Sheridan Weird issue with old push button safety Sheridan blue streak, NEED HELP!

[Wadcutter]

YEs , I was referring to your post. Even a smaller diameter steel rod wobbling thru that rifled barrel can damage the delicate rifling of a soft brass barrel. IF its just a few pellets like he said the 1/8" wood dowel should work. Your picture of all those pellets mashed together looks like a lead rod ! That truly is unbelievable.I would think the first pellet jam was from not enough gas or pumped air. But it should have got shot out on the second hit. And to keep firing away that many with nothing coming out sounds totally ridiculous. I once had a used Feinwerkbau 124. When I tried to shooti it at a target nothing came out. I stopped and looked into the barrel and sure enough a stuck pellet. It was easy to push out with the wood dowel. The problem was a crystalized piston seal that didnt work very well. anyway if it was my sheridan thats how I would approach it.

More than a few compacted pellets stuck in barrels isn't unusual. I've removed many long slugs, but that was the top contender. An 1/8 inch wood dowel will split if used on a long compaction. A 5/32 brass rod used on a pellet slug like the one shown above will only compact it further if a center hole isn't created. I've heard of screw shaped bullet extractors being used, but not sure it would work on such a long compressed slug. Melting through the center first is a proven technique for me. Your point about the steel on brass is recognized, but the Sheridan barrels are bronze, which is significantly harder. The applied method suggested will not cause damage. You may still disagree, and might also not like this original Sheridan steel cleaning rod from the late 1940s to early 50s raking up and down the rifling.

 

[Hughjazz69]

Do you have the parts?
I hope the pellet removal is an easy one.

I do not, if you have a source that would really be appreciated. Thanks!

I would never use a steel rod in a brass/bronze barrel!! YEs take the bolt out. You will need a 1/8" hex nut drive to get the lug out watch if there is a tiny ball detent and the little spring that will jump out the side when you slowly slide the bolt out. Now from the breech out to the muzzle you can first try a 1/8" wooden dowel and tap it to dislodge the pellets.This should work IF the wood fails step up to maybe a brass rod or a teflon covered cleaning rod in 177 or 20 cal. Some taps should dislodge the lead pellets.

I’m gonna try a wooden rod first but if that fails I was going to try and find either brass or steel but I guess I could just put some electrical tape around the tip to try and protect the barrel. Hopefully the wood works first though.

Thanks!

 

[Hughjazz69]

That's not too many, so just tapping out with the brass rod should work. Make sure to still spray WD40 in there first.

If you're comment about not using a steel rod is referring to my post, please read again. It is a small diameter rod and only used to melt through a lengthy pellet jam, not used as a push stick.

I’ll hit it with some wd-40 in the morning and get to work. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Hughjazz69]

More than a few compacted pellets stuck in barrels isn't unusual. I've removed many long slugs, but that was the top contender. An 1/8 inch wood dowel will split if used on a long compaction. A 5/32 brass rod used on a pellet slug like the one shown above will only compact it further if a center hole isn't created. I've heard of screw shaped bullet extractors being used, but not sure it would work on such a long compressed slug. Melting through the center first is a proven technique for me. Your point about the steel on brass is recognized, but the Sheridan barrels are bronze, which is significantly harder. The applied method suggested will not cause damage. You may still disagree, and might also not like this original Sheridan steel cleaning rod from the late 1940s to early 50s raking up and down the rifling.
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So you think heating that rod up till it’s red hot is the best way to go? Would it hurt to try some wd-40 and a rod first and if light pressure doesn’t work then melt a hole through? Also, you said this barrel is bronze instead of brass correct?

 

[cvarcher]

The pellets are stuck in the barrel because it was shot without the bolt being closed due to the missing cam. "My opinion"

YEs, that makes sense.

 

[.20calguy]

I do not, if you have a source that would really be appreciated. Thanks!

I’m gonna try a wooden rod first but if that fails I was going to try and find either brass or steel but I guess I could just put some electrical tape around the tip to try and protect the barrel. Hopefully the wood works first though.

Thanks!

Sounds like you have good instincts for figuring things out. I will look around to see if I can find your parts from the usual places, if not I will hook you up with a local guy that does by private message.

 

[DonR]

Please note that Post #3 above (by Wadcutter) had ebay links for the required parts, kinda expensive but available from a reliable source.

Don R.

