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NAProf · Jun 19, 2025

dan_house said:
Im conflicted about this.......
Im sure it would add some points to my score. But.... it's one more thing to carry around and manage while your in the shooter's box and "on the clock". If you become dependent on it, then it dies during the match, you're back to doing it the old method anyway

Ive shot matches with some _very_ talented shooters. the kind of folks who only miss 5 over the course of a two-day match. Handing those kinds of talent a range finder could/will lead to courses being cleaned. Course designers and match directors will then start upping the difficulty levels to prevent that, making it even harder on shooters who aren't as proficient.

IMO there are other ways to grow the sport, but that's for another thread.......

Concurr!

MRG · Jun 19, 2025

How can I tell if mine is a 603 or 603 junior?

tibor · Jun 19, 2025

Dstrac said:
I've had my Mora .25 standard for a few weeks. It's the most accurate gun I've ever shot. Fps is very consistent

ever shoot a fx panthera?

tibor · Jun 19, 2025

downside..pellet waste.

HunterWhiteHead · Jun 19, 2025

I just ordered some pellets from Pyramid Air, they shipped from Salt Lake City, Utah.

Hunter

JimD · Jun 19, 2025

If you know you have a convenient and reasonably priced place to get your tank filled then and only then does it make sense, in my opinion, to buy a DOT approved tank. My issue is just that the technical basis for the DOT regulations was never great and has now essentially been disproved. The Navy proved that the regulations are grossly conservative. But they are laws and commercial establishments that fill expired tanks could get in trouble.

If you do not have place to get your tank filled, then I don't see why it makes sense to pay extra to get a DOT approved tank. A Chinese tank approved to European standards or an expired fireman's bottle seems to me to be a better way to spend money. Tests have demonstrated there is a lot of margin in carbon fiber reinforced tanks. The biggest cause of failure in Navy tanks was damage to the threads of the tests caused by hydro testing. No injuries no catastrophic failures. LOTS of experience.

Until somebody forces DOT to pull their head of their behind we are stuck with this silly situation.

Chuck26287 · Jun 19, 2025

This listing has been renewed

blackdog899 · Jun 19, 2025

Motorhead said:
I had made years ago a SKIRT straightening tool that was made to make skirts round again without making them flared out or larger in diameter.
By playing with a Lathes compound angle finding the matching angle of skirts I.D. made up a few of these tools for the different pellets being shot frequently.
Still use a few of them to this day and am sold on the premise it helps accuracy and saves otherwise damaged pellets in general.

Light pressure and a twist Back-N-Forth your done recreating a pellet accurate in skirt dimension as it was produced.

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I think there would be a market for these.

IKnowNutin · Jun 19, 2025

Congrats! I don't know why the Katrans are not more popular, at least on the forum. They're relatively cheap. I think the reg issues from the Kraits was bad PR for Airmaks. I would not hesitate to purchase one again now. They are light, sturdy and accurate. I've got a .25 LB that just drills Heavy Mk II's at 60FPE. I love the smooth solid feeling actions and being able to cycle them easily with a finger.

pan60 · Jun 19, 2025

about the same around here the last few years but then again FedEx and UPS are no better fact is for me I would arguable they are horible through pages from the truck into the drive, drop at the wrong address, wrong town and yess even the wrong city. once in a field in the rain so I think they are all horrific.

CoyoteGod · Jun 19, 2025

I agree with the general consensus that semi-auto is a not necessarily needed but are cool to have. I have had two in my hobby journey. An LCS19 and a Huben. The LCS was not all that accurate and was underwhelming. The Huben was much more accurate and was fun, and did provide me some needed fairly accurate followup shots on game a few times. I don’t have any semi-autos now and don’t miss them.

dan_house · Jun 19, 2025

Im conflicted about this.......
Im sure it would add some points to my score. But.... it's one more thing to carry around and manage while your in the shooter's box and "on the clock". If you become dependent on it, then it dies during the match, you're back to doing it the old method anyway

Ive shot matches with some _very_ talented shooters. the kind of folks who only miss 5 over the course of a two-day match. Handing those kinds of talent a range finder could/will lead to courses being cleaned. Course designers and match directors will then start upping the difficulty levels to prevent that, making it even harder on shooters who aren't as proficient.

IMO there are other ways to grow the sport, but that's for another thread.......

Zach · Jun 19, 2025

This listing has been renewed

ChickenDumpling · Jun 19, 2025

25 yards, CPHP 14.3, bench with front bed pillow supports, wind likely under 10mph, but much lower when I zeroed for the wife. I don't recall how many shots taken. She learned that a black reticle on a black small target took an adjustment. Out of the family of 4, 3 liked and 1 firmly stated sticking with her Diana 34 (yes, teenage stuff). Can't shoot a pcp with a scope the same as a springer with irons. AN, I'm seriously consider letting go of my L2 to fund a Katran or Krait now. Oh, I'm steeling the wife's thunder in this posting. This is HER target and she wants to hold on to it:

TomJ · Jun 19, 2025

Why is a mildot scope preferable to MOA? What is the rationale?

NAProf · Jun 19, 2025

EPG said:
Speaking of Crowns... I swapped the 700mm barrel off of my .22 Crown and swapped the 500mm back on.

I had been shooting heavier pellets with the long 700mm barrel since last fall. The rifle shoots great with the 700mm, but it was always insanely accurate with the 500mm shooting 18.13g.

I was texting Greg and Tommy after I did the swap. Sighting it in with the 500mm, I shot 1 group at 40 yards - 5 shots measured .126" center to center - I texted it to Tommy and Greg and said it was now time for a card...

...Tommy texted back and said that I better shoot a 240, lol.

