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Seeking help with accuracy problem

Howdy -

I'm a noobie here, looking for some help with an accuracy problem with my Walther Talon. But first, I'll tell y'all a little bit about me.

I'm 72, retired and loving it, never married (but got a great GF!). I'm an AF vet, former air traffic controller. I collect guns and have several air rifles, mostly springers and a few CO2. I'd love to have a nice Leshy, but that's above my pay grade! I have a Banjamin 317 I got when I was 11 years old - I've shot enough birds with it to fill up the bed of my Ram. I had the guts replaced several years ago, and it shoots as well as ever.

Anyway, about my Walther Talon Magnum in .22. It's an awesome gun, but I couldn't hit the side of a barn with it if I were locked inside with a case of pellets. I've tried open sights and a variety of scopes, several different brands and weights of pellets, but it's all over the place. I sent an email to Umarex about it, but never have heard back.

If any of you good folks can give me some help with this, I would very much appreciate it!

The Glorious Satisfying “THWACK” Of A .30 Cal.!!

I’m sure this is old news to many of you… but .30 Cal. is a new addition for me in my personal arsenal, and all I can say is WOW!
I would certainly not want to be on the receiving end of one… as a pest, or a rimfire spinner!
I think Im going to need to upgrade to a CF-rated gong plate to withstand sustained punishment? HaHa!

Feel free to show off your .30 and share some details about it if you have one, and I’m certain everyone would love to see the carnage on your reactive targets ect. 🤙

My only contribution for now is a nearly new second hand first generation Uragan, and let me just say I have no buyers remorse!

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So you want a .177 Cayden…

So you want a .177 Cayden… and they only come in .22…
I recently bought this Reximex Daystar .177 from an AGN member via the classifieds here. It is essentially a Benjamin Cayden .177 – with a nicer shaped stock than a Cayden, IMHO.

It was bought for his wife, owned briefly and sold to me – she wanted a 12 ft/lb rifle.
I can see why she didn’t like the Daystar out-of-the-box…

…I cleaned the barrel filled to 250 bar and took 28 shots (2 magazines). It was shooting 10.5g pellets at 1,025 fps (with the “power adjuster” – transfer port restrictor on full open). It went from 250 to 190 bar on those 28 shots – so it was using a massive 31psi per shot – for 10.5g .177 !

Needless to say, with the hammer hitting the valve that hard it was loud and felt “loud”. It also had an “elephant” 2.2 pound trigger pull weight !! Turning down the “power adjuster” would reduce velocity – but not improve efficiency or loudness, as the hammer was still pounding the valve hard with each shot…

I have extensive experience with tuning these rifles, so I took off the stock (one bolt) and checked – sure enough the hammer spring adjustment screw was backed all the way out – and the rifle was still shooting WAY to fast. It was obviously oversprung – just like the Benjamin Akela / Cayden / Kratos are. I guess it’s Kral’s concession to marketing to put these oversize hammer springs in their rifles – so they can advertise “big power”.

I knocked out the pin, popping out the adjuster and hammer spring. The spring measured 3.1”. At least it was shorter than the crazy 3.5” long spring that comes in the .177 Akela. As you can see in the pictures, the spring is identical in diameter and wire thickness to the Benjamin springs – not surprising as they all come from the same factory (made by Kral).

I was on my lunch hour, so popped in a 2.7” spring that I had cut down for my Cayden (I’m currently using a custom spring I made in my Cayden). I would have used a 2.57” spring – as I know that is about optimal for .177 in these rifles – but I didn’t have one handy – and I wanted to do a quick trigger job during lunch. Eventually I will put in a 2.57” spring.

As the pictures show, the trigger is identical to the Cayden / Akela / Kratos. It’s a very nice trigger, once you polish up the contact points and adjust the sear engagement. This Reximex Daystar was finished a bit nicer on the trigger than the Benjamin rifles, as a couple of the components didn’t have the black stuff on them – they at least were semi shiny steel. I used my Dremmel to get rid of all the black coating and polish up the key contact areas to 3000 grit (mirror like).

After the polish, I was able to adjust the trigger pull weight down to about 15 ounces – turning in the adjustment screw until it wouldn’t cock and then slightly backing it off till it cocked. I like 6 ounces – so I cut ½ a coil from the end of the “1st stage” spring by the trigger and 1/3 coils (just a tiny bit) from the 2nd stage spring. Amazing difference – I was able to get down to a consistent 2.8 ounces (!) – and still pass the bump test ! I backed to off to about 4.8 ounces. Done for a quick first “trigger tune”. Everything took 1 hour. (I may go back to the 2.8 ounces – it felt freakin’ awesome).

