Crosman World's Cheapest PCP

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I wonder how close the internals of the 3622 will be to the Discovery and whether the valve will be pinned.

No shipping update yet, seems like it's been taking a few days for Crosman to get stuff shipped out lately.
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They took 2 weeks to ship me some parts. They had originally charged my card for them, then refunded. Then out of the blue I get charged and then a tracking number provided. No email stating why. Good thing I keep money in that account...
 
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They took 2 weeks to ship me some parts. They had originally charged my card for them, then refunded. Then out of the blue I get charged and then a tracking number provided. No email stating why. Good thing I keep money in that account...
Last time I ordered parts it was 5 days before they shipped. Not too keen on it. Tax season? Election year demand? I don't really accept those excuses anyway. If this wasn't essentially the culmination and possibly a chance to keep the legend 140-150-22xx platform going I wouldn't be interested at all. I notice they dropped the Turkish line which actually addressed some of the things they should have already addressed with the Mrod platform. Would have to say as a business they have been on the downslide since Velocity took over. Everything is a clown show these days. Empty promises, lazy people. Talk is cheap in every industry, it seems.
 
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the price must be at or below $150 to be loewer than price of new crosman 3622. Is there such a gun? I would guess some obscure Chinese rifle might meet paramater.


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Certainly! If you’re looking for a budget-friendly PCP air rifle priced at or below $150, there are a few options that might fit your criteria. While Chinese-made air rifles often offer affordability, they can surprise you with their performance. Here are a couple of choices:
  1. Stoeger XM1 Suppressed: This new PCP airgun from Stoeger has been well-received by customers. It features an integrated moderator, a 2900 psi air cylinder, a 4×32 scope, and a highly customizable stock. The small cylinder makes it hand-pump-friendly while still delivering up to 50 shots per fill. The Stoeger XM1 Suppressed is an ideal starting point for new PCP shooters on a budget1.
  2. Umarex Notos Carbine: The Umarex Notos Carbine is a regulated microcarbine that offers consistent power and accuracy at an amazingly low price. It can even be converted to a pistol by purchasing the grips and open sights kit. With its small air cylinder, it’s also suitable for those starting with a hand pump. The Notos Carbine can produce over 20 foot-pounds of energy across three 7-shot magazines1.
While these rifles may not be widely known, they provide impressive performance without breaking the bank. Keep in mind that Chinese air rifles can surprise you with their value and functionality. Happy shooting! 🎯🔫
For more options, you can explore other models like the JTS Airacuda and the INDUSTRY BRAND AR2708
 
I get the idea of cheap, but no one should aspire to buy the cheapest item. :) You aspire to buy the best you can.
Aspire? I'm really not sure what the point of this post is but.. ok? Maybe if I add a happy face it will be better 🙂.
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the price must be at or below $150 to be loewer than price of new crosman 3622. Is there such a gun? I would guess some obscure Chinese rifle might meet paramater.


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Certainly! If you’re looking for a budget-friendly PCP air rifle priced at or below $150, there are a few options that might fit your criteria. While Chinese-made air rifles often offer affordability, they can surprise you with their performance. Here are a couple of choices:
  1. Stoeger XM1 Suppressed: This new PCP airgun from Stoeger has been well-received by customers. It features an integrated moderator, a 2900 psi air cylinder, a 4×32 scope, and a highly customizable stock. The small cylinder makes it hand-pump-friendly while still delivering up to 50 shots per fill. The Stoeger XM1 Suppressed is an ideal starting point for new PCP shooters on a budget1.
  2. Umarex Notos Carbine: The Umarex Notos Carbine is a regulated microcarbine that offers consistent power and accuracy at an amazingly low price. It can even be converted to a pistol by purchasing the grips and open sights kit. With its small air cylinder, it’s also suitable for those starting with a hand pump. The Notos Carbine can produce over 20 foot-pounds of energy across three 7-shot magazines1.
While these rifles may not be widely known, they provide impressive performance without breaking the bank. Keep in mind that Chinese air rifles can surprise you with their value and functionality. Happy shooting! 🎯🔫
For more options, you can explore other models like the JTS Airacuda and the INDUSTRY BRAND AR2708
AI will hasten the downfall of humankind. Also not sure of the point of this post. Another happy face, maybe 🙂
 
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what are the lowest prices you can find for those rifles? I believe they sell for more than $150?


