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Absolutely love this Hawke red dot. Reasonably priced, often on sale, and work pretty damn good, imo.
I have a couple really cheap Amazon red dots, they work so so, wherein the performance of this one, I've replaced scopes on a couple guns with them..
 
Is there any difference in Frustration with a red dot , sighting it in or holding POI , that is less money ($36 on Amazon ) or a $200 one ? I have a tube type red dot and it works on target except trying to find the dot in that window and the squirrel has long gone . OR is this a muscle memory thing ?
I have several feyachi (v90? ) red dots. They are $60 on amazon. One is on a 50 cal and it works great. I also have a Holosun, but I wouldn't get another because I don't think its worth $300 more than a budget red dot.
 
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I have several feyachi (v90? ) red dots. They are $60 on amazon. One is on a 50 cal and it works great. I also have a Holosun, but I wouldn't get another because I don't think its worth $300 more than a budget red dot.
I was thinking about trying one , thanks think i will wait a day or two get more info .
 
Muscle memory will definitely play a role, and for the good if you have a good place for cheek weld and consistent hold (so when you bring the rifle up and shouldered the center of the scope is centered with the eye). If you are shouldering the rifle and hunting for the dot, and hunting for the game or target, then you likely need to move either the cheek.piece or scope up or down.

One way to tell is to the shoulder the rifle several times with your eyes closed. Then shoulder it and open them. The scope should be centered when you open your eyes. If not, either raise it or lower it with the mounting rings, a cheek.piece, or work out a different memorized hold. I read that it takes about 63 repetitions to develop muscle memory.
 
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The thing I have noticed most is the clarity or crispness of the dot shape. The cheaper dots are very blurry or fuzzy, which is exaggerated by astigmatism. I started using medium quality green dots and they work much better for me. The only downside is the green color doesnt stand out as much in direct sunlight or bright green backgrounds.

Other than that; I find the big-window thin-housing optics to be much easier to get on target compared to the typical small tube housing dots.
 
Cheap red dots are frustrating for sure in all areas. There are some decent inexpensive ones out there as noted by others. Still, with all of them, you have to practice and get used to them. If you have mounting options, get to where you can shoulder the rifle with your eyes closed and then open up and see if you are on with your dot. If not, adjust using mounts up or down to get the right fit. If no other mounting options, or on a pistol... practice, practice practice.
 
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For cheap, Id recommend this $36 dot, but replace the mount bolts, theyll strip between 10-15 in/lbs https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CN98SGR5

My buddy got a good one, was easily matching the holosun 407c on a tripod. Send it back for another if you get a bad one but the 7x+ more for a holosun is just for peace of mind. Romeos I think have a slightly smaller dot. Theyre all going to ring steel at 100 yards.
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