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I'm looking for some help. Last year I got tired of messing with the air tanks and PCP's in general (I only had an AirForce Talon at the time and did not like leaving an air tank inside a hot car) and made the decision to go back to spring piston airguns. I had an R7 and HW97kand then purchased and R9. In June things went south, I spent a week helping my son move, a lot of heavy lifting and pulling dollies up and down slopes with heavy loads. I'm 79 and this brought arthritis in my hands to the point I can no longer cock the R9 or HW97k without pain. This leaves me with only the R7 to shoot.


I really want a more powerful air rifle than the R7 and that means that I will once again need to go to a PCP rifle plus I want to keep it light as the weight of the HW97k with a scope does cause pain in my hands just to carry it. I like to do a lot of shooting in places away from the house so shot count is important. I would like to stay away from rifles that require over 250bar as I plan on getting a small compressor and not stressing it. I keep looking at a Daystate Huntsman and the AirArms S510 but I would really like a larger shot count and easier adjust-ability. The other choices are an FX Wildcat or Maverick. Before purchasing one of the FX 's I really need to get hold of one to see how they will handle; central Missouri is a dry area for airguns. I do like the adjust-ability of the FX guns as I am really looking at .177 and running around 15 to 18 fpe and this will be for birds, squirrel, and rabbits. The ability to quickly turn the FX's down with the power wheel for shooting starlings and sparrows in barns is also a consideration plus they will be easier to handle inside barns.
 
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I'm looking for some help. Last year I got tired of messing with the air tanks and PCP's in general (I only had an AirForce Talon at the time and did not like leaving an air tank inside a hot car) and made the decision to go back to spring piston airguns. I had an R7 and HW97kand then purchased and R9. In June things went south, I spent a week helping my son move, a lot of heavy lifting and pulling dollies up and down slopes with heavy loads. I'm 79 and this brought arthritis in my hands to the point I can no longer cock the R9 or HW97k without pain. This leaves me with only the R7 to shoot.


I really want a more powerful air rifle than the R7 and that means that I will once again need to go to a PCP rifle plus I want to keep it light as the weight of the HW97k with a scope does cause pain in my hands just to carry it. I like to do a lot of shooting in places away from the house so shot count is important. I would like to stay away from rifles that require over 250bar as I plan on getting a small compressor and not stressing it. I keep looking at a Daystate Huntsman and the AirArms S510 but I would really like a larger shot count and easier adjust-ability. The other choices are an FX Wildcat or Maverick. Before purchasing one of the FX 's I really need to get hold of one to see how they will handle; central Missouri is a dry area for airguns. I do like the adjust-ability of the FX guns as I am really looking at .177 and running around 15 to 18 fpe and this will be for birds, squirrel, and rabbits. The ability to quickly turn the FX's down with the power wheel for shooting starlings and sparrows in barns is also a consideration plus they will be easier to handle inside barns.
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If you don't need a repeater, look at an old Benjamin discovery. I'm running one in 177 at 16 fpe for home birds and I can make 60 yard bird shots all day if not head shots. Meanwhile I have a 75 fpe impact with a ballistics solving optic and range finder on it and a 43 fpe dreamline that aren't being used for this. It's single shot, it may require a spring and an hdd to do it, but im getting 25 shots on a fill and it's so precise with good glass I don't need to use my repeaters. I can't believe I slept on this gun when it was being made and got a 25mrod instead that I don't use for anything.
 
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If you like FX, Like having 22 shots in a magazine, Like light and Compact ?
Try and find yourself a DREAM LINE TACTICAL Compact

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You mentioned FX Wildcat and I will add my 2 cents. I have an FX Wildcat MK3 Bottle in .25cal. While it took me some fussing with things to get the gun shooting as I like, this thing is a tack driver on my 30 meter range. I don't shoot critters any longer, personal choice, and have not taken the rifle into the forest for longer shots. The Wildcat seems to just fit me right, weight doesn't seem to be much of an issue, and with the bottle I have plenty of shots for a range session. I have rebuilt the front regulator and replaced the original plastic piston with a brass unit (the fellas at Utah Airguns were a big help), adjusted the trigger to my liking, and a few other things to make working on the gun easier for me. Hopefully you will be able to find several of the guns you are looking at to handle and compare.
 
