Need Opinions for a New Bull-pup!!

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    sharkman
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    Want to add to my collection and the one item that seems to be missing is a bull-pup. I have narrowed down my choices to The FX Impact, Taipan Mutant, Kalibrgun Colibri and FX Wildcat. Whatever I chose must have a regulator as standard. I am leaning towards the Impact due to the fine tuning that can be done. However, the Mutant, based on AGN discussions, seems to be a tack driver and looks insane with an LDC on the front. However I’m weary simply because of it’s past history (poor quality barrels and such). The Wildcat is probably my number 2 right now. Something about the Colibri really draws me to it and bolt forward design has me intrigued though I have heard it suffers at times from blow back issues so I’m kind of weary. 

    I have stayed away from the Cricket because of how the mag is loaded into the gun…it just seems cumbersome IMO. I realize the Mutant has a retaining pin but it self indexes from what I understand so it doesn’t seem as cumbersome, again IMO.  

    Other bullpups I have considered:
    AA Galahad
    Kalibirgun Cricket
    Edgun–nearly every type.
    Vulcan 
    Bobcat MkII (I know…it’s a carbine) 

    Please feel free to offer other suggestions! Any caliber is on the table! 

    Note: I currently own a FX 500 and a Daystate Airwolf .22. 
       

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    Erik
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    Interesting list. What are your demands? If you want quiet you can’t beat the mutant. Shot Count goes to the Impact. Cool factor is personal but that colibri is really cool. I don’t Care for the WC

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    sharkman
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    sharkman
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    Erik, 
    Great question! The needs are as follows:

    1. Shot count
    2. Quiet
    3. A blast to shoot

    Accuracy goes without saying…
     

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    MrAirgun
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    I’ve had/got a few on your list and (if you can find a mk2) I’d get the Colibri.

    I love mine and it always stirs up interest wherever I take it.

    As soon as I saw it last year, I had to get one.  I think I got one of the last, new mk2’s in Europe, that took a lot of tracking down too!

    There were rumours of a new one, but not sure if they were just that.

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    nvelkhunter
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    Recommend Impact or Wildcat due to cocking lever location. 

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    MrAirgun
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    If you’re right handed the Colibri has the best cocking IMO.  Mid way down, Spring assisted, keep eye on the target and just pull back and release with left hand and shoot again.

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    farmerjoe99
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    I don’t know much on the Colibri,
    But my suggestion wold be the Taipan mutant.
    (and for my personal uses I would go .22 in standard.)

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    Kitplanenut
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    I have the Impact in 22 and 25, also a wildcat 22 and a 25. The rest on your list I have had no contact with. I keep coming back to the 22 wildcat. It’s my favorite gun and one that I will never sell. It just seems to fit me when shooting offhand and it’s much easier to hold still on the bench for some reason. Have not had the Impact long enough to get that warm fuzzy and while having all the great adjustments I cause myself accuracy problems messing with them. More then likely will find one setting and leave it there. The magazine of the wildcat is hands down easier to load. When hunting I can put  pellets in my shirt pocket and reach in and scoop and jiggle the mag and it comes out loaded. Fast and easy. Everything about the 25 wildcat is the same as the 22 except it just doesn’t have that small gun feel to me. 

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    Ginuwine1969
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    My Next Gun will be an Impact in .25 Cal.  My vote not coming from experience but flexibility and adjustments and cool factor.  Impact V2 🙂

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    Tominco
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    .25 Wildcat. Mine became my go-to rifle very quickly and has stayed there. My (competition) sweet spot (223-143b) gives me ~40 shots @900.6 with an SD of 2.15 last time I checked. Easy to shoot, easy to carry, easy to load, you can load pellets into the mag without taking it out, decent weight, mags are $40. It does have a little bit of a “crack” to it when shooting. I extended my shroud and it quieted right down. I’m sure a replacement LDC from Neil Clague, or others, would also quiet it down as well. It’s by no means loud, but it could be improved upon, sound wise. 
    I don’t have experience with the .22 except hiding it. It was very light and I can only imagine it would have a lot of the same qualities. 
    Switching over from traditional rifle to bullpup can be a journey for some.  
    You’ve got a nice collection going there! :)
    Tom

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    Dcorvino
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    I handled the Galihad at shot show and it felt great. 
    Like the fact that the cocking lever is forward and you can move the handle either side of the rifle. So if your s lefty it’s perfect 
    Hope this helps 

    Dave 

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    zebra
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    I have a Cricket 25 and Mutant Shorty. I wouldn’t let the Cricket mag loading play a part in the decision. It’s slightly more difficult than the Mutant mag loading but not that different and neither will be an issue once you’ve done it 3 or 4 times. It’s a non-issue. 

