Skout Skout EVO precision with slugs

Steve123- from the pics you’re showing, you have like a very ultimate set up, very nice!
Thanks.

The older I get the more I need the best IQ I can afford. I had the Meopta on at first because it was what I took off the Uragan King I sold but it doesn't parallax and focus below 25Y on 25X so it needed to come off for that FM match because our closest target is 11Y.
Then put a Vector Continental 5-30 on it and the IQ isn't very good so I took it off. Though at least it focuses close. It's become my back up scope now.
Then since I want to concentrate using my EVO the most right now I put the March Genesis 4-40x52 on it. The IQ is awesome and I can dial to ELR distances without running out of elevation travel. Plus it's super heavy which is something I want on this gun because we shoot our positional stage, which used to be offhand, but now we stand using supported tripod or bipod instead. The MD has a 3/4" KZ at 26Y which is super hard to get a 22 cal projectile through even with a tripod.

And that rear pump bag really helps getting the POA perfect without torquing the gun.

I forgot, which projectile and velocity are you using in your Skout?
 
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Looking better for Long Range and 100Y BR Slug for Oregon. Decided to try the .25 @Altaros 60 grain Queens today in 800mm 1:16 liner. Shooting them at 880 fps which requires HP of 153 bar. Need to get out to 250-300Y sometime prior to Oregon but today looked good. A RA4 BC of 0.236 in 8mph left to right gusting to 11mph, drift was negligible.

Shot a 5 shot 100Y group at an EBR target close to 1/2 MOA.

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Then 10 or 11 shots 100Y to N50 target

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Orange Crush @Skout Evo with @Athlon Cronus scope and @Altaros .25 Queen 60 grain slugs.

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Looking better for Long Range and 100Y BR Slug for Oregon. Decided to try the .25 @Altaros 60 grain Queens today in 800mm 1:16 liner. Shooting them at 880 fps which requires HP of 153 bar. Need to get out to 250-300Y sometime prior to Oregon but today looked good. A RA4 BC of 0.236 in 8mph left to right gusting to 11mph, drift was negligible.

Shot a 5 shot 100Y group at an EBR target close to 1/2 MOA.

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Then 10 or 11 shots 100Y to N50 target

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Orange Crush @Skout Evo with @Athlon Cronus scope and @Altaros .25 Queen 60 grain slugs.

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Excellent shooting Mike
There was a nice breeze throughout this beautiful day
Looks like it didn’t affect your shooting
Nice Tight group
i hope I get a chance tomorrow for some practice
 
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Looking better for Long Range and 100Y BR Slug for Oregon. Decided to try the .25 @Altaros 60 grain Queens today in 800mm 1:16 liner. Shooting them at 880 fps which requires HP of 153 bar. Need to get out to 250-300Y sometime prior to Oregon but today looked good. A RA4 BC of 0.236 in 8mph left to right gusting to 11mph, drift was negligible.

Shot a 5 shot 100Y group at an EBR target close to 1/2 MOA.

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Then 10 or 11 shots 100Y to N50 target

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Orange Crush @Skout Evo with @Athlon Cronus scope and @Altaros .25 Queen 60 grain slugs.

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I'm rooting for someone else, but your groups look better than his. Lol
 
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Great groups Mike!

The juice might be worth the squeeze after all.

And NO WAY I'm selling those Altaros 60's back that you sold me last year. :p ;)

Those 60's will probably get you .1-.2 mils less wind drift than the 49.5's at the farther distances, depending on the conditions, which is hedging your bets on winning a tad better.

Man I love these slugs in my V3 and they smack steel hard too.
 
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Great groups Mike!

The juice might be worth the squeeze after all.

And NO WAY I'm selling those Altaros 60's back that you sold me last year. :p ;)

Those 60's will probably get you .1-.2 mils less wind drift than the 49.5's at the farther distances, depending on the conditions, which is hedging your bets on winning a tad better.