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Teep said:
I'm looking for some help. Last year I got tired of messing with the air tanks and PCP's in general (I only had an AirForce Talon at the time and did not like leaving an air tank inside a hot car) and made the decision to go back to spring piston airguns. I had an R7 and HW97kand then purchased and R9. In June things went south, I spent a week helping my son move, a lot of heavy lifting and pulling dollies up and down slopes with heavy loads. I'm 79 and this brought arthritis in my hands to the point I can no longer cock the R9 or HW97k without pain. This leaves me with only the R7 to shoot.


I really want a more powerful air rifle than the R7 and that means that I will once again need to go to a PCP rifle plus I want to keep it light as the weight of the HW97k with a scope does cause pain in my hands just to carry it. I like to do a lot of shooting in places away from the house so shot count is important. I would like to stay away from rifles that require over 250bar as I plan on getting a small compressor and not stressing it. I keep looking at a Daystate Huntsman and the AirArms S510 but I would really like a larger shot count and easier adjust-ability. The other choices are an FX Wildcat or Maverick. Before purchasing one of the FX 's I really need to get hold of one to see how they will handle; central Missouri is a dry area for airguns. I do like the adjust-ability of the FX guns as I am really looking at .177 and running around 15 to 18 fpe and this will be for birds, squirrel, and rabbits. The ability to quickly turn the FX's down with the power wheel for shooting starlings and sparrows in barns is also a consideration plus they will be easier to handle inside barns.
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If you don't need a repeater, look at an old Benjamin discovery. I'm running one in 177 at 16 fpe for home birds and I can make 60 yard bird shots all day if not head shots. Meanwhile I have a 75 fpe impact with a ballistics solving optic and range finder on it and a 43 fpe dreamline that aren't being used for this. It's single shot, it may require a spring and an hdd to do it, but im getting 25 shots on a fill and it's so precise with good glass I don't need to use my repeaters. I can't believe I slept on this gun when it was being made and got a 25mrod instead that I don't use for anything.
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Something to consider might be the Crosman 3622 (Discovery replacement). With a scope, air and a .22 pellet in the steel breech the rifle weighs maybe five pounds. The rifle only fills to 2000 psi and gets about 20 shots per fill. It does have a little bark to it but that can be addressed easily.

I really like mine. Easy to use, easy to fill, easy to shoot and easy to carry. Airgun Revisions has them in stock and can be purchased with a steel breech for scope duty.

www.airgunrevisions.com

Crosman 3622 with steel breech

The Crosman 3622 PCP unleashes .22 cal fury at a down-to-earth price. Expect earth-shattering 900 FPS to pulverize cans, varmints, or bullseyes at 50 yards. This beast boasts pinpoint accuracy for PCP power without the PCP price gouging. Forget expensive refills, the hand-pump friendly 2000 PSI...
www.airgunrevisions.com www.airgunrevisions.com
 
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Hear you about the arthritis... it's what makes us grumpy old guys grumpy. ☹️

Have the S510, it's a very pretty PCP but heavy, limited shot-count and only only rudimentary adjustability. Accuracy is good. I found the ergonomics of the S510 walnut stock to be incompatible and had to exchange it for and adjustable laminated stock. I suggest that you handle the S510 before committing to one.

Check out the FX Crown. I have a .22/500mm MK2 and it's my go-to all around favorite PCP out of the dozen or so PCPs that I have. The Crown is one of my lighter PCPs (only my Maximus and DRS are lighter), shot-count is good as are the ergonomics and performance. It's fully adjustable (transfer port, hammer spring and regulator) as well. It fills to 250 bar maximum, my regulator is set to 130 bar so anything over that is fine.

Good luck in your search!

Cheers!
 
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FX's SIMPLE guns are stellar (Royale, Wildcat, Streamline, Dreamline, etc.). Most of the negative comments I've read here are by people who base their opinion on experiences with their more complicated, o-ring laden guns like the Impact, for one example. Imho, SIMPLICITY RULES! They DO have guns that can deliver accuracy & repeatability without all the work & frustration that accompanies it.
 
