Why no airgun kits?

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Why don't manufacturers offer airgun kits As an option? Using the FX Impact as an example only, many of us have learned a lot from the Masterclass series. Many of us spend top $$ for a high end airgun, then take it completely apart to polish the valve rod, hammer carrier, trigger parts, upgrade fasteners and o-rings and install mods. Why not just sell the gun as a kit like AR's And let the user assemble changing things to their liking? What better way to learn your gun than by assembling it yourself?
 
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Because if they offer it as a kit, it would be cheaper. If it’s cheaper, a ton of people are going to jump on the cheaper option whether they are qualified to put it together or not. The result would be places like UA, AOA and PA having to open help centers. You know, the number you call when you have an issue with a purchase and you pray you can understand the person helping you. A PCP is not a RC car or a flintlock. It’s a very nice looking bomb. The fact that they don’t sell them as kits is just them saving most people from themselves.
 
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Vetmx said:
Because if they offer it as a kit, it would be cheaper. If it’s cheaper, a ton of people are going to jump on the cheaper option whether they are qualified to put it together or not. The result would be places like UA, AOA and PA having to open help centers. You know, the number you call when you have an issue with a purchase and you pray you can understand the person helping you. A PCP is not a RC car or a flintlock. It’s a very nice looking bomb. The fact that they don’t sell them as kits is just them saving most people from themselves.
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I agree totally ] plus if they can't get it together correctly IT IS THE GUNS FAULT not the fact that they do not read or can not understand the instructions .
Equals Bad rap for the gun and the Company . Lawsuit for injury's ?
 
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cmatera said:
Why don't manufacturers offer airgun kits As an option? Using the FX Impact as an example only, many of us have learned a lot from the Masterclass series. Many of us spend top $$ for a high end airgun, then take it completely apart to polish the valve rod, hammer carrier, trigger parts, upgrade fasteners and o-rings and install mods. Why not just sell the gun as a kit like AR's And let the user assemble changing things to their liking? What better way to learn your gun than by assembling it yourself?
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Honestly , I don't see spending top $ for a gun ( of any kind ) and then tearing it down to "smooth out, replace this or that, upgrade etc". I understand certain mods to a point, but if I spend four figures for ANY gun , it's one that gets cleaned of "shipping lube" , sighted & shot! Of course , just my rant.
 
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Vetmx said:
A PCP is not a RC car or a flintlock. It’s a very nice looking bomb. The fact that they don’t sell them as kits is just them saving most people from themselves.
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Is your implication here is that RC cars and Flintlock rifles are inherently safe vs. a PCP being a ticking timebomb. I have no numbers to back this up, however, I would venture a guess that more houses have burnt to the ground from RC car LiPo batteries than injuries due to PCP rifles. No idea on flintlock rifles either but a face full of black powder going off seems marginally dangerous at the very least. Attempting to produce products that are idiot proof only tends to produce better idiots, these people can’t be saved from themselves.

I absolutely think the first part of your argument holds water. Why offer a kit at a reduced price when sales are acceptable for assembled units at a higher price?
 
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cmatera said:
Why don't manufacturers offer airgun kits As an option? Using the FX Impact as an example only, many of us have learned a lot from the Masterclass series. Many of us spend top $$ for a high end airgun, then take it completely apart to polish the valve rod, hammer carrier, trigger parts, upgrade fasteners and o-rings and install mods. Why not just sell the gun as a kit like AR's And let the user assemble changing things to their liking? What better way to learn your gun than by assembling it yourself?
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Are you kidding? Judging from all the outhouse airgun mechanics I read about here, I doubt that there are few that can assemble one of these without f----g it up completely.
 
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Is your implication here is that RC cars and Flintlock rifles are inherently safe vs. a PCP being a ticking timebomb. I have no numbers to back this up, however, I would venture a guess that more houses have burnt to the ground from RC car LiPo batteries than injuries due to PCP rifles. No idea on flintlock rifles either but a face full of black powder going off seems marginally dangerous at the very least. Attempting to produce products that are idiot proof only tends to produce better idiots, these people can’t be saved from themselves.

I absolutely think the first part of your argument holds water. Why offer a kit at a reduced price when sales are acceptable for assembled units at a higher price?
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4,000+ PSI trumps about everything we mess with when it comes to danger. But how quickly we forget when we become comfy around it.
 
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Can't you pretty much already do that with a lot of guns? I mean, you can pretty much order all of the individual parts for a Marauder. I would not be surprised to find that I can order the main block and all of the other bits to build an FX Impact. And this may be by design. To put out a kit with all the parts lowers the bar for builders from people who can be arsed to read a parts list and make an order to just about anyone with the money.
 
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Selling a COMPLETE and functioning PCP having been vetted at factory to be assembled correctly and functionally correct is one thing ....
Selling parts to service or modify the end user takes all the liability upon them self the same way as most warranties are void if user opens it up :(

** Selling parts & pieces to build from the ground up is another can of worms completely and the likely required insurance to cover said manufacturer from stupid person litigation Or mixing and matching NON OEM parts and pointing of fingers looking to sue someone if something went sideways ?
Don't think you would find any underwriters in this country that would take that on at any cost :unsure:

Just more thoughts ....
 
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4,000+ PSI trumps about everything we mess with when it comes to danger. But how quickly we forget when we become comfy around it.
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Well I didn’t make my point very clear then, I am sorry. 4,000+ PSI can kill, you are correct. My point is that levels of dead or one type of dead doesn’t trump another type of dead. House fire from a LiPo battery - dead, car crash from texting while driving - dead, trip on the curb in front of your house and smack your head - dead or veggie maybe. ALL suck equally as far as I can figure. As you stated, taking safety for granted is an issue, my point is that it extends beyond a 4,000PSI PCP.
 
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Well I didn’t make my point very clear then, I am sorry. 4,000+ PSI can kill, you are correct. My point is that levels of dead or one type of dead doesn’t trump another type of dead. House fire from a LiPo battery - dead, car crash from texting while driving - dead, trip on the curb in front of your house and smack your head - dead or veggie maybe. ALL suck equally as far as I can figure. As you stated, taking safety for granted is an issue, my point is that it extends beyond a 4,000PSI PCP.
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