@BrocStar what do you mean by not fitting? I have JSB Exact Heavy King Diabolo 33.95 grain and I just checked. They fit fine with room to spare. Do you mean the diameter? They drop in my pellet magazines but also fit snugly into my slug magazines.

I don't have JSB Knockouts, so I can't comment on that.

I have Zan slugs in 30 and they fit in my 30 Leshiy 2.

I shot these 5 groups of 5 the other day and posted here:
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/agt-v2l-100.1338648/#post-2030056

Just ran across this thread and wanted to play.

Brand New AGT Vixen 2 .22
100 yards
Dead Center 18.1 Pellets
@986 FPS
little to no wind
9/11/25

Next session will be without the Mod.

Great Job on the refinish! The rifle looks brand new!

I use one of these, simple and sweet

They look pretty awesome. I have the tidewe backpack. Really good quality for the price. Their stuff seems good .

Nice. Made me instantly go to the (road warrior/mad max). Looks like a pop can exploding machine to me!

Picture. Let’s see the Urban !

That is good to hear.

Good customer service is key to sucesss of a business.

dlh2 said:

Yeah, I know. I guess I just assumed they would rename the pellets Gamo when they moved production to Spain. Anyway, they seem to grouping nice and tight and right on target just like the USA made ones i've been using.

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Crosman nothing but a brand name for gamo to exploit..

I do appreciate gamo maintaining the pellets at everyday low walk in Walmart pricing as old cphp were .

So thanks gamo

The good news…some fine shootin’ was displayed at the Delaware County Field & Stream airgun range today! From rifle & pistol, both paper & silhouette targets were getting whooped from well-placed shots.

The not-so-good news…the rain did not retreat soon enough to hold the Field Target match…dang! At least we had the most-excellent (and roofed) Airgun Range as a shooting retreat during the inclement weather.

Instead of typically doing the Field Target event first, we chose to do the ‘under roof’ events before the Field Target match - so we could wait for the rain clouds to pass. The rain clouds were not cooperating…they did not pass, but got worse as the morning went along! If nothing else, the rain clouds did not give us any wind to contend with.

Along with the shooting, we had some great discussions about AAFTA & DCFSA airgun matches. Hector filled us in on AAFTA club membership requirements (thanks for the details…easy-peasy!) An interesting idea surfaced about holding a regional three-club three-day field target extravaganza, which would attract non-local shooters. George Riley presented an idea to include a 50-yard airgun benchrest event alongside the 10-meter and silhouette events on October 12th. Perhaps these ‘under roof’ events could continue into the non-field-target winter months? Your thoughts???…

And last, big thanks to all who attended today, despite the weather and calendar conflicts with nearby DIFTA and GP matches. (2026 will have less regional field target calendar conflicts.) Double thanks to Trevor for helping set out sight-in targets, and pulling target strings which sadly did not get used today. At least the targets will not have to be re-painted before the next match.

Looking forward to a beautiful fall-color DCFSA final 2025 field target match on Sunday October 12th. Hope to see YOU there!

Here’s the scores…

Similar...except that I can also shoot from outside -> in to about 30 yds. Card board sandwiches up to .25 & then back it w OSB if you really want to go beyond. I see no point in >.25 for indoor shooting (unless that's all you have)

If you're used to shooting archery you'll get a feel for what is safe. Sound is a huge factor.. Keep it simple. You don't need a ton of BS to make it work. It's not rocket biology

I'd show "mine"....but still getting moved in

Oh! Well, I tried!

Here's an update....it's just a plain old smooth twist barrel. I found the seam near the muzzle. I re-read the listing description from seller (who also sells liners) I don't know how I came to the conclusion that it had been relined. Regardless it's a shooter and has prompted me to find more ST barrels for testing.

