Daystate Blackwolf owners discussion

I don't know if the aftermarket barrels will be sub-MOA, but I did a lot of reading and research on the brand. As always, airgun youtubers sing praises of the barrel while real world owners on this forum isn't too impressed. And that price for a barrel is pretty outrageous unless they GUARANTEE it's a shooter.
Even then it's still outrageous
 
I would love to get that done but I don't want to do it myself and nobody locally does it. Do you have any recommendations?
There is no reason you can’t do it yourself. Take barrel off a cleaning rod and bore mop take your finger fill the mop wiith jb and stroke the barrel say 20 strokes to start. Actually you should push a pellet through first to identify rough or tight spots so you can hit them a bit more when all done shoot and judge. If more is needed
 
There is no reason you can’t do it yourself. Take barrel off a cleaning rod and bore mop take your finger fill the mop wiith jb and stroke the barrel say 20 strokes to start. Actually you should push a pellet through first to identify rough or tight spots so you can hit them a bit more when all done shoot and judge. If more is needed

I agree.

Kwaping - There are some pretty good instructional YouTube barrel polishing videos, which visually show you how easy this process is to do yourself. Additionally, there is some good step by step instructions on the AGN forum which describe in detail the process. Before I tackled this myself, I did considerable research trying to learn how.

Like you, I am not a tinkerer but other than taking the barrel off the gun and putting it in my padded vice, the process is really easy and rewarding to do yourself.

Alternatively, AoA will do it for you (probably for FREE) under warranty; but this process is good to know for all your other rifles and barrels that may require an occasional polish.
 
I don't know if the aftermarket barrels will be sub-MOA, but I did a lot of reading and research on the brand. As always, airgun youtubers sing praises of the barrel while real world owners on this forum isn't too impressed. And that price for a barrel is pretty outrageous unless they GUARANTEE it's a shooter.
Do you have a BW, the sub-moa barrels are coming out in the next few weeks the 22 30 caliber will be available, I am not so sure that the barrel on the BW is the problem I can get a 1/4 1/2 inch group one day and then the next day they are all over the place if you look back on the
 
I don't know if the aftermarket barrels will be sub-MOA, but I did a lot of reading and research on the brand. As always, airgun youtubers sing praises of the barrel while real world owners on this forum isn't too impressed. And that price for a barrel is pretty outrageous unless they GUARANTEE it's a shooter.
Do you have a BW? the sub-moa barrels are coming out in the next few weeks the 22 30 caliber will be available first, I am not so sure that the barrel on the BW is the problem, I can get a 1/4 1/2 inch group one day and then the next day they are all over the place if you look back on here, you will see the same thing with other shooters.
I have been doing a lot of testing with different pellets and chronograph each group, I have found that one day I shoot jsb 25.39 at 900 fps and go back to the range with the same settings and they would shot 870 fps on the same settings.
 
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Do you have a BW? the sub-moa barrels are coming out in the next few weeks the 22 30 caliber will be available first, I am not so sure that the barrel on the BW is the problem, I can get a 1/4 1/2 inch group one day and then the next day they are all over the place if you look back on here, you will see the same thing with other shooters.
I have been doing a lot of testing with different pellets and chronograph each group, I have found that one day I shoot jsb 25.39 at 900 fps and go back to the range with the same settings and they would shot 870 fps on the same settings.
If you only shoot right after setting the reg usually the reg will settle a bit. What i do is set the reg and crono then go back a couple hrs later and check if velocity is the same then adjust reg if necessary and usually that will be consistent after that
 
Okay, I'll do some research, thanks for the tips and encouragement.
Don’t sweat it too much just think of it as using semi chrome polish to polish a piece of chrome. Jb is very fine and just takes off very minor burrs and shines up the barrel. Its really not going to hurt anything unless you sit there all day
 
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This is a good one to read, but there is a lot of info on barrel polishing.

 
For you guys having trouble at longer yardages you should polish your barrels a bit with jb bore paste. I’ve been having good luck with ghost barrels by polishing them. Took my 25 cal from 1 1/2” or so groups to groups like this with just a polishView attachment 596413
I’m about to do this to my .25 Ghost barrel, it shoots tight groups but fouls in 60 shots. The BW is using the same barrel, I’ll let you all know if it works.
 
I’m about to do this to my .25 Ghost barrel, it shoots tight groups but fouls in 60 shots. The BW is using the same barrel, I’ll let you all know if it works.
Push a pellet through first to see how tight the choke is that was my major problem the choke was so rough and tight it would get lots of lead build up. If its real tight polish a bit more
 
Well, I've taken the barrel off, replaced the breech o-ring and reassembled with care after cleaning. Put the chrony on it and recorded several magazines worth of shots with 22, 25 and 28g pellets. Rock solid regulator consistency per string w/STD averaging 3.5 FPS. Still flinging pellets around the bulls eye. Next I swapped scopes. The NX8 is nice. Still can't get a group less than an 1.5" not matter what pellet I use. Even the 28g danced all over the place while at 880FPS.

I noticed some slight movement between the stock and the receiver while handling it nearly all day yesterday. It's only one bottom screw holding the stock in place along with the safety switch hardware above the trigger. The stock can wiggle laterally around that one bottom screw no matter how snug a person tightens it. Removed the stock to see how it interacts with the receiver. Not much there and it is much lighter than I was expecting. Beech wood I believe I read somewhere? Anyway, was sitting at my desk early this morning trying to figure out what to try next while awaiting the spring kit's arrival next week and happened to look over at it in just the right light. The stock is indeed cracked in front of the bottle gauge. Guess I'll call AoA about stocks or repair or? Pretty disappointing experience with this rifle so far however, I'm not giving up yet!

In comparison.......I sighted in a "new to me" Wolverine yesterday using the same pellets I've been using in the BW. Several dime groups at 40yds with that HEAVY Wolverine trigger, lol. One lucky 5 shot group was one hole.

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A common denominator among unhappy DS owners is their lack on interest in american client's wants. Very expensive for what they are; unreliable performance at times, lack of peformance, poor availability of parts and even lack of knowledge of advertised products by their US representatives. It is like talking to a car dealer that is not familiarized with the brand and model !

IMHO FX is winning by default!
You are overall probably correct. Fx has the parts and support and man will they shoot both pellets and slugs. My negative experience with FX is they are super unreliable. I get that it’s just orings but it’s highly annoying. While the BW for the money seems to be coming out of the gate as a bit of a turd, I love my bullpup wolfs. They have been accurate (only a pellet shooter ) and reliable. No idea on support as I haven’t had to go there. I just prefer them over the fx guns.
 
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I hope the replacement stock fixes your issue! I have a feeling it will. My stock doesn't wiggle, it's very solidly attached.
I'll try for Walnut! I am thankful the "air" part of the rifle seems to be operating perfectly. I was really hoping it was the scope causing the accuracy issues but......doesn't appear that way.

How are your groups coming along?
 
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I'll try for Walnut! I am thankful the "air" part of the rifle seems to be operating perfectly. I was really hoping it was the scope causing the accuracy issues but......doesn't appear that way.

How are your groups coming along?
I haven't made any changes yet, still working on a plan for polishing. I'm going to clean my barrel and do some testing and tuning with some JSBs today.
 
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