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GX CS4-I compressor

500 ml. And don't just use DW alone, as it will erode the aluminum over time. Must add either water wetter (my choice because it never freezes here) or AF 10-20% if warm where you are, (for better cooling), up to 50% if it freezes where you are.

Base you calculations on 500 ml and you'll know how much of each to add. Redline recommends 1.8%~3.1% ratio with DW. That's about 9-15 ml of WW to 500 ml DW.
I contacted factory support. The GS cs4 holds 300 ml, not 500 ml as the manual says. GX said they will update the manual.
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Rti mora - under bottle rail is weak

Any heavy duty rails that can be added to the rti mora? Their bottle guard rail is flimsy. Way too much give.

Screenshot_20250727_183812_Gallery.jpgsaber tactical arca bottle clamp. There is currently no aftermarket full length arca rail that i know of. Mounting my tripod directly to the bottle is much better than the m lock shield

N/A  Another newbie looking for advice

I have an Avenger, first generation, and I think it's a good rifle for the price as long as you do not mind it's nearly 4 foot length. It is LONG. But also powerful and decently accurate. I have a 25 caliber tuned to about 50 fpe and it could go higher. I leaked when I got it but was fixed under warranty and has given me no more problems. But it does not get shot much because of the length. It was my second PCP (my first was a Prod which I still have and like but it is not an all around gun in my view (but for similar reasons I would say the same thing about a NOTOs (too limited in power and shot count but loads of fun)).

My third, fourth, and fifth PCPs were Snowpeak (SPA) P35s. Stoeger Bullsharks are very similar. I really prefer short light bullpups. Under $500. The 177 makes about 18 or 19 fpe, the 22s will make 25-30+ depending on what pellet they like, and the 25s are good for low to mid 40s. I have been struggling for literally years to get a reliable 50 fpe out of a couple and my recommendation is to not try. If you really need 50 fpe or more I recommend a different gun. But a 25 tuned to 32 fpe was my first and only bullpup for a squirrel season and it took 18 for me. Very effective. But the 22 can make this much power and I have also found them very effective. A 25 tuned to low 40s would be capable of a bit more but for squirrels I don't think I need that power. I've shot at least a 197 now with all 3 of my P35s and my one Bullshark on the 30 yard challenge. They are literally as accurate as my $1400 Caiman X with it's CZ barrel. They will not make as much power as the Caiman nor is their shot count as high but they are lighter and loads of fun to shoot.

If you prefer longer non-bullpups the Stoeger Scout and Ranger are similar, I think, to the P35s and probably make similar power. Plenty for squirrel/rabbit sized game and target shooting.

The absolute least expensive way to get into this, I think, is a Notos and a handpump. I started with a Prod with a handpump, there was no Notos then. I think the Prod may be better in some ways but it costs about twice as much now and has less power and no regulator so it also has disadvantages. The big advantage from a cost standpoint is these guns store little air so in my opinion a hand pump is a very viable option. I did it for months with my Prod and did not get a compressor until I purchased the Avenger. Three times as much air at 1.5 times the pressure was just too much for me hand pumping. But the little Prod only needs a pump or two per shot and it isn't hard to pump to 3000 psi. You will only get 20-25 shots before needing to refill but that would be a good day hunting for me and is a decent plinking session. They are also very shot light guns and I find my Prod to be loads of fun. It's also taken 18 squirrels for me but I found the stock tune to be too low for this. The Notos should be fine stock.

There are lots of compressors. I have a Yong Heng I use to refill a 45 minute Scott air pack. It's a nice way to fill guns but it is not an inexpensive option. The YH is inexpensive for a bottle compressor but it needs modification to add cooling IMHO (but just putting a lot of ice in the cooling water apparently works too) and a bottle and fill set are not cheap. Much less expensive is a GX CS2 which I also have and like. About $250 delivered by GX. A refill of my SPA guns is about 5 minutes using the extra cost GX filter which may not be necessary. A CS3 is mechanically mainly the same as a CS2 but it is in a metal box and adds auto shutoff. The CS4 is water cooled and capable of filling at least small bottles. There is also a CS5 which is recommended by GX for bottles.

As I often do I let this get long so I will also give you a much shorter version. Get a Stoeger Scout or Bullshark in 22 and a GX CS2 or 3. You will easily stay under $1000 and you will have a lot of fun with them. You will not need to do a lot of maintenance but should expect to do a little tuning to the rifle, replace O-rings every few years, and add a little grease periodically to the compressor.

N/A  Damage from slug energy

Thanks for the answer, I bought the Beeman Commodore 13625, offered more value to me, 2 magazines, scope (cheap but works), larger shot count, only $211 on Amazon.
Yeah, Beeman
are very good rifles. I have an under labor in 22 and I love it. It just shoots and shoots and shoots. IBeamons are very good rifles. I have a under labor in 22 and I love it. It just shoots and shoots and shoots. I have a set up. For cheap pallets like Crossman all I needed to add was a suppressor. I have more accurate rifles and I have more powerful rifles but for the money, yes can be Beeman

Ballistics calculations

With Strelok pro just use trajectory validation

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That’s sort of what I meant but not. The way certain archery programs do this is:

Measure peep height above the center line of the arrow while at full draw. This would be the same as scope height above the bore.

Provide an approximate drag model from the arrow..shaft length, weight, and OD, with fletching type and offset. This would be the equivalent of a drag model and BC.

Sight in at distance one. Record the sight mark on the sight scale. This would be the same as the up/down turret reading on the scope.

Sight in at distance two, adjusting the up/down turret until zero is established for the second distance.

The program can now calculate a start velocity from the provided data that should match the trajectory for the scope height and the two marks.

Brocock/BRK  Is Brocock Ghost Carbine a good choice for HFT competition?