After work I shot 7 ten shot groups – filling to just 205bar and shooting down to 125 bar. That’s 70 shots using 80bar – this equates to 16.5 psi per shot. So by cutting the spring from 3.1” to 2.7”, the efficiency improved from 31 psi per shot to 16.5 psi per shot – roughly double the efficiency with that quick change. I know from experience that using a 2.57” spring with .177 in these rifles will give an efficiency of about 11.5 psi per shot (shooting 10.3g pellets at 890fps).

Note that the 1st 65 shots had a 13 fps spread !! The rifle’s sound volume was MUCH quieter – as it was using ½ the air per shot now.

Also, I will try filling above the 205bar that I used for the shot string (max fill is 250 bar !) – I may be able to get 90+ shots with a less than 20fps spread – with the 2.7” spring (and well over 100 shots with the proper 2.57” spring).

As you can see, the 10-shot groups were all under a dime (one flyer). Groups 6 and 7 were getting tighter as the velocity dropped into the lower 890s. Next groups I’ll try shooting 870 fps – and see if the groups get tighter.

Finally, check out the tiger stripes on the Turkish walnut stock. I’ll strip the factory finish off and then hand rub in an oil finish with Tru-Oil – and this thing will look incredible !!

These rifles are super simple to work on, cost under $500 on sale and are very reliable (due to their simple design). Being unregulated, you still get an awesome flat shot string (even this quick tune got me 65 shots with a 13 fps spread) – better than many/most sub $500 rifles WITH regulators. These Krals have excellent valving and great triggers (once you polish them up). The power adjuster on this Daystar has detents and works very nicely. The barrels are accurate. I’d highly recommend these rifles to anyone getting into PCPs or for a reliable hunting rifle.

I use them for target shooting – I’ve scored 198 with the Cayden and 192 with the Akela in the “30 Yard Challenge” on AGN damn good accuracy.

I shot my 1st 30 Yard Challenge card with the Daystar tonight after work - using just a 14x scope… 189 8X … not bad since I’ve got less than 150 shots on the rifle.

-Ed

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Toys that shoot

Okay I'm thinking of heading to toys that shoot Saturday. I've never been to an airgun show before and am wondering if it's worth the drive. I want to pick up another gun, have a couple in mind, but having never been I'm wondering what kind of used gun selection I can expect. Any advice or comments from those that have been would be appreciated.

PCP Rifle  NLA HUBEN K1 .22 Walnut 2023 >>>>> ROCK BOTTOM<<<<<<<<<

Like new Dee-Lux model. I’ve only shot maybe 200 ish pellets.I bought this from Kelly at KrazCool. He did his usual set up procedure and installed a bipod pic rail and improved loading gate. I mounted a Optisan CP 3-12 x32 P scope with West Hunter adjustable height scope rings.
This gun came in the last batch that Kelly got. It shoots a ragged hole at 35 yards.I haven’t shot it thru a Chronograph. I want to sell it as a package deal first but I will listen to any offers or ideas. I will post pictures tomorrow but I just wanted to post this tonight while I had some time.
$1950.00 for package deal shipped
$1650.00 for rifle only
The first “I’ll take it” gets it.
I prefer USPS MONEY ORDER or Cashiers check.

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How to hide explosives in a target - Video and Procedure

The resulting video for this ended up in the April Shooting Challenge, but I thought that it may be interesting to someone how I "hid" the Firebird inside the packaging...so I could blow up the box too and not make it obvious that I had explosives in there. First off, here is the final video from the shooting challenge:

Here is the grossness as bought:
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I opened the box from the bottom, and took out the plastic holder. I cut the shape of the firebird out of the plastic:
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Here is how it looked in the box:
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I cut the back of the box out:
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I stuck the Firebird to a hard surface as shown:
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I put a bunch of double-sided tape on the box and stuck it over the Firebird on the target, so it looked like the candy was just stuck to the target:
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One thing to note is that I put a TINY dot right over the Bunny's nose where the center of the Firebird is. I did this so I wouldn't miss the center.

Anyway, this could be a fun prank, but for me, I just wanted an excuse to vaporize some of the grossest candy I have ever seen.

