I am training for the Pyramid Cup Gunslyger competition. Therefore, I need to quickly acquire my target. However, when I put my cheek to the stock, I see either black or fuzzy for a long time before I can find the image. Worse, when I require a full view image, it quickly goes smaller towards the center, and black creeps in. So I spend a lot of time moving my head to find it again. Are there any suggestions besides practicing to get a consistent cheek hold and keep it? Would a rubber bellows eye piece help?
Other Acquiring target quickly with scope
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I have no experience in what you're pursuing, so take it with a grain of salt.
Are your rings and stock adjustable?
I would shoulder the rifle eyes closed, asume a shooting position open your eyes, and see how far out of adjustment your rig is.
Up or down misalignment can be ring hight adjustment, and right and left, cheak and shoulder pad adjustment.
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Sounds like your cheek weld is incorrect or you need a better scope. The scope should be mounted so that it's inline with where your head naturally falls. You don't want to hunt the scope, A scope too far forward or rearward will be very particular about eye placement. get into position then move one direction only to see which way the scope needs to go up, down. fore or aft. If it need to move sideways then you need to change the placement of your cheek which will change the height of your eye so you'll need to raise or lower the scope or comb on the stock if adjustable. A cheap scope at max magnification will only make things worse as well. start with the scope at minimum magnification unless it a fixed mag scope.
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It sounds like your having trouble locating the eyebox. The eye box is made up of eye relief "Fore and aft" and usable side positioning. Its always best to mount the scope so the eye relief falls into a natural comfortable position when bringing the rifle to shoulder. The depth and width of the eyebox varies scope to scope as well. The eyebox is so small on some scopes that their image is twitchy or fleeting. Quick acquisition is almost impossible with a tight eyebox.
Your relative eye relief changes depending on your shooting stance. For instance if you set your scope's eye relief for shooting offhand where the rifle is angled close to your chest then move to a bench where the rifle is typically more perpendicular to your body you'll find the scope too far away and yourself stretching your neck to get a good sight picture. Especially at higher magnification and or cheaper scopes.
Magnification is key. You'll never get quick acquisition on a high power because your field of view is too tight.
There's a lot more to this but this should get you started
Your relative eye relief changes depending on your shooting stance. For instance if you set your scope's eye relief for shooting offhand where the rifle is angled close to your chest then move to a bench where the rifle is typically more perpendicular to your body you'll find the scope too far away and yourself stretching your neck to get a good sight picture. Especially at higher magnification and or cheaper scopes.
Magnification is key. You'll never get quick acquisition on a high power because your field of view is too tight.
There's a lot more to this but this should get you started
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You are describing an improperly mounted scope “for your eyes ”. It may work mounted this way for someone else but you need to adjust it for your eyes. Even the best quality scopes will look exactly as you’ve described if improperly mounted, again “for your eyes“.
Not sure if I’m allowed to post a link so I won’t. Search for Warne scope rings website. Not Airgun specific and not top of the line quality, but affordable and they’ve been doing it for a long time and they work. Find the section on mounting a scope and they describe exactly what your situation is and how to correct each situation. This will work no matter what brand of rings you’re using, as long as they’re the right height or your stock and rail have enough room for adjustment.
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What kind of scope are you using? Are the rings the correct height? Are you bobbing your head up and down or forward and backwards? It doesn't sound like the scope is mounted in the right position if you are moving your around to get the eye relief correct. Or your head isn't landing the same spot every time? I put 1/8 neoprene foam on my cheek pads for comfort. Maybe a small piece of foam mounted in the right spot would help you as a guide? I have a big head and I can't use low profile rings.
I have a one piece scope mount on one of my guns and I love it. Its the right height. Its easy to move on the rail, clamps really solid and locks into place with 3 screws. It takes a few seconds to move it one slot then try it again. Once you get the position right you will know it.
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Shooting off a bench. I will experiment with the cheek weld next week and the scope position. Hate to move the scope as it is finally zeroed in. Thanks for the responses. I need to reread and study them some more.
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