superlight Barrel Kits

I would like to sell two FX Crown Mk II Superlight barrel kits. They are:

SOLD *** 600mm .25 cal with a Superior STX 1:24 liner and a dual port brass barrel inlet (slug and pellet ports. Comes with a .25 pellet probe and muzzle thread cover. Asking $200 shipped to your door (in the lower 48 states).

SOLD *** 380mm .22 cal with a Superior STX 1:24 liner and a single port brass barrel inlet (Huma large slug port). Comes with a .22 slug probe which has sleeves so it can be used in a .25 and .30 cal barrels. Also includes a muzzle thread cover. Asking $200 TYD in lower 48 states.

Prefer PayPal FF

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PCP Rifle  SOLD **Sold**WTS Lelya 2.0 .22cal

Lelya 2.0 22cal., in near mint condition not a scratch on it other that marks on rail from scope mounts. Never carried in the Field!

Comes as pictured (no tripod) with the following.
*3-mags (1-factory, 2-EV)
*1-EV 1/2" unf adapter for additional moderator attachment.
*1-Pic Rail mounted on grip butt for mounting on tripod as pictured.
*Fill probe, misc O-rings including for mags.

Will come with original box and doubled boxed for shipping.

This is an excellent, excellent pcp, built like a tank and to last.

$1,175.00
Shipped CONUS.

Payment is Paypal F&F only. I have sold numerous PCPs via PP F&F no one has been disappointed! Check my reviews.

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FX  FX Airguns King Synthetic Stock .30 cal with Halo Slugs REVEALED!


This is one trip I've been dreaming about! I had the incredible opportunity to visit the world-renowned FX Airguns headquarters in Sweden, where innovation and craftsmanship are combined to create some of the best airguns on the planet. In this video, I’ll take you behind the scenes to explore their cutting-edge facility and, of course, put some of their latest gear to the test. Pay attention as there is a bit of a breaking news announcement in this video about FX Airguns offering a barreled action option to dealers so you can drop the FX King into ANY stock or chassis!

Mistake

So I got my compressor and bottle..everything ready to start shooting. I aired up my tank to approximately 4000-4200 psi (it’s a 4500 tank). The next day it got cold and the tank was down to 2000 psi, I know I would have lost some psi to it being cold. But not that much, checked to see if I had a leak everything was good. Tried to fill tank back up and busted the burst disk. So evidently either my tank gauge is wrong or something.

RAW Rapid  RAW HM1000X .25 fixed and tested at 78 yards pics

A RAW HM1000X .25 had come to me for repair. Regulator rebuild, new valve, trigger repair and anti hammer bounce device was needed.

After doing all this and setting up the gun at around 900fps with 34 grain JSB pellets, I got some time to test it today.

Below is the result at 78 yards 15 shots group and related pics.

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Accessories  NLA Indiana Airgun Show - vendor table

The 1st annual Indiana Airgun Show is only a few months away. In addition to numerous collectors and hobbyists, we have several industry vendors who will be in attendance. We’ll have hourly airgun related give aways and a raffle too. Tables are $40 each and visitor admission is $6. Visit indianaairgunshow.com for more info.

As of 1/4/25 we have only 30 vendor tables left.

It’s 2/2/25 and we still have some tables left, it’s shaping up to be a great show!

3/1/25 update: only 18 tables left

3/16/25 update: down to 12 tables!

3/23/25 only 8 tables left

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Air Arms  TX200 MkIII FAC Plus at 50-Feet

I know the thing is to set up the TX200 to run sub 12lbs for accuracy. It is just not my thing. I have this one set up with an FAC spring, and an additional 3mm spacer. It is running about 790fps (edited) with AA 10.3s. I usually shoot at 50-yards. In the "winter" I move more indoors and shoot from 50-feet. It typically dos ok there as well. The shot cycle seems nice to me.




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Sheridan  A trip down "SHERIDAN RD"

Introduced in 1949, the top rifle in the pictures is an example of the first Model "C" SilverStreak produced. It's recognizable by the flat slab-like stock, undercut front sight, large knurled adjustment knobs on the rear sight, and slotted pump handle screws.

In 1952, a sister gun to the SilverStreak was rolled out. Second rifle down, it's known as the Model "CB" BlueStreak. The first variant, BlueStreaks, can quickly be identified by the rear sight. It has large adjustment knobs similar to early Model C's, but rather than knurling, the knobs are smooth on the edges, and the male knob is slotted for a screwdriver. By 1953, the rear sight used adjustment screws with smaller slotted heads. There were several other changes made to the "C" series in those first three years, but the rear sight knobs set this gun apart from 1953-55 BlueStreaks.

The last of the SilverStreaks came off the assembly line in 2009. The 2010 catalogs no longer carried them. The third gun from the top represents an example of this final variation, Model C9A.

Sadly, three years later, in 2012, Crosman ended production of the BlueSteaks as well. There's no mention of them in the 2013 catalogs.

That's an incredible sixty years of production for each model.

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FX  Impact M3 Tuning Advice (inconsistency)

So I have my Impact shooting pretty decent groups after tuning but most of my shot charts look like this. I am shooting 18.1g FX ammo at 120/85 bar and usually shoot between 880-900 fps.

I did notice my regs creep a little and that’s why the first shot is low, but why the buildup like that. Should I have more pressure at the rear reg so it has a stronger contact with the valve adjuster? I can’t figure out why my strings are like this. Anything I can fix?


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