Accuracy... What does it mean to you? How do we achieve it?

Prompted by another thread, I thought I'd start this discussion. 
There's no right or wrong answer here, and It's not about brands or particular rifles or even parts of rifles. 
Accuracy can mean different things to different people. Here, we all talk about airguns and what makes them "accurate". Well, what is "accurate"

ACCURACY Let's look at some official definitions...
The quality or state of being correct or precise.
The degree to which the result of a measurement, calculation, or specification conforms to the correct value or a standard.
The condition or quality of being true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or defect; precision or exactness; correctness.
The ability to work or perform without making mistakes.
The ability of a measurement to match the actual value of the quantity being measured.
Yup... all that sounds great! "Aaahh, freedom from error or defect" doesn't that sound nice? I would like to request "freedom from error or defect" at my next competition please. lol! 

So, as it relates to airguns, what is accurate? 
To me, overall, it would mean hitting your intended target, exactly where you wanted to, every time you wanted to. 
How about grouping 5 shots? Well, that's been the unofficial measured standard for air gunners for quite some time. A new trend that is growing is grouping 30 shots. Would that do it for you? And at what range? For some it's close and others it's far. 
What's her definition of accuracy? 

and his...

and his...

For some it might mean being able to hit a soda can at 5-10 yards, sometimes
How about hitting 16 targets at different ranges as quickly as possible? ;)
Maybe it's not so much about the pellet hitting the target as it is about the rifle being consistent. Somedays, that's all I want!



So, onto part 2 of this...
How do we achieve accuracy as air gunners?
Buy the best rifle? Well, that would be a heated debate to say the least! But what does that really get you? A rifle that does its job in the hands of a shooter that isn't doing their job makes for poor accuracy. Right? The same could be said for all kinds of accessories. Fancy scopes, bipods, lasers, levels, grips, cheek rests, lights, etc in the hands of a shooter that isn't doing their part won't add up to much when the scores are being tallied. 
Now reverse the scenario. Give a top notch shooter a sub par, barely functioning rifle. What's going to happen? Similar results, I would imagine, and the shooter is probably going to get frustrated pretty quick which will only make matters worse. 
Practice? Well, of course that's going to help tremendously! "Practice makes perfect" but practice alone isn't going to do it. 
Consistency? Yup, that's got to be in there for sure. In regards to both the shooter and the rifle. 
Equipment? I think it plays a part too. 

Overall, I think a focused well practiced shooter with a high end (possibly tuned) rifle, coupled with good equipment is an excellent attempt at accuracy. But, it's even more than that, IMO, to achieve accuracy. I believe that there has to be a relationship between the shooter and his rifle. Lets use Ted for an example. He started out using an almost unknown russian bullpup style rifle to make incredible shots at ridiculous ranges (for a "pellet gun"). Accurate? Yes. Why? The shooter was doing his job, with a rifle that he had an intimate understanding of and was very comfortable with, that was doing its job. Think about that last statement in terms of hours! So, shall we add Passion to the list? But, he wasn't at his ultimate in terms of accuracy. Ted has stated in one of his vids that the rifle he's going to use is the one that he's the most accurate with (not an exact quote). Well, that makes a heck of a lot sense! Fast Forward... He's not using that same rifle anymore. Why? Another rifle came along and the shooter proved to himself that he was more accurate with it. Was it the rifle? Maybe that had something to do with it. Was it the shooter? No doubt the shooter became more skilled while using and learning the previous rifle. Could it be that the relationship between the shooter and his rifle was a better match? Fast forward again. The shooter has grown even more. The rifle he uses the most is the most accurate for him. But, it's not the same one as before. It's a new one. Has the equipment improved that much, or the shooter, or both? I think all of the above. 

My own story is not much different (minus the incredible shots, camera equip, etc.) With each rifle I acquired, I learned what worked for me. It didn't always work out the the newest rifle was the most accurate for me. I had that same bullpup. I learned that was more accurate with a traditional style rifle that was ~1/2 the cost. That doesn't mean that the rifle wasn't doing its job. It meant that I, as a shooter, needed to improve my skills on a rifle that I had a better relationship with. I've been through many many high end rifles since then. Each one more advanced than the last. But, I still have that old rifle because it is consistent for me. I know what my limitations are with it. Today, I have bullpup style rifles that I can outshoot that old rifle with. Over the course of all that time, I became a better shooter and found a rifle that I could really get along with. It's the most accurate rifle I have and it's the one I reach for when the shot counts. It's the... _______. Nope, I'm not going to put it out there! Why? Well, just because it's the most accurate for me doesn't mean that it's going to be that way for you. I've spent years and more money than I care to add up getting to where I am today. If I could do it all over again, I'd do it the same way. It would have sucked to have my most accurate rifle first! The journey that followed would have been filled with disappointment. 

So, what are your thoughts? 
How does one achieve maximum accuracy? 
What are the key ingredients?

Happy (accurate) shooting! :)
Tom

(Related topic regarding bullpups)


 
We need to see some major breakthroughs in projectiles to achieve maximum consistent accuracy. It is all fun and games till that flyer blows you out of the water. Could be the pellet just bumping the breach o ring to much or maybe the probe pushes it off center an extra thousandth, maybe the hammer or valve drags a little maybe the reg creeps maybe the barrel pulls just a little lead off, and bang that perfect group with that flyer hanging out in space or that pigeon escapes with one less feather or the squirrel dodges out with the nut. LOL What is accuracy? When will we get it? 
 