Man I love these slugs in my V3 and they smack steel hard too.
Damn, I was just going to ask if you still wanted them! I think a 20% increase in BC under certain conditions makes the juice worth the squeeze. I have .22 FX 700mm 1:16 that shoots the @Altaros Kings at 905 fps really well, so at 100Y BR if its not that windy I'll probably shoot them. If its windy or really switchy, I'll shoot the .25 @Altaros 60 grain Queens. And at the Long Range, I'll shoot the Queens no matter the condition.
I've been using the RA4 profile for the Altaros for all three that I shoot, the .22 King 40 grain, the .25 Smooth 49.5 grain and the .25 Queen 60 grain. It seems out past 200-250 yards the RA4 profile fits a bit better. For the .22 Kings I get 0.190 RA4, the .25 Smooth I get 0.195 RA4, and the .25 Queens I get 0.235 RA4.
 
My first match report using this EVO.

I drove the 2.5 hours down to Phoenix and entered a slug division called the FullMonty/FM at the Ultimate Field Target/UFT match at PRGC. Sight in and dope check went okay except I was hitting .2 mil low at 100Y?? At 100Y it was shooting really tight, one group was around an inch off bucket and sticks. If we shoot the FM there is a mandatory FPE check, in which, whatever projectile one uses must be under 50 fpe. For whatever reason my first shot after the EVO has sat for a while(this time about 20 minutes) always ends up higher velocity, which I declared beforehand to the RO, so it went 1st/848 fps, 2nd/811, 3rd/812. The last two shots were almost 48 fpe so I passed. Up here where I live the last time I Chrono'd it was at 829 fps average. I changed the velocity in my app which corrected the dope .2 mil at 100Y so I was GTG.
I'm not sure how to resolve the higher first shot issue?? That being said going from lane to lane there's not enough time gone by that it's not an issue because it doesn't change much.
Also I found out last week that all the air leaks out of the gun over night.:rolleyes:
Fault #1 and #2.

With the EVO I was able to hit a fair amount of the smaller targets and calling my misses most of the time. This gun is easier to shoot well and you can read earlier in my thread here the other attributes I like about this gun. I feel it'll be a real achiever for the FM once I get all the down sides sorted out.
So nice using a repeater in the FM.
So nice having such a light trigger.
So nice it's a heavy gun.
So nice I can cock it from the left side and BTW I'm right handed and I like being able to hold the gun by the grip.
Also the ergo's fit me well.
And I really really like that the yellow light on the grip shows I haven't cycled the bolt yet and the red light shows that I had! This is a great feature.
Plus it's so nice having super crisp IQ in the March Genesis.

That being said I need one more magazine, so 3 altogether, that way I can use fully loaded mags for all 72 shots.

I did well until 3/4's the way through the match, then disaster struck, causing me to miss 4 easier targets in a row. I began thinking to myself what could have happened and it dawned on me to check the barrel latching mechanism at the rear of the gun. !!Sure enough the barrel had come loose and the tension holding the barrel was 3 clicks from full tight!!! I tightened it again but at the end of the next lane, near as I could figure, POI's were .2-.3 mils low, and the same amount right. Oh joy and some words came out of my mouth that I regret!!! So I tried to compensate the best I could for the remaining of the match but still missed a bunch. This was absolutely frustrating!!!!!!!!!!
Fault #3.

I don't know what the names of the parts that hold the rear of the barrel are??but on the left side of the EVO is the round knob/locking collar, that when pushed down tightens around the barrel, and on the right side there is a pivoting latchet that can be depressed to loosen the left side. I don't know whether the latchet was depressed accidentally by putting the gun back in the case or if I inadvertently hit it with my left hand when holding the gun to change the mag to another but I suspect the latter.

Most of you know that my main gripe with AG's is the many "non solid, less solid, and absolutely silly ways" the manufacturers have come up with to hold a barrel. Well this is one more.:(
During the match I was partnered with Tom Coston of AAA and looking at his thick match barrel and knowing how it's attached, I thought to myself, yeah he's got this aspect right for sure!

I think I can resolve this latchet issue by drilling and tapping the latchet on the right side of the EVO then installing a grub screw to tension it thus making it practically impossible for this stupid debacle to happen again.
 
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Following with interest. Im thinking about buying an Epoch Compact just for fun and maybe hunting. Not necessarily for EFT. So I appreciate you taking the time to post and share your real world findings. There are a lot of features in the Skout design I like. Electronic trigger, Ambi safety (for us southpaws), Bullpup design, hammerless valve system, adjustable up and down regulators without degassing the gun. And I thought the barrel attachment with tapers and a ratcheting nut system would be very solid. Maybe it coming loose was just a fluke? The first shot with higher velocity is troublesome to me. For a hunting gun an accurate “cold bore” shot would be important. Hope you get it sorted out and dialed in! I’m having fun following along.