    The Colibri is not available anymore because they had a lot of problems. Working ones can be found in the classifieds but it would be at the bottom of my list. 

    They are all awesome bullpups with no bad choices (except the Colibri). In 22 cal, I would go with either the Mutant or Wildcat. In 25 I’d go with the Cricket or Impact. 

    If you go with the Impact, be prepared to wait a while. Not sure how long the waiting list is currently but last time I checked it was 6 months. 

    I would forget about the Mutant barrel problem thing unless you plan to buy a shorty in the classifieds. There was one batch that didn’t have CZ barrels a while ago. All the ones being sold now have CZ barrels. There was never an issue with the standard. I think the Mutant is the best 22 cal on your list. 

    btw, they all have history of problems but you don’t want to worry about history, only current issues…

     

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    cally88
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    Redacted.  

    too mutant biased.

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    NMshooter
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    I have been mulling over a bull pup in .25 for about a year. I was all excited about the Pulsar and the Gallahad but the .22 are powered properly but the .25 are underpowered. I am a lefty so some rifles didn’t work for me like the Cricket, however, I have the Carbine version and it is a nice rifle. I had the chance to shoulder the Wildcat but didn’t like how it felt. The Bobcat, although heavier and longer felt much better. The weight did not appear to be a huge factor. The mutant just does not appeal to me.

    I eventually selected the Edgun Matador. Check out EdgunWest’s videos. Ed is a lefty and he seems to be able to shoot just fine. There are some new modifications to rifle. I personally like the KISS rule, the less complicated the potential less problems. One real thing for me that is not really looked at is the barrel type. After having two Hammer-forged barrels, you have to clean these barrels after about 100-200 rounds. Not a big issue but, I run about 1/2 dozen patches through more than once for two rifles and it can take some time. The Edguns have a Lothar Walther barrel, which is cleaned less and a proven barrel. The bolt is easy to remove so cleaning is even easier. There is a new moderator that is supposed to improve the “harmony” of the barrel therefore improving the accuracy. Check the Short video, he shoots several eggs at 250 yards. There has been an improvement for the indexing of the magazine as well as a reduction in the cost of the mags ($30). He has a video where he can take the rifle down in about 5 min. so I am hoping to do my own repairs. As more and more rifles are getting more complicated, I chose a rifle with a basic format, an excellent barrel, that can be maintainanced by me. The rifle comes in this month. We shall see if I made the correct choice
    Doc

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    zebra
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    “NMshooter”I have been mulling over a bull pup in .25 for about a year. I was all excited about the Pulsar and the Gallahad but the .22 are powered properly but the .25 are underpowered. I am a lefty so some rifles didn’t work for me like the Cricket, however, I have the Carbine version and it is a nice rifle. I had the chance to shoulder the Wildcat but didn’t like how it felt. The Bobcat, although heavier and longer felt much better. The weight did not appear to be a huge factor. The mutant just does not appeal to me.

    I eventually selected the Edgun Matador. Check out EdgunWest’s videos. Ed is a lefty and he seems to be able to shoot just fine. There are some new modifications to rifle. I personally like the KISS rule, the less complicated the potential less problems. One real thing for me that is not really looked at is the barrel type. After having two Hammer-forged barrels, you have to clean these barrels after about 100-200 rounds. Not a big issue but, I run about 1/2 dozen patches through more than once for two rifles and it can take some time. The Edguns have a Lothar Walther barrel, which is cleaned less and a proven barrel. The bolt is easy to remove so cleaning is even easier. There is a new moderator that is supposed to improve the “harmony” of the barrel therefore improving the accuracy. Check the Short video, he shoots several eggs at 250 yards. There has been an improvement for the indexing of the magazine as well as a reduction in the cost of the mags ($30). He has a video where he can take the rifle down in about 5 min. so I am hoping to do my own repairs. As more and more rifles are getting more complicated, I chose a rifle with a basic format, an excellent barrel, that can be maintainanced by me. The rifle comes in this month. We shall see if I made the correct choice
    Doc


    The Mutant doesn’t really appeal to anyone until they try it. It’s certainly not pretty with the stock it comes with. I only bought mine because my Cricket was being repaired and it had such consistently good reviews from other owners. I wasn’t expecting to really like it (or even keep it) but I changed my mind once I  used it. It’s just better than the others on the list if you want a 22. 