Great thread. Accuracy for me would be 1/2 MOA at 50 yards and MOA at 100. Haven't achieved it yet, but that's the goal. Agreed AZ that doing that once or twice doesn't mean that's what your gun or you can shoot. Sill, feels good to get a nice group every now and then! I'm just starting to learn to shoot. Just been at it about 20 months. Like Tom said, I like the journey and learning. I like the idea of the 30 or 40 shot group. Will have to try that. Agreed that the results of such group will be a much better determination of the accuracy of the gun and shooter. Onwards towards greater accuracy!
 
I'm with the camouflaged guy in the second pic. With my Wildcat I can shoot a squirrel in the head at 50 or so yards most of the time. I can hit him somewhere and kill him almost all the time and often thats what needs doing. We have a real squirrel problem here on the compound.

When it comes to deer harvesting I want to see 1moa from a rifle and I am content. I never shoot beyond 200 yards and that with a dead on rest. Most shots are around 100 yds.

I've gotten bit by the accuracy bug with powder rifles and I hand load. Trying to get under 1 moa can be maddening. It's always about harvesting meat or pest eradication with me and I just don't have time to play the extreme accuracy game.
 
"chasdicapua"Great thread. Accuracy for me would be 1/2 MOA at 50 yards and MOA at 100. Haven't achieved it yet, but that's the goal. Agreed AZ that doing that once or twice doesn't mean that's what your gun or you can shoot. Sill, feels good to get a nice group every now and then! I'm just starting to learn to shoot. Just been at it about 20 months. Like Tom said, I like the journey and learning. I like the idea of the 30 or 40 shot group. Will have to try that. Agreed that the results of such group will be a much better determination of the accuracy of the gun and shooter. Onwards towards greater accuracy!
You'll get there man! Keep on practicing. Theres probably some good advise to be had in the target shooting section as well. 
Tom
 
Accuracy for me is being able to hit your mark at any given time, in whatever conditions, at whatever distance. Knowing the windage, elevation, angle, speed of the projectile, hold, breathing, heartbeat, temperature, humidity, etc. etc. etc. Part of accuracy is knowing the limits of yourself and your equipment and knowing when NOT to take the shot. Everyone loves seeing video of someone shooting a pigeon at 146 yards or whatever. Does the shooter know, factually, that they are going to make that shot with a high degree of certainty? If not then they maybe they shouldn't be taking the shot. 

In perfect conditions, from a bench, my FX Royale will put several shots on a dime if I do my part at 50 yards. If the hold changes, or there's a breeze or anything is off the consistency falls off. Not to mention that as you move out to 100 yards and beyond, even if everything stays perfect the groups still start to open up just due to the nature of the physics. I think taking shots on game that small, at those distances, outside in the elements, with who knows what kind of hold you'd be using to suit your current environment, not being able to feel your heartbeat, etc. etc., is questionable. Even having a gun as consistent as the Royale is, I still realize I'm not a very "accurate" shooter. That is I don't have confidence I can hit something small, at varying distance, in varying conditions, at any given time. I'm working on that however :) Tom, to your point, I think that has a lot to do with the shooter having a great relationship with the gun they're using.

If I took enough of those long distance shots on birds or whatever, I'm going to get a good one on camera eventually, but how many might suffer due to misplacement or might I miss altogether? I would be very impressed to see someone with such skill so as to make up for the limitations of physics on consistency and the limits of the human body and errors in calculations and the condition of the elements and human judgement breaking down at such distance, IMHO. Anyway, that's my definition, being able to hit your mark 100% of the time and knowing the shots you shouldn't be taking because they aren't ones that you could hit 100% of the time.

That's my .02! :) Thanks for starting the thread Tom!

Regards,
Cliff
 
Tom,
As I stated on a previous thread regarding these two terms, the terms Accuracy and Precision have very different meaning. These two words were drilled into me by my Chemistry professors. The word Accuracy simply means the ability to reproduce the results. Precision refers to the most accurate measurement. What we really want is to consistently (accuracy) hit the center of the Bullseye (precision). Interesting, the less precise we are (larger the target) the easier it is to hit consistently so our accuracy will go up. The smaller the target (being more precise) the harder it is to hit the target, therefore accuracy would most likely go down. You actually need both terms to describe your lazer rifle. As Azuro has concisely stated, your expectations (group size or size of the target which describes precision)) and your ability to repeatedly hit that target will determine how accurate you and your rifle can shoot. 
Hope this helps

Accuracy- ability to hit your target
Precision- size of target or placement of shot
 
As a Field Target shooter there are two areas of interest regarding accuracy. First is hitting the target at various ranges. Second is doing it over a three hour course involving 72 shots.

The first part is hitting the target period. To achieve this I first purchased the best quality rifle I could find. I won't mention brands. 
It was way over my budget. I saved and sold things and bought it. Next I did the same with a scope. 
I feel a good starting base is better. But then tuning and modifying it to my needs was critical.


Second is being able to achieve repeatable performance. 
This can only come from practice. Both shooting to becoming used to the equipment. And developing mussle memory.
I practice just holding my rifle on target. Just getting into position and holding the cross hairs on target with high magnification. That helps build endurance. Staying in good phisical condition with exercise. And mental condition by living a life without stress. Meditation and stretching is also good. Eat right to lower blood pressure and learn to relax. 

Also little things. Proper clothing and equipment at the range made a difference.