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Certainly! Let’s find the lowest prices for the Stoeger XM1 Suppressed and the Umarex Notos Carbine:
  1. Stoeger XM1 Suppressed:
  2. Umarex Notos Carbine:
Both rifles fall within your budget, making them excellent choices for budget-friendly PCP airguns. Keep in mind that prices may vary based on the retailer and any ongoing promotions. Happy shooting! 🎯🔫
 
Aspire? I'm really not sure what the point of this post is but.. ok? Maybe if I add a happy face it will be better 🙂.

AI will hasten the downfall of humankind. Also not sure of the point of this post. Another happy face, maybe 🙂
...indeed...I gave up as it just keeps posting those rifles even though I keep explaining that none of them are below $150...

...it should post here...

...anyway, the point would be that it looks like the Crosman 3622 just might be the cheapest PCP rifle...
 
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It might be time to move onto a new topic.
Let's start over.

...LoL...last post from GPT-4...

...it told me the wrong muzzle energy after elaborating equations before...it took a lot of prompting to get a value instead of a formula...

...it looks like this is the closest in price to the Crosman 3622...it may have been the old cheapest...


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Well I guess everyone is different but if I shot groups like that at 25 yards I would never shoot that gun again which is why my icons will likely go in the trash or get parted out. I can't even sell them as complete guns in good conscience. Airguns should be tack drivers imo. Should be able to hit a fly every single time at 25 from a bench.
Guess I should clarify, I don’t shoot bench rest
 
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I'm sure it will be less expensive at the online stores. I stopped buying from them because they kept selling me used guns that had already been rejected by someone else and returned. I feel that when they get a return it should go back to the manufacturer, not be pawned off in succession until someone less discerning accepts it, which is clearly their modus operandi. One of the reasons Crosman gets a lot of attention from me is that they sell direct, they have the best customer service and as you said some of their stuff is still made in the USA.
The 3622 is USA made. And Crosman does appear to do a leak check and target test, at least for the Marauder they do as mine shipped with a target and air. Unlike the four CCC rifles (thankfully no longer have) which required numerous returns and frustration. The 3622 is clearly aimed to get PCP rifles into big box stores to compete with the ubiquitous break barrels. Low fill pressure and small reservoir make it hand pump friendly. Not sure that will work as the real hold up with PCPs in the lower end consumer market, you know, the people who do not hang out on enthusiast forums, is the pumping. What is needed is a packaged pump and rifle combo and the pump would be powered by chucking up with Big Yellow, that is, your dad's DeWalt cordless drill ;).

I have bought parts direct from Crosman numerous times. I have built three highly modified Marauders from parts and needed a few items each time from Crosman to complete the rifles. They were very friendly, prompt, inexpensive and the parts came to my door in good time.
 
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The 3622 is USA made. And Crosman, unlike the China Inc. does appear to do a leak check and target test, at least for the Marauder they do as mine shipped with a target and air. Unlike the four CCC rifles (thankfully no longer have) which required numerous returns and frustration. The 3622 is clearly aimed to get PCP rifles into big box stores to compete with the ubiquitous break barrels. Low fill pressure and small reservoir make it hand pump friendly. Not sure that will work as the real hold up with PCPs in the lower end consumer market, you know, the people who do not hang out on enthusiast forums, is the pumping. What is needed is a packaged pump and rifle combo and the pump would be powered by chucking up with Big Yellow, that is, your dad's DeWalt cordless drill ;).
As with the Marauder I'm sure on the box somewhere it will say "Made in the USA with globally sourced parts" which leaves a lot to the imagination. As long as it gets built here "I'll allow it" as Mills Lane says.

I think the real hold up on pcp's being available in brick and mortar box stores is that the average walk-in consumer couldn't be trusted with high pressure bombs and just one mishap from a well known big box seller (aka target for lawsuit) could spell the end for the entire market. Walmart.com does offer HPA guns online but many are sold and shipped by the manufacturers and I doubt we will ever see one in stores. They are already slowly deleting .22 caliber airguns and pellets from the brick and mortar market.

It would be tough to create a 3000psi pump with a drill sized compressor because cooling would be a big hurdle to overcome in a package that small. Not saying it's impossible but I don't see it happening anytime soon. They just got into making 40psi pumps somewhat reliable at that size and again we are talking about a market that isn't mentally equipped to understand the dangers involved with HPA.