Little upset on the thermal from Utah airguns- I guess I should have spent more money and maybe I would have won. Now curious to see how much cash I received after paying for a gun

I've killed squirrels with everything from a 19 fpe 177 shooting 10 grain H&N pellets to a >40 fpe 25 using domed pellets. I only use domed pellets because that is what is most accurate in my guns. After I lost a couple with my Prod using it's as delivered tune I started doing penetration tests and increased the Prod to about 18 fpe. I have had none run off since the power increase. My 177 and the Prod are about the same power and I had my P35-25 and my P35-22 at the same power (32 fpe) for a season. I think the bigger hole helps, definitely when moving up to a 22 from a 177 but less obviously going from 22 to 25. I shot 18 with the P35-25 when it was tuned to 32 fpe and two ran 15 -20 feet. They were both hit right in the front of the chest and the pellet stopped under the hide behind a rear leg. I think I only got one lung. All 10 hit with the P35-22 were DRT. But there were no equivalent front of chest hits. I also shot a couple with my 40+ fpe Avenger and they were DRT. I shoot about half my squirrels in the head and half in the body. Both work fine as long as the shot is placed properly. But I think larger calibers provide a little more margin for error. I hit a squirrel about at the hinge of the jaw once with my P35-25 and it dropped immediately. When I picked it up I found the skull was crushed. I don't think the P35-177 would have that effect. But it has done well in 20+ squirrels I've shot with it. I could not find one I shot in the rear end, however. But that was my bad placement. My dog found it later.

My criteria for penetration is 8-10 wet magazines of about 80 pages each. That is pretty close to a pass through on a squirrel (I tested on a couple dead ones). Something like my 177 or Prod does not have penetration margin enough to use expanding projectiles IMHO. But when you are using a 30+ fpe airgun you probably still have enough penetration even with an expanding projectile. But it would be good to test. Something like a Hybrid Slug might expand too much to still have good penetration. Maybe. Pass throughs are also a function of how much bone you hit. I had one squirrel stop a 21 grain pellet from my P35-22 tuned to about 32 fpe. The pellet broke both shoulders and stopped under the hide on the off side. The squirrel was DRT so it was 100% OK by me.

coastal drifter said:

Do cup-based work better than boat tail in pellet guns?

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Depends on the gun and the velocity.

Some do like base, some like domed, some like flat and some like a boat tail. WAY to many factors

kaylaindy said:

Wow, alot of those comments. We shot the gun at 48 and 70 yards. Don't worry. About 10 people complained about only shooting at 35 yards. I guess 12 minutes is too long for todays viewers. Actually, I get 25% watch time, (really bad). If I made 6 minute videos with all the same content I could possibly get 50% watch time (the bottom end of "good"). I just have a hard time charging what I charge for a 6 minute video. Time for a "Remix" channel to experiment with shorter content.

(Making videos?) 50%-80% watch time (Mr. Beast is 80%) + a CTR (click through rate) of 8% (very good) - 10%+(considered viral) will = every video you make will go viral, guranteed. This guy did it: https://www.youtube.com/@blockethoutdoors But kill channels are not my style. You can get those numbers talking about your Cat or reporting the News. Really anything. Just hit those numbers and the ads pay about $10k for every 1 million views. Easy money.

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What would make these type of videos (“reviews”) more valuable and therefore interesting to me would be:

- shoot at least a full mag over the chrony after filling (meaning including the first shot), even better a full fill and give us speed of the first shot, ES, SD and actual shot count.
- for guns with quick tune systems, power wheels and whatnot turn it down and shoot lighter ammo without changing anything else, again give us ES and SD just to see whether it’s actually usable that way and how sensitive the gun is to its tune.
- talk a bit more about the magazine and try different size ammo in it to see whether it cycles different ammo properly.
- skip reiterating the manufacturer specs. We know them (or can simply look them up). We wanna see whether they actually are true, in particular weight.

