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❓ Acoustics Question: Projectile Flight Noise 𐃘 How to keep it down?

Basically, it is down to how much the air is disturbed. Pellets have a more complex shape than slugs, involving the air getting around more changes in direction, so you would expect them to generally be more noisy. However, hollow points are going to generate some noise, so large hollow point slugs could also be noisy. As both slugs and pellets have rifling marks, I cannot see this as being a major difference between them. Pellets such as the JSB Hades can be expected to produce more noise, or anything which has cuts or marks on the nose to disturb the airflow.

As for reducing the noise, smooth boat tailed slugs with no meplat on the nose fired at relatively low speeds are probably as low as you are likely to get. An accurate round is likely to be less noisy than a round which is yawing, which will itself disturb the airflow. As for .177 being quieter than larger calibres, this may be true, but if the airflow remains laminar along the entire length there will be more base drag and turbulence which may cause a problem. It will all be down to the individual designs.


Miles,

I really had hoped you would chime in! 😊
I have a lot of conjectures and uneducated guesses.
The voice of a pro is great to have around! 🫱🏻‍🫲🏼


One of my need-to-be quiet shooting scenarios would be with the Altaros Smooth slugs.
.25cal
49.50gr
850fps MV (=79FPE)
domed slug
no hollow point


Applying your post to this, it might be one of the quieter setups. 👍🏼


Matthias


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bruh.. such a long wait

terrifs possibly? also Canada and Hawaii are two different countries and that's international.
Mark
prolly tariffs. just wanted to share my impatience with the forum. about a year ago when i was still living in california, i was able to get same day delivery on lots of stuff. now in hawaii i have to wait at least a few days for items ordered. the cost of paradise.. no squirrels or crows here either.
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AirMaks Arms  Caiman / Katran uit?

I got this one from Arthur E Brown company years ago for my Cayman. Still on there still works great. I think I had to shorten the screws a bit.
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Wiring for a TXED012 compressor

I am using Royal Purple compressor oil. I used distilled water in my Yung Hang and it lasted 4 years, so I am using that plus a coolant . I located my water tank on the same level as the compressor. I heard that the thing that wears out these little pumps is having to push the water up 36 inches from the floor to the compressor ir it is on a table or bench.
I was using Royal Purple compressor oil , but after doing research on the oil
I learned that it is not a breathing oil like the Seco , plus the seco has a 150 viscosity over the 100 of RP. It is also a very clean clear oil , and does not leave carbon deposits. I did a forum post called Royal Purple Ice advice where the that , and the oils are dissuced in depth. I filled a 8.6 liter , and the highest temp I reached was 120°F.

New Air Gunner Here

Welcome to AGN. I’ve learned a lot about airgun shooting and how far it’s come since I was kid. Lots of good people here. I’m going to be a bit contrary and say that I wouldn’t use an airgun to shoot coyotes. Strictly my opinion and many will disagree but if I’m going to shoot an animal I want it going down instantly and not running away to die a slow death. I feel confident that will happen with a good centerfire but not confident enough for an air rifle at a distance of more than about 30-40 yards. For me a 30/30, .308, .270, something like that is my go to for dealing with anything bigger than a raccoon. It looks like you have some excellent rifles there, enjoy.

Rick H.
Fair points and I do agree with only taking ethical shots. I usually go with a buddy one of us on long range with a 243 or a 6.5 creed, the other on short range which would be with an air rifle, shotgun, or 9 mm carbine. going solo with only a pcp would be closer range only.

FX  FX Impact liner decision

Correct to both of you.
I spend hundreds of NSA slugs, 43-55gn trying all kind of speeds with absolutely zero luck, 2-3 slugs will go in one hole at 40 yards then rest are flyers, I had zero luck with NSA slugs, have not tried hybrids.
I figure I'll just stick to pellets, 44-50 JSB worked well in 850-870, FX pellets not doing good ether.

I thought maybe new 1:40 liner can be more forgiving.

I worked in 10FPS increments, but again, it takes hundreds of pellets figuring this out.

Thank s for feedback.

if anyone else have any feedback, please post.
Thank you all
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What is the process to accept payment on classified?