I could be wrong though.
 
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As with the Marauder I'm sure on the box somewhere it will say "Made in the USA with globally sourced parts" which leaves a lot to the imagination. As long as it gets built here "I'll allow it" as Mills Lane says.

I think the real hold up on pcp's being available in brick and mortar box stores is that the average walk-in consumer couldn't be trusted with high pressure bombs and just one mishap from a well known big box seller (aka target for lawsuit) could spell the end for the entire market. Walmart.com does offer HPA guns online but many are sold and shipped by the manufacturers and I doubt we will ever see one in stores. They are already slowly deleting .22 caliber airguns and pellets from the brick and mortar market.

It would be tough to create a 3000psi pump with a drill sized compressor because cooling would be a big hurdle to overcome in a package that small. Not saying it's impossible but I don't see it happening anytime soon. They just got into making 40psi pumps somewhat reliable at that size and again we are talking about a market that isn't mentally equipped to understand the dangers involved with HPA.

I could be wrong though.

I cannot agree. Both of my Urbans came from B&M stores, one from an outdoors store in my home town and the other came from Academy. Academy has had PCP rifles on the shelf here and there. The only Marauder I purchased complete came from Walmart online.

The 3622 is a 2,000 psi rifle with a 24 shot reservoir capacity, most NASCAR dad's have a DeWalt 1/2 inch drill and a corded drill for working on their 4X4s and dirt trackers. Either could spin a small 2,000 psi pump.
 
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I cannot agree. Both of my Urbans came from B&M stores, one from an outdoors store in my home town and the other came from Academy. Academy has had PCP rifles on the shelf here and there. The only Marauder I purchased complete came from Walmart online.

The 3622 is a 2,000 psi rifle with a 24 shot reservoir capacity, most NASCAR dad's have a DeWalt 1/2 inch drill and a corded drill for working on their 4X4s and dirt trackers. Either could spin a small 2,000 psi pump.
You did agree without realizing it. Those are outdoor enthusiast stores where people who are familiar with high powered airguns go to buy them.

I addressed the online vs. walk-in comment clearly already. I'm not going to repeat it but you're welcome to read what I typed again.

It's not about being able to spin it, it's about being able to cool the motor. With all due respect of it's so easy... I'd love to have one so let me know when its on the market. Make mine red, please. I want it to last! (Now there's something we can surely agree to disagree on 😂)
 
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I ordered one yesterday too. Putting a three screw 2260 trigger together for it.
Yes. Love the aluminum housing on the 362, hate the plastic, heavy, "non adjustable" trigger. I don't doubt I will slowly deck it out if the platform proves to be worthy. Might even end up with another to outfit with a wood 2260 stock if they don't release a wood version quick enough. I like the shape of the 362 stock better, though.
 
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I have been told but do not know it as fact that the 3622 and the Prospect use glass fiber reinforced polyamide stocks (like the Gamo Urban), not the unreinforced plastic that the Marauder SynRod uses. Of course, I prefer the SynRod stock for one important reason to me, gravity weighs upon me and the synthetic stock is over a pound lighter.
 
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I have been told but do not know it as fact that the 3622 and the Prospect use glass fiber reinforced polyamide stocks (like the Gamo Urban), not the unreinforced plastic that the Marauder SynRod uses. Of course, I prefer the SynRod stock for one important reason to me, gravity weighs upon me and the synthetic stock is over a pound lighter.
The 362 stock is glass reinforced composite and more rigid than the plastic synrod stock. I'm going to assume (hope) the 3622 stock is made of the same material as the 362. I bought a 362 when they first came out #119 but hated the pump and converted the stock to accept a 2260 C02 tube. I call it a 362260 lol. That and the 3622 will make a nice pair. The 362 barrel is also very accurate so I have high hopes.
 
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The 362 stock is glass reinforced composite and more rigid than the plastic synrod stock. I'm going to assume (hope) the 3622 stock is made of the same material as the 362. I bought a 362 when they first came out #119 but hated the pump and converted the stock to accept a 2260 C02 tube. I call it a 362260 lol. That and the 3622 will make a nice pair. The 362 barrel is also very accurate so I have high hopes.
I hope the 3622 works out for you.
At less than $150, with a 5 year warranty, and made by an Iconic company, in the USA.....Its got a lot going for it, right out of the box!
 
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