    I was also intrigued by Ernest’s praise of the Mutant. Most people give opinions based on the guns they own (or have used) but he gets to not only try all of them, he takes them apart, fixes them and makes them better. He has a better view than most of the internals and has no reason to favor one brand over another. 

    btw, The cocking lever can be moved to the left on the Mutant by the user. It’s fairly easy. 

    I intend to own all of the bullpups on the list (except the Colibri) at some point. They all have strengths and weaknesses and most people would want to try more than one. Some of it comes down to how and where you’ll use it. I.e. If you require discretion and whether you’ll be carrying it or not.

    My Cricket 25 is still my favorite but yesterday, I put my Mutant Shorty in a backpack and went for a walk in the forest. Turned out to be a great day for squirrel hunting. It was awesome. I wouldn’t have been able to do that with my other guns. The Shorty is the only one that fits in an ordinary backpack. It has that feeling that a lot of people want from a bullpup – light, short, easy to carry, accurate like a rifle but discrete like a pistol. A Cricket 25 is more like a carbine in length and the Wildcat 25 has another 2″ on top of that plus extra for baffle kits (which it needs). They aren’t backpack guns. They are awesome hunting rifles though. 

    You’re probably not going to find a definitive answer by asking for others opinions (I know as I’ve tried too). It just gets more confusing as each person declares a different one as “the best” while offering equally compelling reasons. 

    Just pick the one you like best and have fun. I’m fairly sure you aready know which one it is. You can always sell it and try another if you change your mind. There isn’t a bad choice here. 

     

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    NMshooter
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    It’s kinda like the horse races. You check all the stats of the horse and jockey and then pick the one with the best name! LOL. Good news……. there are alot of great rifles to choose from.
    Doc

    PS best horse’s name is Hoof Hearted! 

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    Scott_MCT
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    I have a WildCat and Cricket, both in .22.  

    My Cricket BP has the heavy synthetic stock so for its size it is pretty heavy.  My WildCat on the flip side is very light, easier to carry and ergonomically more pleasing to shoot.  Noise wise the WildCat was somewhat disappointing because the standard factory shrowd doesn’t tame the bark as well as the Cricket.  I added the FX stackable pack and now it’s very quiet but adds some length.  When the stackable pack showed up I thought is was made out of plastic because it was so light but upon examination it is high grade machined aluminum, so if you get this add on, it adds virtually no weight, just length.  Accuracy wise the nod goes to the Cricket, but not by much.  I think the CZ barrel affords more accuracy than the Smooth Twist, although for what Smooth Twist is, it is very accurate.   I have no regrets purchasing either one, and plan on keeping both.

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    TonyT
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    I have two Crickets, a 22 & 25. They are both very accurate and one quickly accommodates to the magazine insertion and rapid use of the lever.

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    KyPop
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    New to forum but I saw this topic and realized that I had just posted the same question on another forum not long ago. I was leaning heavily toward a .25 FX Wildcat after considering almost every known bullpup. I wanted a regulated rifle even though I had never owned one I thought it would be great for me since I hand pump. I figured I could pump anywhere into the regulated pressure and get consistent shots until I come off the reg. After agonizing for weeks I finally ended up with a Taipan Mutant standard. It’s the most expensive pcp that I have purchased so far. I’m very impressed with it. From 250 bar I get 50-60 shots at ~900 fps using JSB 18.13 and the accuracy is crazy good. I just sold my Marauder pistol and may sell my .25 Marauder rifle because I don’t shoot them anymore. I’m sure you can’t go too wrong with any of the rifles you are considering but I thought I would at least give another thumbs up to the Mutant from my personal experience. Good luck!

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