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What does SA offer that a manually actuated gun doesn't... other than a faster rate of fire? Maybe it's easier to hold a cheek weld between shots, but big deal.

I'm not being snarky about it either, but really do wonder what the added costs and complexity would do to make my life better.

The only personal experience I have with SA airguns is with a pistol and it is more fun to shoot for sure....but also requires more frequent refills/ reloads in comparison to the guns that are not. The admission cost is high enough too for the SA guns that interest me that it'd be tempting to buy two or more of something else with that money. Just saying. But also not saying never...
 
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Semi's are more fun to me if shooting fast on steel is desired.

My Steyr ProX is nearly as precise as my FT gun and equal to some mid level pcp's I've had over the years. It's harder to shoot well much like a AR-15 is to a nice bolt gun. I can tell when I've messed up the shot as soon as I see the upset in the sight picture through the scope which is just like my AR is.

With my ProX I can hit a 1.5" spinner 98% of the time at 50y when wind is down which isn't bad.

If one has a compressor, has decent quality pellets they got on sale, and shoots on a tad larger steel, the fun factor becomes exaggerated to see how fast one can go.

I don't have semi's for ultimate precision but rather have guns built precisely for that purpose, pun intended.
 
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steve123 said:
Semi's are more fun to me if shooting fast on steel is desired.

My Steyr ProX is nearly as precise as my FT gun and equal to some mid level pcp's I've had over the years. It's harder to shoot well much like a AR-15 is to a nice bolt gun. I can tell when I've messed up the shot as soon as I see the upset in the sight picture through the scope which is just like my AR is.

With my ProX I can hit a 1.5" spinner 98% of the time at 50y when wind is down which isn't bad.

If one has a compressor, has decent quality pellets they got on sale, and shoots on a tad larger steel, the fun factor becomes exaggerated to see how fast one can go.

I don't have semi's for ultimate precision but rather have guns built precisely for that purpose, pun intended.
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Im doing good with my cheap springer. It's fun. So far.... I really like the SF and SLS. I get finished with the wife's BDay and the 💰 will begin. I haven't even tried a bolt action pcp. Im sure I could get proficient enough to make multiple shots before they all run away. Semi's seem convenient.
 
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Im doing good with my cheap springer. It's fun. So far.... I really like the SF and SLS. I get finished with the wife's BDay and the 💰 will begin. I haven't even tried a bolt action pcp. Im sure I could get proficient enough to make multiple shots before they all run away. Semi's seem convenient.
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If you do try a bolt action PCP try the Barra 250Z just don't take trigger apart.
 
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A while ago i came across a Viper drove over and picked it up , guy just didn't like shooting it . I drove back home shot 3 or 4 mag's and sold it for the exact same reason , blew thru many pellets and had to refill it after two mags . To be honest i pretty much knew i wasn't going to keep it . later i got a PP700 SA single shot loading , have had it over a year now , my kind of plinking gun .
 
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Im doing good with my cheap springer. It's fun. So far.... I really like the SF and SLS. I get finished with the wife's BDay and the 💰 will begin. I haven't even tried a bolt action pcp. Im sure I could get proficient enough to make multiple shots before they all run away. Semi's seem convenient.
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older Daystate Huntsman Bolt not side lever . YOU will never regret buying this rifle if you can find one .
 
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I have two semi automatic air rifles and one semi automatic pistol. A Semi Auto Maraude, a Sidewinder compact and a Hatsan Velox. All three are in .22. I have several thousand pellets down each and have had no issues with either rifles or pistol. The only issue was with a couple of SAM magazines that had too light spring tension. This caused the magazine not to advance the next pellet fast enough to mate with the cycling of the rifle. I tightened the spring tension on both and have had no issue since. As stated above, they all eat pellets. You can go through a tin in no time flat. Positive side is that you have an immediate follow up shot if needed on any varmint you are trying to liquidate. It is also much quicker to get your scope, red dot, or other sighting mechanisms back on target quickly. This is a real plus if the target is moving quickly, jumping from limb to limb.
 
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My PCP is for backyard pesting, so semi-auto is preferable to any other configuration. I don't think I've ever needed more than one follow-up shot, but it's a handy thing to have available when in a genocidal rage against all backyard rodents.

