Multi-Tank Compressor Fill Station

[yvkostad]

Hey guys. Im actually coming from the world of paintball but I respect what PCP rifles and what the community has done to supercharge the technology of HPAs for home use. Back in the day, alkin and Bauer were the only ones in the game and the 7k price tag was too high for me. Im in a place in life were im blessed to have a decent size of play around area at home and want to invest in a long term system that can handle what I need. Looking to fill 68cc paintball tanks. Ill probably shoot 2 to 3 tanks on a heavy use day. Maybe shoot 2 or 3 days a week. Im looking to get 3 (maybe 5) large 80cf tanks that i can daisy chain togethor so I can get consistently high pressure fills past 3k. My question is, can the daystate 110v (or gas, or 220v) handle that type of use and can I rely on it for the long term? If not, any other comparable (preferably established compressor companies with warranty) that i can look into around that price tag?

See photo for reference of daisy chain system i have in mind. Similar to a paintball field air system. Just smaller scale and not as much use.

 

[AlanMcD]

The Daystate will do fine in that role.

I expect you probably know this, but the best way to get the most fills out of that bank of cylinders would be to use them sequentially in a cascading manner - pick one tank to start with, and always open it first. When the pressure stabilizes, close it's valve and move on to the next cylinder, as needed to get to the full pressure in the paintball tank (initially you can do it on one or two tanks, but eventually it will take more cylinders to get there, and use the air from the lowest pressure tanks that can't fill the paintball tank to charge the lines and maybe put a some air into the paintball tank). Then when the paintball tank is full, close it's valve and go back to the lowest pressure SCUBA tank and open the valve to let the excess pressure in the line go into it, then close it up and then vent the lines. This will get you the most fills between refills of the cylinder bank. Then when you need to charge the bank, connect the Daystate, open up all the tanks, and let it do its thing . . .

Of course having that great a compressor on hand, you may find that a two or three tank cascade is plenty, and then you can use the other SCUBA tanks for something else.

 

[grackleblast]

Here's my cascade set-up a 60 minute and a 45 minute tank . My mobile set-up is a 60 minute , 30 minute , and a 118 cu in . Between the different tanks , I normally only air up once a month . Always plenty compressed air here , as well as hot air also

 

[rcs9250]

Here's my cascade set-up a 60 minute and a 45 minute tank . My mobile set-up is a 60 minute , 30 minute , and a 118 cu in . Between the different tanks , I normally only air up once a month . Always plenty compressed air here , as well as hot air also

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That’s cool, a bar stool inverted to hold tanks. Very clever.

 

[yvkostad]

The Daystate will do fine in that role.

I expect you probably know this, but the best way to get the most fills out of that bank of cylinders would be to use them sequentially in a cascading manner - pick one tank to start with, and always open it first. When the pressure stabilizes, close it's valve and move on to the next cylinder, as needed to get to the full pressure in the paintball tank (initially you can do it on one or two tanks, but eventually it will take more cylinders to get there, and use the air from the lowest pressure tanks that can't fill the paintball tank to charge the lines and maybe put a some air into the paintball tank). Then when the paintball tank is full, close it's valve and go back to the lowest pressure SCUBA tank and open the valve to let the excess pressure in the line go into it, then close it up and then vent the lines. This will get you the most fills between refills of the cylinder bank. Then when you need to charge the bank, connect the Daystate, open up all the tanks, and let it do its thing . . .

Of course having that great a compressor on hand, you may find that a two or three tank cascade is plenty, and then you can use the other SCUBA tanks for something else.

This is quality protocol. I believe this also can be done by a fill station? Iv seen them at fields sometime with a guage built in and a lever arm that opens the valves. And finally whip line with fill hose and femal nipple adapter outlets to fill the paintball tank. Never priced them out though.

 

[yvkostad]

That’s cool, a bar stool inverted to hold tanks. Very clever.

I saw that too! Lots of respect for using whats around.

 

[yvkostad]

Anyone have thoughts on the Tuxin version of the Daystate compressor? Are these the same compressor just different parts and manufacture? Anyone have total usage hours on either unit? Whats the benefit of paying the premium to Daystate or AoA?

