N/A Do most suppressors clip?

[abstruse]

I've experienced clipping with two rifles/suppressors. Both suppressors are DannyFl, one rifle is AV bullpup and one is Hatsan Bullboss, both .25 cal. It seems that it doesn't take many bumps on the suppressors to cause them to clip.

Is this typical?

If so, why? Is the suppressor construction that flimsy? Is their attachment just too weak?

Of course, one could keep boring them out until they no longer clipped, but at the cost of more noise.

Your thoughts and experiences? Thanx.

 

[Scotay42]

Nope bad mounting. Off center shroud more than likeley. Suppressor is good, what it is on, not so much.

 

[Kgphotos]

I’ve had lots of moderators going back over the last 17 years that I’ve been into PCP rifles and none of them have ever had a clipping problem. Maybe you just had a bit of bad luck.
Kenny

 

[woogie_man]

Nope, but also understand that there are plenty of things that can go wrong with a can.

The concentricity of the barrel.
The threading on the barrel.
The crown of the barrel.
The threads on the can itself.
The internals of the unit.
The quality of the unit, and materials that its made of.

There are a number of things that need to go right for a can/mod/pickle/ldc, whatever you want to call them. This is typically why you will hear manufactures tell you to go up a size in caliber for the unit. This is also why getting a barrel threaded PROPPERLY can cost quite a bit, and most people are very particular on who they have do it for them.

 

[trapdoor2]

Have two, no clipping. The DonnyFL (Sumo) is .25/.30 size. I ordered the .22/.25 size but they called and recommended I change to the larger one for my .25.

From what I've read, the mod bore doesn't need to be all that tight to the bore. If I had clipping, I'd be checking for concentricity and probably reaming to open it up.

 

[HogKiller]

Did something stupid again, and my Maverick fell and hit the Donny Mod. pushed the barrel back, had to finesse the barrel pin back in then a bit of filing, My zero moved about 2" at 25 yards, recentered it and all's good no clipping. Did the same stupid stunt with my JSAR Raptor, Donny Sumo started clipping, bought a new on and all was good. IF I knew how to take them apart I'd look inside to see what's happening.

 

[Vetmx]

Guns with substandard machining probably make up 90% of clippers.

 

[markhooper]

Guns with substandard machining probably make up 90% of clippers.

mostly the machining on the gun.. and lots of times that moderator is on the shroud and no decent barrel bushings to keep everything straight..
I actually prefer a heavier barrel and threads on the barrel instead of the thin aluminum shroud..
Mark

 

[3Crows]

No clipping with my DFLs on my four Maruaders or two Urbans.

 

[daddypaddy]

is this topic open for conversation again?

 

[AmericanPitCorsojay]

I've experienced clipping with two rifles/suppressors. Both suppressors are DannyFl, one rifle is AV bullpup and one is Hatsan Bullboss, both .25 cal. It seems that it doesn't take many bumps on the suppressors to cause them to clip.

Is this typical?

If so, why? Is the suppressor construction that flimsy? Is their attachment just too weak?

Of course, one could keep boring them out until they no longer clipped, but at the cost of more noise.

Your thoughts and experiences? Thanx.

I had the same problem with DonnyFl ,30 cal

 

[Ratzy]

I have had clipping two times. One was operator error, didn't finish tightening the moderator down. The other was a commercially 3D printed moderator and I'm not sure why.

Given how many moderators I have, 16 or so, clipping should not happen. If it does my prime suspect would be the mount. As was explained above a shroud mounted moderator without solid connection to the barrel would be the most obvious. The alternative is something altering the pellet trajectory at exit from the barrel. That could be a damaged pellet or a pellet with a defect making it unbalanced.

 

[6gun]

I've experienced clipping with two rifles/suppressors. Both suppressors are DannyFl, one rifle is AV bullpup and one is Hatsan Bullboss, both .25 cal. It seems that it doesn't take many bumps on the suppressors to cause them to clip.

Is this typical?

If so, why? Is the suppressor construction that flimsy? Is their attachment just too weak?

Of course, one could keep boring them out until they no longer clipped, but at the cost of more noise.

Your thoughts and experiences? Thanx.

It's not the moderator, it's your guns. I was waiting to see hatsan

 

[ChickenDumpling]

Only time I've had clipping was with the printed moderators. After little more looking ... general consensus was a threaded barrel that takes the mod directly. So far I have not had any issues with a reputable made moderator on a shrouded barrel with the threaded adapter.

 

[beerthief]

is this topic open for conversation again?

as i read it , we are only discussing clipping problem .( And now for my .02 ) anything mentioned so far can be the problem. i would check the places above and if all good , can you check on different guns ? Now the sticky question / have you ever had trouble aligning the threads (cross threading )

 

[AmericanPitCorsojay]

I have a lot ,and the donny fl is the only one that is doing it. I can put a cheap buck rail on and it dont do it. Try a different one and u will see.

 

[beerthief]

I've experienced clipping with two rifles/suppressors. Both suppressors are DannyFl, one rifle is AV bullpup and one is Hatsan Bullboss, both .25 cal. It seems that it doesn't take many bumps on the suppressors to cause them to clip.

Is this typical?

If so, why? Is the suppressor construction that flimsy? Is their attachment just too weak?

Of course, one could keep boring them out until they no longer clipped, but at the cost of more noise.

Your thoughts and experiences? Thanx.

Call DFL .

 

[Matt7467]

Which moderator from Donny? I have multiple and have had zero issues. I know you mentioned both being .25 cal, are you using a .22/.25 moderator of upsizing a caliber like a .25/.30? If not upsizing that may have something to do with it, I've never had an issue but was warned of that when first buying one. If you are upsizing, then its either something wrong with the way its mounted or the barrel itself. With it happening on more than one setup, I'd say something with the threads and mounting over it being the barrel on both guns. Crazier things have happened

 

[cavedweller]

I've experienced clipping with two rifles/suppressors. Both suppressors are DannyFl, one rifle is AV bullpup and one is Hatsan Bullboss, both .25 cal. It seems that it doesn't take many bumps on the suppressors to cause them to clip.

Is this typical?

If so, why? Is the suppressor construction that flimsy? Is their attachment just too weak?

Of course, one could keep boring them out until they no longer clipped, but at the cost of more noise.

Your thoughts and experiences? Thanx.

prob not the suppresor, more likely your shroud or machined part on the end of your barrel, unless your using too small of a suppressor ?

 

[6gun]

Which moderator from Donny? I have multiple and have had zero issues. I know you mentioned both being .25 cal, are you using a .22/.25 moderator of upsizing a caliber like a .25/.30? If not upsizing that may have something to do with it, I've never had an issue but was warned of that when first buying one. If you are upsizing, then its either something wrong with the way its mounted or the barrel itself. With it happening on more than one setup, I'd say something with the threads and mounting over it being the barrel on both guns. Crazier things have happened

It's not going to be the moderator imho. It's whatever hes putting it on being very slightly out of spec. I have 4 Donnys, and a bunch of home brews across 4 brands of guns. The only clipping I ever got was my marauder because the shroud/barrel/barrel band/air stripper were all sloppy and tolerances stacked. A little delrin bushing and new orings solved the clipping. Use a cleaning rod to help you figure out where you lay.