Well, first card with the .22 Crown at 500mm is a leaderboard submission for 40-Challenge (but not a 240):
197 11X
.22 Crown Mk 2 (500mm)
FX 18.13g at 900fps (FX Chrono)
Sightron SII 36X fixed power.

Here is a picture of the current state of my two Crowns. The blue one is using Greg's (NAProf) 380mm .177 barrel. The green one is the .22 500mm. I recently swapped the 480cc bottle on the green Crown to 580cc. Both Crowns bought off the AGN Classifieds. The blue one came with a synthetic stock but had the big 580cc bottle. I found the blue stock used on the AGN Classifieds. Both rifles are insanely accurate as per my leaderboard submissions. I've done some modest work on both rifles refining them (even improvements to the crummy FX triggers) - but if your looking to target shoot with pellets, its hard to beat a used Crown or Dreamline for the money.

-Ed

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Ed,
I think the 380mm barrel on the Crown looks awesome! With the moderator it has the look of a hunting carbine, but shoots like a target rifle. A lot of folks pooh-pooh the Superlight barrel system, but I think it makes a lot of sense.

Adding mass to the barrel doesn't damp the vibrations, it only moves the natural frequency lower (maybe out of the range of the exciting frequency). Retaining the barrel at specific positions along its length with o-rings limits the y and z axis motions (but not rotational motions), effectively creating a node. Changing the vibration mode shape by introducing nodes can decrease vibration amplitude. The weak point is the system is only as robust as the shroud. So I am very careful not to whack the barrel when using my Crown for FT.

Sorry for the engineering musings.

Cheers,
Greg

P.S. - I am trying to design a Crown-type liner retaining system for the DRS.

Iowa Airgunner · Jun 19, 2025

Thanks. I just needed to get my head around it. I have a couple wheels and scopes and I also think I have one on backwards.

Iowa Airgunner · Jun 19, 2025

At the DIFTA group they had a great cookout after the match. The cooking would start towards the end of the match. Then everyone would pitch in cleaning up the course. By the time the score was tabulated we had sausage and burgers chips and soda. No one had to run off to get lunch . And you could all talk about the day.

dk-duck · Jun 19, 2025

SciueraPlumbea said:
go to your email they should have provided a link. If not sign into your huma account it will be on there. theyre very good with shipping to us in the states.. I don't know how well the royal mail works. But, when i order from krale or huma i get my package in 4 days, when i order from B&K or bestfittings it takes 10-12

thank you for your help mate

yeah me and my partner went to whatapp and we had a reply and they've sent us the tracking now, and it hasn't even left their country as yet

, I did think it would be somewhere like that, I don't really mind the wait tbh, and yes best fitting's is the uk because I've had parts from them for a different gun, I've not ordered from krale as yet, but there the same place as huma aren't they? but still from bestfittings it's not a bad wait time though really is it, do you mind me asking what you shoot? are you a hunter or just someone who like's just shooting a few can's in your back garden, thank you for your help once again

all the best Dave, I'm not sure how to pronounce your name (sorry) do you have a nickname? thank you anyway.

HunterWhiteHead · Jun 19, 2025

If you show a picture of a flower growing up out of a pile of cow poop,
The optimist sees a flower,
The pessimist sees poop( or ants),
The realist sees both.
Nice Cricket!
I see Crickets!
Nice RAW!,
Nice AA410!
Hunter

AAC98881973 · Jun 19, 2025

elwoodblues said:
Why don't you get it hydro tested cost's about 30 bucks, What city are you in or near?

richmond virgina

Bramezy · Jun 19, 2025

Iowa Airgunner said:
I just started a club in Iowa and no one knew about field target at the first match. I am really excited to see how the second match goes. Everyone was very excited about it and seemed to have fun.
As soon as I built the shooting range I looked around and noticed there was no place for everyone to sit. Seems like a picnic table is mandatory. Everyone can just sit and talk because the noise is so low. I always enjoy having a couple burgers after the match while we take everything down and do the scoring. It is a big part of the airgun field target experience.

Ive been saying we need to grill out!! Some hot food would be awesome after shooting.

Slantsigfan · Jun 19, 2025

I have the similar HW80 in both .20 and .25, and let one go in .177 since it was too much for that little pellet. The .20 works better than the .22 I had for a little bit, as HW barrels are just weird in .20. In .25 it is my go to rifle for pesting and squirrels. I prefer iron sights and the trajectory isn’t hard to get used to.

Bramezy · Jun 19, 2025

humbled.ag said:
When I started the closest match was a 2 hour drive. The next closest was 3.5 hours away. While putting more miles than a sane person should on my car to attend matches states away another shooter and I started our own club ten(+?) years ago. We held matches on a small property between corn fields. Now we have 6 clubs that are two hours or less away from me, and most other shooters in the area. It took a lot of work and patience but you can have matches close to you too.

I have one club close but there is not enough interest at this club or the one 130 miles away to generate any more clubs in the area. Itr is what it is. We have been trying to grow the local one and its just not. So, IF I want to shoot FT, I more often than once a month, I must travel. Just sucks but such is life!

JohnTaylor · Jun 19, 2025

Iowa Airgunner said:
I am looking for a new scope and side wheel combination for field target. I really want a removable side wheel.
JD custom is what I have now. It is great. But I’m shopping around while they are restocking inventory.
I just discovered that the coma side wheels come in two directions. If the parallax wheel turns clockwise to increase magnification it is one type and if turning counter clockwise increases magnification it is the other style.
Can someone please show a picture of how it should be set up.

The coma side wheels are generally positioned so the tighter radius is used at the shorter distances, progressing to a broader radius at the farther ranges, giving the operator more space between yardages…good luck with your new setup. John

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