Daystate compressor: https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/compressors/daystate-4500-psi-compressor-110v-super-leggero/

You can get the same compressor as generic brand for half-price: [TUXING 4500Psi High Pressure Diving Compressor 300Bar PCP Air Compressor 100L/min Air Flow for Scuba]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808037578582.html?src=google&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%213896.73%211285.92%21%21%21%21%21%40%2112000044303585097%21ppc%21%21%21&snps=y&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=752-015-9270&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=_oDc8nzq&gclsrc=aw.ds&albagn=888888&ds_e_adid=766084151206&ds_e_matchtype=search&ds_e_device=m&ds_e_network=g&ds_e_product_group_id=2435355305429&ds_e_product_id=en3256808037578582&ds_e_product_merchant_id=5551326180&ds_e_product_country=US&ds_e_product_language=en&ds_e_product_channel=online&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_url_v=2&albcp=22836103672&albag=186077925114&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22836103672&gbraid=0AAAAA_eFwRBQFFzoNpeBjJOFDobPSuYxf&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

 

[Dstrac]

Anyone have thoughts on the Tuxin version of the Daystate compressor? Are these the same compressor just different parts and manufacture? Anyone have total usage hours on either unit? Whats the benefit of paying the premium to Daystate or AoA?

Daystate compressor: https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/compressors/daystate-4500-psi-compressor-110v-super-leggero/

You can get the same compressor as generic brand for half-price: [TUXING 4500Psi High Pressure Diving Compressor 300Bar PCP Air Compressor 100L/min Air Flow for Scuba]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808037578582.html?src=google&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%213896.73%211285.92%21%21%21%21%21%40%2112000044303585097%21ppc%21%21%21&snps=y&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=752-015-9270&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=_oDc8nzq&gclsrc=aw.ds&albagn=888888&ds_e_adid=766084151206&ds_e_matchtype=search&ds_e_device=m&ds_e_network=g&ds_e_product_group_id=2435355305429&ds_e_product_id=en3256808037578582&ds_e_product_merchant_id=5551326180&ds_e_product_country=US&ds_e_product_language=en&ds_e_product_channel=online&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_url_v=2&albcp=22836103672&albag=186077925114&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22836103672&gbraid=0AAAAA_eFwRBQFFzoNpeBjJOFDobPSuYxf&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

That compressor is probably a very close clone of the Daystate, but I don't know how good that particular model is. Tuxing makes decent compressors. I have their basic twin cylinder compressor, its been running great for over a year.

Another option would be,
if you buy it through Amazon you can add the 3 year warranty for $150. Ive heard people have had good luck with Amazon warranties.

Amazon.com

 

[techna]

Little bit of a thread detour here, but if you’re from the paintball world you’ll understand. Has it ever hit you how much we took air fills for granted? I was immersed in the tournament paintball world for years both as a player and a touring gun tech for Bob Long and his teams. I don’t know exactly how many national tournaments I went to (as a tech for Bobby mostly), but it was over 40 all over the country. It wasn’t until after I got my first PCP and my Bauer compressor in 2016(?) that I considered the logistics of making air available to all of the players at a busy field on just a weekend. Then, multiply that many times at a big national event like World Cup @Disney in 2003 with over 200 teams, and something like 10 fields running simultaneously from sun up to sun down for 5 days. Just the two pro division NXL fields with fill stations in two pit areas each, and players topping off constantly between short points during a match, required a mind boggling supply of clean 4500 psi air.

Fast forward to 2025. I look at my Bauer and now my twin cylinder Air Venturi “backup compressor“ and get giddy thinking about the riches (in terms of air capacity) they represent for a single PCP shooter. But damn, thinking about those hectic days of being in the Pro pits with the yelling and cursing of paint drenched players rotating in and out of points, all overlaid by the near continuous slamming of the air fill button and and rapid rush of air into 4500psi tanks every few seconds really puts things in perspective.

 

[yvkostad]

Little bit of a thread detour here, but if you’re from the paintball world you’ll understand. Has it ever hit you how much we took air fills for granted? I was immersed in the tournament paintball world for years both as a player and a touring gun tech for Bob Long and his teams. I don’t know exactly how many national tournaments I went to (as a tech for Bobby mostly), but it was over 40 all over the country. It wasn’t until after I got my first PCP and my Bauer compressor in 2016(?) that I considered the logistics of making air available to all of the players at a busy field on just a weekend. Then, multiply that many times at a big national event like World Cup @Disney in 2003 with over 200 teams, and something like 10 fields running simultaneously from sun up to sun down for 5 days. Just the two pro division NXL fields with fill stations in two pit areas each, and players topping off constantly between short points during a match, required a mind boggling supply of clean 4500 psi air.

Fast forward to 2025. I look at my Bauer and now my twin cylinder Air Venturi “backup compressor“ and get giddy thinking about the riches (in terms of air capacity) they represent for a single PCP shooter. But damn, thinking about those hectic days of being in the Pro pits with the yelling and cursing of paint drenched players rotating in and out of points, all overlaid by the near continuous slamming of the air fill button and and rapid rush of air into 4500psi tanks every few seconds really puts things in perspective.