Just under stand short guns such a Bull pups are much harder to be stable with than a long gun ( Typical rifle length ) This due to support distance Shoulder to Fore stock being shorter too.
It can be done successfully with much attention paid to getting rock solid stable in your shooting position & making sure no CANT exists as the taller optics position is far more sensitive to getting it crooked having Cant.
This is actually a good point that I looked at differently and that's Ghost's weight. Would a heavier gun have an advantage in this situation? Because its not about actual hunting, which would require carrying the gun around, but rather hitting the target for scores.

N/A  Another newbie looking for advice

Hi ya'll. I've been lurking here for years and am finally deciding to get into pcp's. I'm a long time gun hunter and shooter, do some reloading and have shot a lot of 3-D archery. My old bones are making 3D difficult and I'd like to have a shooting sport I could do on my small hunting plot if I didn't feel like putting all the gear together to go to the gun range. So, here we are. I imagine that some folks may be annoyed by these "where do I start threads" but we all have to start somewhere, so I appreciate your help and patience.

First, I want dependable stuff. While I like to tinker, I do not want to have to be working on stuff all the time to keep it going. Of course, my biggest concern is compressors. I will never spend much time rebuilding compressors ; I think that would kill my interest in the sport. Is it reasonable to think that a moderately priced unit (GX 3-I for example) would likely be reliable for filling 1-2 bottle fed rifles a few times a week ?

Next for a gun. I'm looking for light, reliable with high shot count. I'm talking a plinker, walk-around squirrel gun that I'll also shoot paper with out to maybe 75ish. I'm torn between a budget rifle to see if I really like it or jumping into a higher-end rifle as a do-all , at least for now. I like what I see with the shorter Stoeger XM1 in 22 with a 40ish regulated shot count. I've been in the archery rabbit hole for years so I kinda know where this is headed, lol. I like the bottle version of the FX Dreamline as well but I know there's a bunch of good choices in between these two.

I'm trying to be smart about starting out on this but there are so many options it's almost overwhelming. The amount of knowledge people have on this site is tremendous and I appreciate your input.
A shoebox compressor will be fine, and will last for years if you take care of it. Something in the $600+ range would be a great first rifle. I spent $350 and wished I spent a little more on my first. I quickly out grew it, wanting a regulated pcp for more consistency. That being said I still had fun with it, and I learned with it.

N/A  Another newbie looking for advice

Hi ya'll. I've been lurking here for years and am finally deciding to get into pcp's. I'm a long time gun hunter and shooter, do some reloading and have shot a lot of 3-D archery. My old bones are making 3D difficult and I'd like to have a shooting sport I could do on my small hunting plot if I didn't feel like putting all the gear together to go to the gun range. So, here we are. I imagine that some folks may be annoyed by these "where do I start threads" but we all have to start somewhere, so I appreciate your help and patience.

First, I want dependable stuff. While I like to tinker, I do not want to have to be working on stuff all the time to keep it going. Of course, my biggest concern is compressors. I will never spend much time rebuilding compressors ; I think that would kill my interest in the sport. Is it reasonable to think that a moderately priced unit (GX 3-I for example) would likely be reliable for filling 1-2 bottle fed rifles a few times a week ?

Next for a gun. I'm looking for light, reliable with high shot count. I'm talking a plinker, walk-around squirrel gun that I'll also shoot paper with out to maybe 75ish. I'm torn between a budget rifle to see if I really like it or jumping into a higher-end rifle as a do-all , at least for now. I like what I see with the shorter Stoeger XM1 in 22 with a 40ish regulated shot count. I've been in the archery rabbit hole for years so I kinda know where this is headed, lol. I like the bottle version of the FX Dreamline as well but I know there's a bunch of good choices in between these two.

I'm trying to be smart about starting out on this but there are so many options it's almost overwhelming. The amount of knowledge people have on this site is tremendous and I appreciate your input.
Where are you in Ky bud. I have shot alot of 3d archery myself, shot with plenty of current and past pros as well. I live down in Somerset. I have a few pcps you are welcome to shoot anytime.

What pistol did you shoot today

Today was a fun day…nor including work that skunked…took out the least expensive pistol in my arsenal but it is one of my most enjoyable to shoot..it gets almost 80 shots per cartridge…My Crosman 357 Magnum in .177…played some Dirty Harry Today….Are you feeling lucky….”Make My Day”.…lol…the ones that missed were actually pimples for the real effect…lol

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AEA CENTER PUNCH 18.3GR. 22CAL

What do you think of them and in what grain. Been thinking of ordering some of them for 100yrd shooting. I just received my order yesterday od 10 500 tins of the 22cal 18.3gr. Shot about a 100 at 70yrds turned do a my tune and was getting 10shot bullseye groups on the Diamond 8inch reflective targets with no flyers. I got the from the pellet shop. $180 however yesterday airguns of Arizona left a message saying they just got their's in and price was considerably less expensive.
Go over to the hunting forum you'll see the results of 100+ yard AEA pellets and slugs on my post.

HW/Weihrauch  HW35E-Great Rifle

I think calling it a bayern stock is nicer (1973)

Amazing HW don't capitalize on bringing that back over a silly anniversary edition . Opinion
You are correct, "Bayern" ("Bavarian") is the proper term for the classicallly German rounded lines and "stretched hexagon" cheekpiece of that lovely stock. "Luxus" ("luxury") was just HW's marketing tag for the model.

In the late 70's, the Luxus stock changed over to a completely different look - flat-sided fore end, Monte Carlo comb, and curved cheekpiece. The "squared up" look was all the rage then, LOL, and that stock is nice too - but the Bayern is to my eye the best ever on the 35.

Wadcutter: It's really not fair that such a beautifully styled stock should also have such awesome wood! :oops: Dayam that's gorgeous...

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