I've never had an issue with jamming or misfires, other than simple user-error, mostly when first getting to know my rifle.
 
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It's harder to shoot well much like a AR-15 is to a nice bolt gun.
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Those California legal 10 round mags make the AR bench way better. LOL

Someday you have to shoot my two 6.5CM 10's (18" & 24"), i've never seen a gas gun do what these two can do. And its the same load with a slight seating depth difference due to chamber depth. Unreal.
 
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wimpanzee said:
the huben k1 is still the king of semi autos until the slash proves itself....but at the price point the k1 still wins.
i've had a k1 for 7 years now, and the only jams i had were user error...
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Ok some smack talk here
ill put my .22 Steyr ProX 10 up against the Huben K1 all day everyday
semiauto excellence!
 
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Semi's are more fun to me if shooting fast on steel is desired.

My Steyr ProX is nearly as precise as my FT gun and equal to some mid level pcp's I've had over the years. It's harder to shoot well much like a AR-15 is to a nice bolt gun. I can tell when I've messed up the shot as soon as I see the upset in the sight picture through the scope which is just like my AR is.

With my ProX I can hit a 1.5" spinner 98% of the time at 50y when wind is down which isn't bad.

If one has a compressor, has decent quality pellets they got on sale, and shoots on a tad larger steel, the fun factor becomes exaggerated to see how fast one can go.

I don't have semi's for ultimate precision but rather have guns built precisely for that purpose, pun intended.
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The sky opens and the light shines down on the gleaming prox10 rotary mag😜
 
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cavedweller said:
Ok some smack talk here
ill put my .22 Steyr ProX 10 up against the Huben K1 all day everyday
semiauto excellence!
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I've not shot a Steyr, but $2800 for a .22 30 ft/lbs pellet shooter just doesn't seem compare to $1800 for a .22 (up to) 75 ft/lbs pellet and slug shooter. I just can't see those in the same class.
 
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wimpanzee said:
I've not shot a Steyr, but $2800 for a .22 30 ft/lbs pellet shooter just doesn't seem compare to $1800 for a .22 (up to) 75 ft/lbs pellet and slug shooter. I just can't see those in the same class.
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Steyr's are expensive but to be frank they are well made and work well. My LP5 pistol, my LGB1, and my ProX have been stellar. A few months ago I tried to bring the power up to 31 fpe on the ProX which made it start malfunctioning so I set it back where it was and no problems since or previous to me messing with it.

I got my 22 cal ProX used, did some swapping plus cash so it worked out, but if I had bought new I would have tried to get a 12 fpe carbine because I like mostly plinking with my semi's vs mostly hunting.

It's also the removable 10 shot mags which I prefer rather than a fixed mag which is another reason I wanted it.

But it's not a perfect gun and the biggest downside is the noise is right under the ear.
 
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Steyr's are expensive but to be frank they are well made and work well. My LP5 pistol, my LGB1, and my ProX have been stellar. A few months ago I tried to bring the power up to 31 fpe on the ProX which made it start malfunctioning so I set it back where it was and no problems since or previous to me messing with it.

I got my 22 cal ProX used, did some swapping plus cash so it worked out, but if I had bought new I would have tried to get a 12 fpe carbine because I like mostly plinking with my semi's vs mostly hunting.

It's also the removable 10 shot mags which I prefer rather than a fixed mag which is another reason I wanted it.

But it's not a perfect gun and the biggest downside is the noise is right under the ear.
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personally i think more FPE in an airgun is a highly over rated thing... to me... less is more ... which is WHY i shoot a pellet gun.
I wish i would have bought my Steyr Hunting 5 SA in .177 <20 FPE as it would have made a great HFT rig.
 
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JW. said:
Those California legal 10 round mags make the AR bench way better. LOL

Someday you have to shoot my two 6.5CM 10's (18" & 24"), i've never seen a gas gun do what these two can do. And its the same load with a slight seating depth difference due to chamber depth. Unreal.
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Ha, yeah, I wish my 10 rounders were 20 instead, oh well.

Did just get my Mordax Venom fixed and they are 15 rounders.

That'd be great fun shooting those 6.5's. My long ranger AR is in 6mmFatRat.
 
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