IMHO, this would provide way more insights than going over specs/features as per manufacturer and some shots at different distances. Obviously still want to see groups and you can shoot them while going over the chrony…

Scotty1 said:

Donnyfl makes an adapter to convert from metric bottle to SAE threads. View attachment 590701

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Thats awesome and good to know. No ammount of searching would pull this up. Maybe its time (or way past time) to abandon Google as a search engine.

elh0102 said:

Assuming the "power adjuster" is similar to that on the Sniper, it's a bit gimicky. It just restricts the air flow at the TP. It saves a bit of air, but isn't comparable to a proper lower power tuning. The trigger is very basic, and its adjustability can't compare to a more complex (and expensive) design. IMO it's a field trigger, and this should be a neat, compact hunting rifle, with very adequate power. The externally adjustable reg is a nice feature, but again, given what I see as a field rifle, once your tuning is done, it's done. I'm not throwing shade on what I see as a nice rifle, and probably a good value at its price point. If I compare it to a Daystate Revere, the Revere trigger is much better, which would sway me in that direction.

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As to the trigger, it is a good basic design that can easily be tuned fairly light ans certainly crisp. It is the faux 2 stage like a lot of airguns, which is not a bad thing, just a misnomer. Mine is less than a pound, likely far less, I've not measured it.

I see the power adjuster not as a tuning aid, but a quick change to lower velocity, as in a shot inside a barn, when the vast majority of shots will be at the full power tune. Lots of guns have a similar setup, but with a screw.

Of all the airguns I've owned, the Sniper is far and away the most reliable. I've read the Uragan is a tank, but the Sniper is a tank with a much simpler design. I've not known of anyone who doesn't like the Sniper, but it may not do what they want ie smaller, more powerful etc. They're just great guns.


I know it's cherry picked because the wind here is usually brutal, but this is a 100yd group with FX 18.1gr pellets fired with a 12x scope rested on the bed of my truck, no pads or bags, and these were the first 5 shots of the day after not shooting the gun for several days. I actually wanted the worst conditions to see what I could do. Not too shabby.

Just one follow up question, is the atom capable of handling 50 to 60 fpe out of my .22 k1 without affecting accuracy ?

I would get the gear to clean the barrel as my next move. Seems like you got everything else down.

Complied bu ChrisK book of bam:
Yes all parts Would be interchangeable with the same Daystate model Except the B50/51 is metric.






John

SpiralGroove said:

Hey Walther,
Beautiful Work - How does she shoot?

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Thanks, with its previous 8.2 inch barrel it shot .22 14.3 cp at 460fps and 1 inch groups at 35 yds.
With the new 12 inch barrel it gained 14.2 fps per inch so about 514 fps. After B Staley debounce mod it dropped to 495fps .
have not been able to get it outside to see how it’s grouping at long distance. But at 30 feet it’s one hole.

marflow 777 said:

time, money and a lot of work, imagination is shown there
i di see a lathe and that helps with some of the work as in making the tube end 90 degrees
for those who don't have a lathe you will find pipe collars and a disc sander for a drill will do the job

nice job tinkering i enjoy myself

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My little unimat lathe bore is too small for 12mm barrels so I have a system using my bench belt sander a gig to hold barrel and spin the barrel counter clockwise using a hand drill. Works really well. I use the lathe for making my airstrippers , shrouds and bolt handles as well milling operations as it is convertble to mill.

Hi,
don't you get annoyed by that rattle noise of the trigger? I took the trigger link part and dipped it in liquid rubber. When I reinstalled the part I put a little bit of grease on the side where it's touching the system and also on the ends at the screws to prevent from friction so that the rubber stays on for good. By the additional material (rubber) the trigger link is now much better integrated I'd say. No more rattle of course. Feels solid. There's a tiny, noticable feel of resistance in the trigger pull but in a positive way. No issues with trigger reset. Rapid fires works as always. I used a very dark red rubber coat I had left. It definitely makes a all black gun appear nicer.

Doc_pafumo said:

How is it possible to partially fill the plenum?

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Little difficult as u would have to tear down the gun….but i would do the calculations and drop a piece of well fitted nylon into it. Don’t want it rattling about in there
In this case I’d shoot for around 30cc of plenum. But that’s another just me