Cheers!

Jonathan

PCP Rifle  NLA WTT - for a AGT Vixen Short in .22

I have an FX Wildcat II in .22 caliber that I would trade for it. I shoot left handed and it has a 3D printed cheekrest on it and I will also send the original. Has 2 magazines and 2 magazine holders, FX silencer. Is not pellet picky, very accurate, and reliable. Scope ATHLON Argos BTR 6-24x50 FFP Mil, and rings, FX adjustable, are not included but could be purchased by trade partner for $250.00.

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PCP Rifle  SOLD FS: AAA .30 Evol Tactical

.30 Evol with PRS stock and 2 mags in perfect condition in and out; have been shooting it at 100 yards with groups of 1 inch, 3/4inch, and 1/2 inch and recently 0.40 inch (no wind!) Scope and bipod not included. I'm into airguns and crossbows and the pendulum is swinging to a crossbow which costs about twice as much as this Evol. I'm on the Old Yellow BOI and the new AGW BOI with all A++ transactions. Shipping is free CONUS. Asking $2100. I can send more photos of rifle and groups if desired. Thanks

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Fx impact M3 second reg slow recovery.

Hey everyone, i use a M3 in .25cal first reg at 175bar , second at 155 bar and use 41g slugs at 960-965fps on power setting 16 and for 33.95g king heavy mk2s at about 960fps i use power setting 10. Last night i was doing some chrono testing and i noticed the velocity would jump 10-15 fps higher when the second reg hadnt recovered properly ( it would stick at about 145bar) but after another shot was fired the plenum would refill properly and the second reg would then settle back to where it should be, thus giving me my normal expected velocity for the 33.95g pellets.
Is there anything i can do to remedy this slow reg recovery/sticking ? Would changing the second reg washer stack do anything? Or maybe install a huma reg??

PCP Rifle Internal Lube

I found this on Facebook by Steve Brew in the UK. It makes sense to me because it will keep the O rings from drying out and give some lubricity to metal surfaces rather than metal-on-metal contact. Rifle manufacturers are silent on this subject and I would like your and their opinion.

Steve Brew

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Tip of the week and secret disclosure of mine!
Ever wonder why you occasionally get low velocities or poor ES and SD’s, keep reading.
So with PCP airguns we are supposed to use clean filtered dry air as a fuel source for our airguns.
However this does comes with a draw back because a PCP airgun consists of many moving parts and orings. Each time we shoot there is a blast of high pressure air that rushes through the system, regulators open and close each time we shoot, valves open and close, valve rods slide inside and through orings, oring expand and contract etc not to mention that the orings become work hardened and brittle over time.
Each time we shoot, the high pressure air blows out and drys out the system, (we hang out washing out side to dry in the wind!)
The high pressure, high flow air drys out the system and blows out the assembly lubricants.
Adding 1x little drop of pure silicone oil into the Foster fill port every 4-5 full fills will help reduce wear on all internal components of your air rifle. When you add a drop of silicone oil into the fill port and then fill up your gun bottle, the silicone oil atomises under high pressure.
Each time you fire a shot you essentially coat all your internals and moving parts of the rifle, regulator, valve rod, valves, friction surfaces etc etc
This not only prolongs the life expectancy of your internals but also keeps things moving more consistently due to less friction and stiction.
And your orings will last much longer also due to remaining more supple and pliable.
Just be mindful to use just 1x drop and dont use to much, more is not better and you only need a tiny amount as it atomises under pressure to form a oily mist.
Get some silicone oil and start adding it to your routine!
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JSB Exact Heavy .177 cal 10.34gr ? Change ?

Hello everyone,

I was down to 4 JSB Exact Heavy .177 cal 10.34gr pellets in a Tin and put them in a magazine and then opened a new Tin. I started to fill the magazine when I noticed that the new pellets looked different from the previous 4 from the Skirt view. Now I wish that I had saved the first four because I don’t have any of the “original” to compare the new ones with.

Anyway I had been shooting a 25-Yard MOA target and after filling the magazine I continued to shoot the target. First four shots all within the MOA Ring, and then the rest of my shots were all over the target. A few within the MOA Ring but the rest were all outside.

I am attaching two photos of the “new pellet” and wonder if anybody happens to have any of the older version and can take a photo like my two for a comparison.

Has anybody herd if JSB has changed the 10.34? I sure hope not I just bought 5 Tins and the old style have been extremely accurate.