100 percent took it for granted. Iv also played for years and now that im older, Im building my own drill field. A Bauer would be great but I think for simple 2v2 drills and limited paint scenarios, i think a smaller compressor would be fine. Thinking of cascading 3 or 4 bottles (maybe 20 cuft 40 cuft?) to try and get the most out of 1 fill. Think the the bigger venturi or even the gxe5k2 could do the job? I had no idea the complexity of HPA but im learning quickly. What venturi do you have?

 

[yvkostad]

That compressor is probably a very close clone of the Daystate, but I don't know how good that particular model is. Tuxing makes decent compressors. I have their basic twin cylinder compressor, its been running great for over a year.

Another option would be,
if you buy it through Amazon you can add the 3 year warranty for $150. Ive heard people have had good luck with Amazon warranties.

Amazon.com

This actually might be a good option. What have you heard about assurion warranties? I've gotten mixed feedback but nothing relative to compressors extended warranty...

 

[SLICKNICK]

Anyone have thoughts on the Tuxin version of the Daystate compressor? Are these the same compressor just different parts and manufacture? Anyone have total usage hours on either unit? Whats the benefit of paying the premium to Daystate or AoA?

Daystate compressor: https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/compressors/daystate-4500-psi-compressor-110v-super-leggero/

You can get the same compressor as generic brand for half-price: [TUXING 4500Psi High Pressure Diving Compressor 300Bar PCP Air Compressor 100L/min Air Flow for Scuba]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808037578582.html?src=google&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%213896.73%211285.92%21%21%21%21%21%40%2112000044303585097%21ppc%21%21%21&snps=y&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=752-015-9270&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=_oDc8nzq&gclsrc=aw.ds&albagn=888888&ds_e_adid=766084151206&ds_e_matchtype=search&ds_e_device=m&ds_e_network=g&ds_e_product_group_id=2435355305429&ds_e_product_id=en3256808037578582&ds_e_product_merchant_id=5551326180&ds_e_product_country=US&ds_e_product_language=en&ds_e_product_channel=online&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_url_v=2&albcp=22836103672&albag=186077925114&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22836103672&gbraid=0AAAAA_eFwRBQFFzoNpeBjJOFDobPSuYxf&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

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This vevor looks the same, and it's for $941 . But tuxing call it 100L /min, and vevor shows it at 60L/M. Parts do look the same.

 

[techna]

100 percent took it for granted. Iv also played for years and now that im older, Im building my own drill field. A Bauer would be great but I think for simple 2v2 drills and limited paint scenarios, i think a smaller compressor would be fine. Thinking of cascading 3 or 4 bottles (maybe 20 cuft 40 cuft?) to try and get the most out of 1 fill. Think the the bigger venturi or even the gxe5k2 could do the job? I had no idea the complexity of HPA but im learning quickly. What venturi do you have?

This is the AV compressor I have. I’m not sure of the differences, but it seems like the Krypton is an updated and improved version of it. I ran it for the first time today and it only managed about 600psi in 30 minutes into my SCBA tank. That is quite a bit slower than the rated specs for the Krypton, so I need to do some digging. Maybe I’m spoiled by that 40+ year old Bauer, but it seems slow.

 

[yvkostad]

The Daystate will do fine in that role.

I expect you probably know this, but the best way to get the most fills out of that bank of cylinders would be to use them sequentially in a cascading manner - pick one tank to start with, and always open it first. When the pressure stabilizes, close it's valve and move on to the next cylinder, as needed to get to the full pressure in the paintball tank (initially you can do it on one or two tanks, but eventually it will take more cylinders to get there, and use the air from the lowest pressure tanks that can't fill the paintball tank to charge the lines and maybe put a some air into the paintball tank). Then when the paintball tank is full, close it's valve and go back to the lowest pressure SCUBA tank and open the valve to let the excess pressure in the line go into it, then close it up and then vent the lines. This will get you the most fills between refills of the cylinder bank. Then when you need to charge the bank, connect the Daystate, open up all the tanks, and let it do its thing . . .

Of course having that great a compressor on hand, you may find that a two or three tank cascade is plenty, and then you can use the other SCUBA tanks for something else.

Great breakdown bud. Is this what a fillbstation can do? Like the ones at paintball field with a single lever?

 

[AlanMcD]

Great breakdown bud. Is this what a fillbstation can do? Like the ones at paintball field with a single lever?

Honestly I don't know about the ones at paintball fields - I've never been to one. I imagine that they likely don't do the cascade approach, but just gang a bunch of tanks together - and have the compressor set to fire up when the pressure drops below whatever they use as a set point (since most of those places will be using dive compressors that can feed a lot of air quickly).