 

[cvarcher]

More than a few compacted pellets stuck in barrels isn't unusual. I've removed many long slugs, but that was the top contender. An 1/8 inch wood dowel will split if used on a long compaction. A 5/32 brass rod used on a pellet slug like the one shown above will only compact it further if a center hole isn't created. I've heard of screw shaped bullet extractors being used, but not sure it would work on such a long compressed slug. Melting through the center first is a proven technique for me. Your point about the steel on brass is recognized, but the Sheridan barrels are bronze, which is significantly harder. The applied method suggested will not cause damage. You may still disagree, and might also not like this original Sheridan steel cleaning rod from the late 1940s to early 50s raking up and down the rifling.
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LOL I actually had that cleaning rod for my first sheridan when I didnt know much about rifling. These days I us a weed wacker line with a lsot at the end . No problems there. I undertsnad that a really compacted slug of pellets may be near impossible to remove. and melting a hold thru them woudl be my last resort. I thought he said it may be just a few pellets. Lets see what he finds.

 

[Hughjazz69]

YEs, that makes sense.

The pellets are stuck in the barrel because it was shot without the bolt being closed due to the missing cam. "My opinion"

If that were the case wouldn’t pumping it up and firing while the cam plate is installed cause the pellets to be shot out if they are the correct size? I assumed they were the wrong size pellets because surely with the cover now installed they would have come out right? By the way the gun showed up like this so these are all just assumptions for now

 

[.20calguy]

If that were the case wouldn’t pumping it up and firing while the cam plate is installed cause the pellets to be shot out if they are the correct size? I assumed they were the wrong size pellets because surely with the cover now installed they would have come out right? By the way the gun showed up like this so these are all just assumptions for now

I'm thinking there were a few attempts to fire it without the cam by someone before you got it. That would account for the pellets stuck in the barrel. Only my speculation. Lightly tap them out and put that problem in the past.

 

[.20calguy]

If that were the case wouldn’t pumping it up and firing while the cam plate is installed cause the pellets to be shot out if they are the correct size? I assumed they were the wrong size pellets because surely with the cover now installed they would have come out right? By the way the gun showed up like this so these are all just assumptions for now

You have the cam, cover, and screws now?

 

[Hughjazz69]

You have the cam, cover, and screws now?

Borrowed from my cousins gun just to check the fitting and everything before ordering my own. Thought maybe firing a dry shot would dislodge a pellet but now I know for sure there are quite a few pellets in there and that wasn’t the smartest idea lol. Hit it with some wd-40 this morning and I’m about to give the rod a shot before going full macgyver with the blow torch. I also saw a video with a .22 barrel cleaning rod where someone attached the end of a wood screw and was able to thread that into each pellet and then yank them out that way. I’m still on the fence about which method I want to try first.

 

[Hughjazz69]

I'm thinking there were a few attempts to fire it without the cam by someone before you got it. That would account for the pellets stuck in the barrel. Only my speculation. Lightly tap them out and put that problem in the past.

Yup that makes sense, seems like they fired quite a few before they realized what was happening. There is one a few inches from the top of the barrel and there’s one about 6 inches from the breech, I’m hoping it’s not solid pellets all the way through because that would mean that more than 2/3 of the barrel is filled with pellets… what do you think, try the wood screw attached to a barrel cleaning rod to remove them individually, or heat up a steel/brass rod and melt my way into the pellets? Been stuck at this crossroads all day lol

 

[.20calguy]

Yup that makes sense, seems like they fired quite a few before they realized what was happening. There is one a few inches from the top of the barrel and there’s one about 6 inches from the breech, I’m hoping it’s not solid pellets all the way through because that would mean that more than 2/3 of the barrel is filled with pellets… what do you think, try the wood screw attached to a barrel cleaning rod to remove them individually, or heat up a steel/brass rod and melt my way into the pellets? Been stuck at this crossroads all day lol

I would get behind them with a rod and tap them out of the barrel from the breech end.
If you use steel put some tape on it, like you said.
Mark the rod to see your progress take your time!

 

[.20calguy]

Borrowed from my cousins gun just to check the fitting and everything before ordering my own. Thought maybe firing a dry shot would dislodge a pellet but now I know for sure there are quite a few pellets in there and that wasn’t the smartest idea lol. Hit it with some wd-40 this morning and I’m about to give the rod a shot before going full macgyver with the blow torch. I also saw a video with a .22 barrel cleaning rod where someone attached the end of a wood screw and was able to thread that into each pellet and then yank them out that way. I’m still on the fence about which method I want to try first.

Keep it simple until simple fails.

Get professional help before you ruin a nice piece of history.

 

[.20calguy]

Really?
It's been eight hours. Have you got the pellets out, or any report of what happened?

 

[cvarcher]

I coudnt go to bed until I had those pellets out!!