Insure it to the full amount. Shipping prices are pretty nuts at times but might save you incase its "lost". I am probably selling my setup soon to get a larger bore, With powder / airguns unless im buying from a major online supplier I deal with people in person only.
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Newbie Budget Suggestions

I’ve never met an air gunner who has stuck to a budget so if you do!! Hats off. It’s an easy hobby to lose yourself to. CV LIFE is good entry but a cheaper Night vision say vision might be the way to go….. soon enough you’ll be shooting in the dark more than the light
Well I’m already over budget on this gun haha and there’s still many things I want to do to it. The most important will be porting the block but I can do that by myself. Since this is my first PCP I’ll never get rid of it for sentimental purposes. It’ll eventually be a $450 gun with like 2k-3k put into it haha. I may have gotten lucky with the quality control gods cuz the thing is a dream to shoot… or I have low standards from lack of experience. Either way im happy haha.

I already do shoot a lot at night! I don’t bother trying to call coyotes around here during the day. It 100% can be done but these Utah dogs a very educated. I hunt them at night because I gives me way more of advantage. I don’t have an efficient way to change scopes out like @PumaCarl so I’m throwing money at the problem instead haha… looking for a day/night scope that looks good, records and gives me about magnification to shoot out to about 150yards. Hopefully the Zulus is the answer to that cuz it’ll be here tomorrow haha.

H&N heavy slugs on Fx M4 700mm

Hn 40gr .218 slugs on my 700mm m4 I had it on had it at 170 bar shooting high speed 960-980 but drop it down to 150 bar and it's has better groups at 940-960fps...and liked better grouping on .218 38gr at 930-950fps.

But still will keep doing tunes...

.217 at high speed didn't make good groups for me

I installed Huma hammer spring but makes to much power on low settings micro at 1-4 and makes a lot.
I have tried .218 and .217 at different speeds but this is what the worked best for me, i have a 800mm tensioned barrel and tried more than 10 heavy liners in 1:16 and 1:18 twistrate.
The best for me was a 1:16 twistrate.

And yes 1-4 on micro settings makes a lot but turnig on hammer valve return spring makes also a lot.
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Diana  The Diana OUTLAW Gen 2 is here! (Full Review) Video

I watched your review, I thought it was good. I am pretty sure it is made by SPA and may share many parts with my P35s. The tube looking tool is to remove the pressure gauge on the end of the airtube. You pull out the nut the gauge is on to change the regulator, I think (usually comes with the gauge). Or you can go in through the other end.

FX  DRS Pro .22 Cast Bullets?

Well I brought out the chronographs started playing with the Reg and hammer spring. now I can't shoot a 5" group at 50 yards. The crazy thing is the velocity is very uniform but bullets are scattered. I went up and down from about 980 down to 825. Like a dummy.I never chronographed before.I screwed with it. I ran a couple of swaps through the boar and everything seemed clean.
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Airforce  Tex rex

Shot 1 takes my tank from 4500 to 3500. Shot 2 drops it another 1000psi. The real problem with this is placement of shot two has dropped 4-6 inches. It only gets worse with every shot
Ya I have found that light slugs are the only way to work around it so far.. I'm trying some other things to see if I can get so closer shots at 100 yards
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Beeman  How often do you pay an inflated price for a rifle or don't make such purchases at all, only buy good deals?

I paid less for my 300s, and my two Diana75s than what a new TX200 costs. One I had resealed, two I had trigger work done. Still cheaper. As much as I love my TX200 I got a much better deal on the 3 I mention. Price was not a big issue, I wanted the accuracy they offered and the precision built into them. My LGU was the same price as a new TX and is overall a more solid feeling instrument, so I was fine with the price. Chances to buy these guns don't come along everyday. If You enjoy the sport the price will be woth it.

Umarex  Notos - Bubbles on regulator, and other questions

Hey Everyone!

So I did something kind of stupid and had to tear my Notos down. I have some questions
  • When i removed the air tube I noticed there were bubbles (see pic), should this be a concern? I removed the regulator and the air tube seemed dry, just lubed.
  • There is a lot of oil/lube on this thing, should I wipe it off and reapply? If yes what kind of lube/oil should I use?
  • I was attempting to turn down the regulator while I had it out to get more shots. The nut holding the adjustment screw in place seem really really tight, is that normal? Should I just try to man handle it to break it lose?
  • While I have it apart, is there any maintenance I should do or clean up? I don't really need more power, and this thing is only 2 weeks old brand new...
Also noticed that one of the barrel o rings are nicked, so might as well order a c88 plenum kit to get more air and a thread on this thing since I destroyed the moderator...

Thank you in advanced!


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