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Well, I’m a one hand shooter with arthritis so even though I love my spring, I should light PCP yes because of comfort I love my jet one which is super light but not very accurate and 177 after 30 yards. I’m also very impressed with the Pinty bull Pup it is Very light easy 46 shots in 22 and it was right around $250 or less if you get a good coupon they’re always on sale so I must say the magazines only shoot nine shots in 22 and I haven’t been able to find a place with their sale Unexpected replacements but other than that I would highly recommend the Pinty
 
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I've been quite happy with my Dreamline Tactical in .177. They weigh about 6.5lbs without a scope and if you were thoughtful in your purchase in that regard, you could come in under 7.5lbs fully dressed. I get 66+ full powered shots from mine but I like to turn the power down for target shooting, in which case I can easily double the shot count. Accuracy has been great, though I did find that adding the carbon fiber sleeve on the liner and carefully arranging the shroud spacers was necessary to get there. Minor expense and a little time.
 
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Something to consider might be the Crosman 3622 (Discovery replacement). With a scope, air and a .22 pellet in the steel breech the rifle weighs maybe five pounds. The rifle only fills to 2000 psi and gets about 20 shots per fill. It does have a little bark to it but that can be addressed easily.

I really like mine. Easy to use, easy to fill, easy to shoot and easy to carry. Airgun Revisions has them in stock and can be purchased with a steel breech for scope duty.

www.airgunrevisions.com

Crosman 3622 with steel breech

The Crosman 3622 PCP unleashes .22 cal fury at a down-to-earth price. Expect earth-shattering 900 FPS to pulverize cans, varmints, or bullseyes at 50 yards. This beast boasts pinpoint accuracy for PCP power without the PCP price gouging. Forget expensive refills, the hand-pump friendly 2000 PSI...
www.airgunrevisions.com www.airgunrevisions.com
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Because it was today's work I highly recommend the tko22 for them, it's cheaper and works the best of all in my collection for THAT gun. I have a brand new Ryu that I need to buy a gun for now 😂. A 175 dollar used gun has a 3000 dollar bells and whistle gun stuck in its case because it's too powerful.
 
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Gerry52 said:
FX's SIMPLE guns are stellar (Royale, Wildcat, Streamline, Dreamline, etc.). Most of the negative comments I've read here are by people who base their opinion on experiences with their more complicated, o-ring laden guns like the Impact, for one example. Imho, SIMPLICITY RULES! They DO have guns that can deliver accuracy & repeatability without all the work & frustration that accompanies it.
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I guess the moral of my story was it doesn't have to cost a lot to be precise. I agree on the dreamline as a great option, especially the little compact carbon bottle ones. Compare a dreamline rebuild kit to an impact, theyre not too far off. The architecture of the dreamline is nicer to work on. That's my 43 fpe 25. 380mm compact.

I have a bad wrist from a failed bone graft and surgery, the dreamline and the discovery are my go-to hunters because I can hold them nice and steady without causing 2 days of pain after.
 
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Well, you already put the PCP guns down once and it seems picking one back up might just be temporary until you get Mr. Itus back under control. If that were my situation I wouldn't go all in on an expensive gun when I can make the same little holes as the higher dollar with some thing much less expensive.
After all.. PCP guns have the same characteristics now that made you put them down before. I don't care who makes or much much you pay for a PCP, they all need some level of attention at some point. Orings don't last forever. I hear folks all the time talk about the quality of their guns and they use the same orings the cheap ones do. And that's typically where they all fail.
Just my opinion. Never have and never will pay more than $300 for an airgun. Now maybe if I depended on it for survival I might reconsider.
 
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I was working around in the shop today and the $200 Hatsan Flash Gen1 was sitting on the gun rest. I accidently bumped it and the fell off and onto the bench. I picked it up and aimed downrange and fired a shot. I had to move the windage turret 2 clicks to the right and maybe didn't even need to. If that was a $2k gun with a $500 scope on it I would still be crying.
 
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I was working around in the shop today and the $200 Hatsan Flash Gen1 was sitting on the gun rest. I accidently bumped it and the fell off and onto the bench. I picked it up and aimed downrange and fired a shot. I had to move the windage turret 2 clicks to the right and maybe didn't even need to. If that was a $2k gun with a $500 scope on it I would still be crying.
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This is my #1 issue with most the pcp's I've had. One of them I swear losses it's zero if you just look at it wrong 😅
 
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