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HFT Rifle Raw Micro vs BRK Carbine

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With either the mini or the micro I'm assuming the cocking lever can be switched to either side of the gun?

How about bottles, is the bottle on the micro as thick as on the mini in case I want a 480cc on the micro for high shot count?

And 12 fpe in .177, is it a hassle to convert either one to this power level? What's entailed, just a quick explanation so I the jist ?

This would be for plinking on my property and goofing around in unlimited FT at 12 fpe.

Got any links for the best aftermarket .177 mags?

Thanks
 
Hello there,

I am getting into HFT and have narrowed the choice to these two. The reason is that I am now interested in shorter length airguns and would prefer something that I can take around easily and shoot outside of the competitions.
The BRK is much more expensive, any of you can compare the two guns for HFT? For example some negative feedback for lack of adequate cheekpiece adjustability, but I dont know how that compares to the RAW.

Easy choice… neither. Get the raw pistol and put an AR15 butt stock on it. They come in .177 12ftlb or 20 ftlb versions. Here’s mine next to my Mini.

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Easy choice… neither. Get the raw pistol and put an AR15 butt stock on it. They come in .177 12ftlb or 20 ftlb versions. Here’s mine next to my Mini.

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Do you have a link to the butt stock? Is it a direct fit or needs some modification? And can you change that ugly grip?
 
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I have an almost new RTI P3 in .22. What if I bought a barrel kit in .177 and just convert it and save some dollars?

What grain and brand is popular among HFT shooters?

For Hunter class field target here in the US, you want to be close to 20fpe, but not over.

Far and away, the two most used pellets are the JSB 10.3 and the 13.4 Monsters (Original), both in .177. Less used, but also competitive is the .20/13.73, also by JSB.

Those three pellets are what people who want to win shoot, simple as that. Much of it has to do with BC, and the fact that those three are as good as it gets for the combination of weight and speed that keeps you legal (again, slightly under 20fpe).

Caveat: I say JSB but some swear by FX or AA or Daystate branded pellets ....they're the same pellet, made by the same manufacturer, sub contracted out to be placed in different tins. Yes, a particular batch of xzy may really ji e with a particular barrel, but that doesn't change the fact that JSB made them.

As for getting a .177 barrel for your RTI, it's not a typical rifle we see at FT matches, but that doesn't mean it can't be competitive, in the right hands and with the right amounts of practice.
 
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For Hunter class field target here in the US, you want to be close to 20fpe, but not over.

Far and away, the two most used pellets are the JSB 10.3 and the 13.4 Monsters (Original), both in .177. Less used, but also competitive is the .20/13.73, also by JSB.

Those three pellets are what people who want to win shoot, simple as that. Much of it has to do with BC, and the fact that those three are as good as it gets for the combination of weight and speed that keeps you legal (again, slightly under 20fpe).

Caveat: I say JSB but some swear by FX or AA or Daystate branded pellets ....they're the same pellet, made by the same manufacturer, sub contracted out to be placed in different tins. Yes, a particular batch of xzy may really ji e with a particular barrel, but that doesn't change the fact that JSB made them.

As for getting a .177 barrel for your RTI, it's not a typical rifle we see at FT matches, but that doesn't mean it can't be competitive, in the right hands and with the right amounts of practice.
So 10.3 gr shooting at 870 fps would be a good idea
 
Do you have a link to the butt stock? Is it a direct fit or needs some modification? And can you change that ugly grip?
My specific butt stock is a raw. But any AR15 stock will work there are dozens of different styles to choose from.

All you need is the ar15 buffer tube that threads right in to the back of the pistol. No mods needed. And the butt stock slips over the buffer tube.

Same with the grip. Dozens to choose from, any ar15 grip will work.

Not all stocks and buffer tubes are designed to work in conjunction with one another and you may need a castle nut depending on what style you choose. Let me if you have more questions about compatibility.
 
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So 10.3 gr shooting at 870 fps would be a good idea

Yep, anything under about 935fps, for the 10.3s. Whatever speed your particular barrels seems to do best with (under the fpe limit).

In HFT, is it allowed to attach the bipod to picatinny rail?

Nope, bipod must fall away freely when the gun is lifted.
 
6 Inches is plenty for a rest bag to be attached. So I guess that's a yes.

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If it is under the 6" rule your good.
But do note: NO accessories can be added or taken off during the match ( Hunter class Rules ) so ... it must be attached prior to start of match and stay attached the entire match.
 
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If it is under the 6" rule your good.
But do note: NO accessories can be added or taken off during the match ( Hunter class Rules ) so ... it must be attached prior to start of match and stay attached the entire match.
An exception to this are slings:
“A rifle sling may be used & must be attached to the rifle at two points, the fore end & butt stock.
Slings may be attached & detached during a match. Single point slings are not allowed.”