30-Yard Challenge

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TheAirgunnero said:
Leaderboard Submission:

Date: June 18, 2025
Rifle: Daystate Red Wolf Mutant (BR25 HV Local Pellet Category)
Pellets: 🇵🇭 Philippine made WS 13.2gr average (13.12-13.25gr) unsorted .177 by Warren Sumaylo
Power: 18.5 ft-lbs
Scope: Vector Optics Sentinel X 10-40X50 @30X magnification
Rests: Protektor Model Deluxe BB as front rest, Protektor rabbit ear rear bag and some cutting pads for elevation
Target distance: 30 yards from the muzzle

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Very nice Ricky! Never heard of a RW Mutant. Any pics?
 
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tommyb said:
Very nice Ricky! Never heard of a RW Mutant. Any pics?
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I call my RW a “Mutant” because it originally came in .22 cal. Accuracy sucked since day 1 using the .22 LW barrel so I converted it to .177 by machining a LW polygonal blank

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TheAirgunnero said:
Leaderboard Submission:

Date: June 18, 2025
Rifle: Daystate Red Wolf Mutant (BR25 HV Local Pellet Category)
Pellets: 🇵🇭 Philippine made WS 13.2gr average (13.12-13.25gr) unsorted .177 by Warren Sumaylo
Power: 18.5 ft-lbs
Scope: Vector Optics Sentinel X 10-40X50 @30X magnification
Rests: Protektor Model Deluxe BB as front rest, Protektor rabbit ear rear bag and some cutting pads for elevation
Target distance: 30 yards from the muzzle

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No video?
 
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thomasair said:
Tommy....I think he posts them....but just as a person with a different screen name. 😀
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Did not know, thanks Mike.

A vast majority of us on this challenge don’t make videos. I love seeing Ricky’s but I could not be bothered. I’m spending enough right now without adding more. 😀

Besides, next big purchase for me is a compressor later in the year.
 
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gos’n said:
Can I use my .25?
Thinking the larger pellet would be a little unfair with this scoring system.
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Yes, you can use your .25. We have some .25 caliber on the leaderboards.

Please use a .22 scoring plug with the .25 - it works fine as the .25 holes are still slightly smaller than the .22 plug.

-Ed
 
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EPG said:
Yes, you can use your .25. We have some .25 caliber on the leaderboards.

Please use a .22 scoring plug with the .25 - it works fine as the .25 holes are still slightly smaller than the .22 plug.

-Ed
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Thanks for
EPG said:
Yes, you can use your .25. We have some .25 caliber on the leaderboards.

Please use a .22 scoring plug with the .25 - it works fine as the .25 holes are still slightly smaller than the .22 plug.

-Ed
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Thanks for the clarification. I look forward to participating.
 
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Hi Guys,
Had a calm evening yesterday after a 4 day mini-Nor'Easter (10-20kt winds instead of 30-40kt). So broke out the FT rig to see if I could replace my "Mulligan" score on the leaderboard.

30yd Challenge - 198 - 15x So I didn't quite beat the 198 -17x, but at least it won't have to marked as a "Mulligan Card" :giggle: .

This was shot using a CARM SSL straight out of the FX 13.4gr tin. This lot of tins is primarily 4.52mm heads and this barrel seems to like them better than some of my other lot which tend to be 4.54mm heads. I am not sorting the pellets. I just do a quick test with a 4.53 Pellet Gager (48 pellets at once) when I first open the tin to see what I have. Generally, if they fall through this gage, I find that when measured more accurately they tend to be 90% 4.52mm, 6% 4.53, and 4% 4.51.

Cheers,
Greg



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NAProf said:
Hi Guys,
Had a calm evening yesterday after a 4 day mini-Nor'Easter (10-20kt winds instead of 30-40kt). So broke out the FT rig to see if I could replace my "Mulligan" score on the leaderboard.

30yd Challenge - 198 - 15x So I didn't quite beat the 198 -17x, but at least it won't have to marked as a "Mulligan Card" :giggle: .

This was shot using a CARM SSL straight out of the FX 13.4gr tin. This lot of tins is primarily 4.52mm heads and this barrel seems to like them better than some of my other lot which tend to be 4.54mm heads. I am not sorting the pellets. I just do a quick test with a 4.53 Pellet Gager (48 pellets at once) when I first open the tin to see what I have. Generally, if they fall through this gage, I find that when measured more accurately they tend to be 90% 4.52mm, 6% 4.53, and 4% 4.51.

Cheers,
Greg



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Awesome card Greg - we will use it to replace your "Mulligan" card - although we know that your mulligan card was legit - that the extra shot was not intentional.

Great shooting with that Crown...
 
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Speaking of Crowns... I swapped the 700mm barrel off of my .22 Crown and swapped the 500mm back on.

I had been shooting heavier pellets with the long 700mm barrel since last fall. The rifle shoots great with the 700mm, but it was always insanely accurate with the 500mm shooting 18.13g.

I was texting Greg and Tommy after I did the swap. Sighting it in with the 500mm, I shot 1 group at 40 yards - 5 shots measured .126" center to center - I texted it to Tommy and Greg and said it was now time for a card...

...Tommy texted back and said that I better shoot a 240, lol.

Well, first card with the .22 Crown at 500mm is a leaderboard submission for 40-Challenge (but not a 240):
197 11X
.22 Crown Mk 2 (500mm)
FX 18.13g at 900fps (FX Chrono)
Sightron SII 36X fixed power.