If I didn’t have out of town guests this weekend I would have attended the match. For the time being I’m going to watch and wait to see how things sift out with your Skout. Maybe I’ll see you at a Mormon Lake FT match this summer.
Rick
 
Thanks for sharing your experience. Following with interest. Im thinking about buying an Epoch Compact just for fun and maybe hunting. Not necessarily for EFT. So I appreciate you taking the time to post and share your real world findings. There are a lot of features in the Skout design I like. Electronic trigger, Ambi safety (for us southpaws), Bullpup design, hammerless valve system, adjustable up and down regulators without degassing the gun. And I thought the barrel attachment with tapers and a ratcheting nut system would be very solid. Maybe it coming loose was just a fluke? The first shot with higher velocity is troublesome to me. For a hunting gun an accurate “cold bore” shot would be important. Hope you get it sorted out and dialed in! I’m having fun following along.

If I didn’t have out of town guests this weekend I would have attended the match. For the time being I’m going to watch and wait to see how things sift out with your Skout. Maybe I’ll see you at a Mormon Lake FT match this summer.
Rick

You're welcome Rick and yeah looking forward to seeing you out there.

As soon as I got the EVO, seeing how the barrel holding mechanism was done, I though to myself that it would bite me at some point but not this quick, LOL. The spring tension holding the latch is hardly anything and Skout should have designed a "LOCK" into the system anyway so this wouldn't happen, that's all there is to it.

Reminds me of when I used to put my precision rifles in my drag bag and when I had to walk a long way to the next stage the windage turret had moved. Miss, miss, oh it's way right???, compensate left, then after the stage, well lookey there, the turret is .6 mil off. So I ordered a scope with locking turrets right away.
 
Alrighty then, that problem is fixed!

I just happened to have two 3mm bolts left over from a project from last week, also the right drill size and tap.

The latch is made of steel so you need to use a hard drill bit. On the back of the latch is 6 holes partially drilled into it so I used the bottom two as my guides.
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That's a weird one to happen???
How tight do you keep the locking collar?
I have depressed the locking tab a bunch of times while tuning, but i can't recall that it caused the ratchet to loosen.
I have had the indexing move slightly if i am attaching/detaching a moderator for cleaning the barrel,,,,but that was due to the collar being loose.
Glad you found a solution
Mike
 
That's a weird one to happen???
How tight do you keep the locking collar?
I have depressed the locking tab a bunch of times while tuning, but i can't recall that it caused the ratchet to loosen.
I have had the indexing move slightly if i am attaching/detaching a moderator for cleaning the barrel,,,,but that was due to the collar being loose.
Glad you found a solution
Mike
As tight as I could push down the round tension knob with my thumb and still it only took a nudge of force on the latch to dislodge that tension causing the barrel to come loose.

Before I tightened the screws I had installed today I tapped the round tension knob down with the wooden handle of a hammer another click more than thumb tight, then tightened the screws with adequate force.

Murphy's law = If it can go wrong, it will, and at the worst possible time!!! - Now I shouldn't have to worry about at least "this" problem anymore.

To clean the barrel I use a pull through patch with a lube on it so I don't need to take the barrel out and if I do it's no big deal.
 
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Looking better for Long Range and 100Y BR Slug for Oregon. Decided to try the .25 @Altaros 60 grain Queens today in 800mm 1:16 liner. Shooting them at 880 fps which requires HP of 153 bar. Need to get out to 250-300Y sometime prior to Oregon but today looked good. A RA4 BC of 0.236 in 8mph left to right gusting to 11mph, drift was negligible.

Shot a 5 shot 100Y group at an EBR target close to 1/2 MOA.

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Then 10 or 11 shots 100Y to N50 target

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Orange Crush @Skout Evo with @Athlon Cronus scope and @Altaros .25 Queen 60 grain slugs.

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Your Orange Crush reminds me of this old Schwinn Orange Krate! Did you have one of these when you were a kid?

Why I mention it is because I had the Apple Krate in Red, lol.

Ha no wonder we like flashy airguns so much!

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