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PCP Rifle  SOLD Huben K-1 Reduced

Selling a nice 2016 Huben K-1 .22cal semi auto. Its camo dipped with soft touch. Looks and shoots great. Included is the matching Sumo. Setup to shoot Jsb 18gr at 960fps and is very accurate. Also included it has a Huma Regulator installed and will send along the original. Mainly shot pellets from this one, have no experience with slugs from it. Asking $1250.00 shipped. Accept PayPal friends or family and USPS m.o.
Note- Scope and rings are not included.
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PCP Rifle  NLA Evanix Rex P .45

I’m getting away from my high caliber airguns, and this one has been a lot of powerful fun
Evanix Rex P.45
DonnyFL Ronnin air mod
African Air Ord magnum hammer spring kit
African Air Ord .45 super valve w/500 tank
2 butt stocks
And slugs from 350 gr to 155
Factory air tank included
No optics
Zero issues with this gun
$1000, willing to split shipping within CONTUS
Zelle or PayPal f/f or +3%

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A Simple, Graphic DOPE Charting "Application" for Mil-Dot Optics - No Installation Required!

Hey there folks,
I made this simple "application" for phones, that doesn't require an installation at all - whether you believe it or not, it's just a text file, that you can modify to your needs, or to your liking for that matter, and that's it. First of all, one you've put your pellet drop-off points (for individual distances, either in yds or in meters) on a piece of paper, then you can start positioning the drop points onto the reticle in the program, by coding them in yourselves. Of course, I'll have to explain how to do it first, since most of you probably aren't familiar with web coding technologies, such as: HTML, css, JavaScript, XML... et cetera.

Here's how this "program/app" looks in Google Chrome on my phone:

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OK, so the image below shows five paragraphs of code circled in red... by manipulating the 'cx' and the 'cy' values you can move the coloured dots, representing your DOPE/drop-off points, around, so that they'll correspond to the scheme on your piece of paper. The reticle that I have in most of my scopes is the Mil-Dot and that's why I decided to use that as a template for the reticle in the program. There are 5 distances for adjustment in the program, these are at 10, 25, 50, 75 and at 90 yards/meters, depending on what you'd like to go with. So, in order to adjsust the points with the code, you have to manipulate the values of the cx and the cy variables. To move a certain point horizontally, along the X axis, only change, or otherwise adapt, the values in the brackets following the variables... i.e. from cx="350" to cx="300" ... now you've moved an individual point to the left (adjust as much as you have to, in order to get the right, corresponding result). Same goes for verticality, example given; Adjust from cy="200" to cy="250" ...to go down, or from 200 to 160 to go up.

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I was using Notepad++ to make this, the code here is also opened with Note++.

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Now, I don't know if I can upload .HTML files here, google usually doesn't allow that, and that's why I'm going to upload a .txt file, that you have to rename from DOPE_sheet_plan.txt to DOPE_sheet_plan.html ...and that's it. From here on you can OPEN and EDIT the said .html file with either the basic notepad, or you can download Notepad++ for free and use that to edit the code. By the way, you can also rename and edit the file on your phones, even though it's probably going to be a bit more tricky to locate the needed lines of code for manipulating the dots. And of course, you can open the .html file on your phones with either Chrome, Mozzila or some other browser.

I hope you'll find this thing somewhat useful, I certainly do, because I usually forget scope holdovers on my guns and then I'm completely in the dark about my point of reference with aiming, or rangefinding for that matter. I uploaded this .html file on my phone and I'm using it quite often, I have to say... And since I found it useful, someone else here could find it so too.

The DOPE_sheet_plan.txt text file should be somewhere down here...

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PCP Rifle  NLA CUSTOM .357 EVANIX REX RIFLE +

Hello up for sale is a customized .357/9mm EVANIX REX BA RIFLE I bought new from New England Airgun but I asked for a regular rifle tank instead of the bottle. Comes with AAO AR handguard adapter and genuine noveske handguard. Equipped with a Tru glow quick detach arrow quiver and 5 arrows cut down and sized to fit. Spare springs and orings. 2 fill probes and 3d printed covers. Magpul grip with storage . Spare barrel and tank both 3600psi max fill. Plenty of slugs to go with it . I am looking to get $950 shipped OBO paypal all orginal parts and everything shown included.
Ask away. More pictures will be provided upon request

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