Here is a picture of the current state of my two Crowns. The blue one is using Greg's (NAProf) 380mm .177 barrel. The green one is the .22 500mm. I recently swapped the 480cc bottle on the green Crown to 580cc. Both Crowns bought off the AGN Classifieds. The blue one came with a synthetic stock but had the big 580cc bottle. I found the blue stock used on the AGN Classifieds. Both rifles are insanely accurate as per my leaderboard submissions. I've done some modest work on both rifles refining them (even improvements to the crummy FX triggers) - but if your looking to target shoot with pellets, its hard to beat a used Crown or Dreamline for the money.

-Ed

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EPG said:
Speaking of Crowns... I swapped the 700mm barrel off of my .22 Crown and swapped the 500mm back on.

I had been shooting heavier pellets with the long 700mm barrel since last fall. The rifle shoots great with the 700mm, but it was always insanely accurate with the 500mm shooting 18.13g.

I was texting Greg and Tommy after I did the swap. Sighting it in with the 500mm, I shot 1 group at 40 yards - 5 shots measured .126" center to center - I texted it to Tommy and Greg and said it was now time for a card...

...Tommy texted back and said that I better shoot a 240, lol.

Well, first card with the .22 Crown at 500mm is a leaderboard submission for 40-Challenge (but not a 240):
197 11X
.22 Crown Mk 2 (500mm)
FX 18.13g at 900fps (FX Chrono)
Sightron SII 36X fixed power.

Here is a picture of the current state of my two Crowns. The blue one is using Greg's (NAProf) 380mm .177 barrel. The green one is the .22 500mm. I recently swapped the 480cc bottle on the green Crown to 580cc. Both Crowns bought off the AGN Classifieds. The blue one came with a synthetic stock but had the big 580cc bottle. I found the blue stock used on the AGN Classifieds. Both rifles are insanely accurate as per my leaderboard submissions. I've done some modest work on both rifles refining them (even improvements to the crummy FX triggers) - but if your looking to target shoot with pellets, its hard to beat a used Crown or Dreamline for the money.

-Ed

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Ed,
I think the 380mm barrel on the Crown looks awesome! With the moderator it has the look of a hunting carbine, but shoots like a target rifle. A lot of folks pooh-pooh the Superlight barrel system, but I think it makes a lot of sense.

Adding mass to the barrel doesn't damp the vibrations, it only moves the natural frequency lower (maybe out of the range of the exciting frequency). Retaining the barrel at specific positions along its length with o-rings limits the y and z axis motions (but not rotational motions), effectively creating a node. Changing the vibration mode shape by introducing nodes can decrease vibration amplitude. The weak point is the system is only as robust as the shroud. So I am very careful not to whack the barrel when using my Crown for FT.

Sorry for the engineering musings.

Cheers,
Greg

P.S. - I am trying to design a Crown-type liner retaining system for the DRS.
 
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As you guys are all getting so good with the scores that you have been posting...

... thought you might like to see & try out the types of targets that the International Benchrest Guys (like Rickie the Airgunnero) shoot in competitions.

Attached is the WRABF 25 meter (27.34 yards) Benchrest Target. This file has their official target sizes but has been rejiggered to fit on our typical US Letter paper size - so you can print it easily at home and try it.

I've also done some research and attached the ring sizes of the WRABF 25 meter (25 meters is a similar distance to our 30 yard challenge) and the WRABF 50 meter targets. Dang! Those competition bench rest shooters are good.

For comparison, the 10-ring on our 30/40 Challenge target measures .13 inches - which is 3.3mm (millimeters).

Even crazier, all those UK shooters of this target are using 12 ft/lb .177 rifles to shoot this 25 meter target in the wind...

Happy Shooting,

-Ed

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EPG said:
Speaking of Crowns... I swapped the 700mm barrel off of my .22 Crown and swapped the 500mm back on.

I had been shooting heavier pellets with the long 700mm barrel since last fall. The rifle shoots great with the 700mm, but it was always insanely accurate with the 500mm shooting 18.13g.

I was texting Greg and Tommy after I did the swap. Sighting it in with the 500mm, I shot 1 group at 40 yards - 5 shots measured .126" center to center - I texted it to Tommy and Greg and said it was now time for a card...

...Tommy texted back and said that I better shoot a 240, lol.

Well, first card with the .22 Crown at 500mm is a leaderboard submission for 40-Challenge (but not a 240):
197 11X
.22 Crown Mk 2 (500mm)
FX 18.13g at 900fps (FX Chrono)
Sightron SII 36X fixed power.

Here is a picture of the current state of my two Crowns. The blue one is using Greg's (NAProf) 380mm .177 barrel. The green one is the .22 500mm. I recently swapped the 480cc bottle on the green Crown to 580cc. Both Crowns bought off the AGN Classifieds. The blue one came with a synthetic stock but had the big 580cc bottle. I found the blue stock used on the AGN Classifieds. Both rifles are insanely accurate as per my leaderboard submissions. I've done some modest work on both rifles refining them (even improvements to the crummy FX triggers) - but if your looking to target shoot with pellets, its hard to beat a used Crown or Dreamline for the money.

-Ed

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That’s superb shooting at 40y.

Every time I move my target stand back from 30-40y, I start quietly talking ( cursing really) to myself. I start thinking, “Tom, why don’t you just shoot some tight groups and be content with that.”
😉
 
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