N/A Dots, Peeps or Scopes ??

[Bear-of-Grayling]

I like to shoot all three. It’s amazing to me when my eyes are behaving just how accurate one can be without any magnification. I probably have as many dots on airguns as scopes. Also some diopters. Just fun for me to mix it up. The dots amaze me the most. Pistol or rifle they are accurate, fun and easy to use. If I really want to check ”dead center” accuracy, a scope can’t be beaten. Shooting bullseye’s with a diopter is the ultimate challenge. I just set up these three Daisy’s with a dot, diopter and scope. They are fun and incredibly accurate. So, do you have favorite? Rags to riches, pictures encouraged.

 

[marflow 777]

the daisies come with diopters so let set those aside
now they are going to be a great little rifle with a scope because the rifle is not heavy and the would be adding much and in this case the Daisies are easy to shoulder
now a Reflex Sight is an interesting idea also light but with all the non C models loading can be a PITA so i think i would move it forward
the diopters that are put on these are, lets say, very cheap but if you still have the eyes 10m shooting will be fun
i think i agree that these are fun to shoot with whatever sight you use

 

[MJS]

Yes, I use all three, but most of my pesting for home-intrusive critters is under 30 feet. I prefer open sights for that. Everything else is for fun.

 

[Steve Milbocker]

Love to shoot peeps. Might be the nostalgia or maybe it’s just the magic The FWB 603 is my latest acquisition

 

[Steve Milbocker]

I have nothing against scopes either and the FWB 300S wears one from time to time.

 

[.20calguy]

My eyes are at mess but I still manage some good shots. My 853 is scoped at the moment, but a pain to load with the scope in the way.

One memorable shot I had was very uncomfortable due to my eyes. It was offhand with a .22 pistol with open sights at fifty yards. The target was the little white box that my ear plugs came in. The bright white box was set against a bright green evening sunlit backdrop.
After a hand ful of misses I put on my readers and could see the sights perfectly, but the target was just a white blob that I aimed at the center of. I hit a quarter inch from dead center. I still have that little box hanging on the wall over my desk at work. Lol
I wound up scoping that pistol because the sights were so uncomfortable for my old eyes.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

My 853 is scoped at the moment, but a pain to load with the scope in the way.

If this 853c repeater is as accurate as my scoped 753w then I will switch receivers/stocks. I’m not holding my breath because repeaters are inherently a bit less accurate. Maybe in this case it will be different because the Daisy clip is made of rubber and does not size the pellets going through it. Would make loading the scoped model easy.

 

[MDriskill]

Guess where I fall on this spectrum, LOL (pic is most of the spares not currently on rifles). Meanwhile, two of my three scopes are still in their boxes...

 

[beerthief]

My best is with a scope , Diopters are just OK and open or iron's are defiantly my worst option . But in defense of open sights , the front blade is usually 4 to 10 times the width of the .25 dot i am aiming at .

 

[r1lover]

Never shot a dot but enjoy OEM opens, peeps, apertures and scopes. I expect more from a scoped gun so stress more over POI's. I lower my expectations with any form of irons and am more relaxed. Both are fun in their own way. My wife's HW30 does double duty.

 

[EMrider]

Scopes only for me. Just can't get comfortable with peeps or open sights, and I like the extra accuracy that comes with a scope. That said, I hate heavy/bulky scopes. On most guns, I've found the best setup to be a Hawke Vantage 2-7x32ao.
R

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

For all of you that have never tried a dot. Believe me. You are missing a big piece of the enjoyment. I have several of these. Springers do not effect this dot. You will be amazed with the accuracy, quick acquisition, SIZE and enjoyment you will get from a dot. This one is for a dovetail mount. It’s so cheap you have nothing to loose.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

I just got this NOS Daisy 853c repeater. Spend a few hours yesterday installing a sear adjustment screw, polishing contact points, resealing, cleaning and lubing. Trigger out of the box was 6.5 lbs, with creep. Now 14 oz with no creep. First outing this morning I quickly sighted in the dot. This is my first official 5 shot group using H&N Econ II 7.4 grain. Velocity was consistent at 520 fps. First shot the four silhouettes. Four in a row were a hit. Then this 5 shot group. Both at 40 yards. I’m liking this 853c.

 

[jps2486]

Scopes only for me. Just can't get comfortable with peeps or open sights, and I like the extra accuracy that comes with a scope. That said, I hate heavy/bulky scopes. On most guns, I've found the best setup to be a Hawke Vantage 2-7x32ao.
R

I hate big heavy long scopes on many of my rifles. A lot of you like the Hawke Vantage because it kinda falls into the compact category, but my expereince with the cheaper end of the Hawke line was meh! I decided to see if I could find some decent quality compact scopes with lengths less than 10 inches and weight less than 20 oz. and came up with these. Please see my post with this evaluation.

Compact Scope Comparison

There are more and more good quality scopes being produced today, but the manufacturers seem to shy away from compact scopes. Most are too long and too heavy and are designed to produce large magnification and all kinds of fancy features. There are a few available, but all into the cheap gun...

www.airgunnation.com

 

[vintageairguncollector@gm]

Never shot a dot but enjoy OEM opens, peeps, apertures and scopes. I expect more from a scoped gun so stress more over POI's. I lower my expectations with any form of irons and am more relaxed. Both are fun in their own way. My wife's HW30 does double duty.

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Please tell me the name of your scope who produced it?

 

[EMrider]

I hate big heavy long scopes on many of my rifles. A lot of you like the Hawke Vantage because it kinda falls into the compact category, but my expereince with the cheaper end of the Hawke line was meh! I decided to see if I could find some decent quality compact scopes with lengths less than 10 inches and weight less than 20 oz. and came up with these. Please see my post with this evaluation.

Compact Scope Comparison

There are more and more good quality scopes being produced today, but the manufacturers seem to shy away from compact scopes. Most are too long and too heavy and are designed to produce large magnification and all kinds of fancy features. There are a few available, but all into the cheap gun...

www.airgunnation.com

I appreciate the helpful comparison. That said, my preference is for a 32mm objective on my Weihrauch springers.
R

 

[r1lover]

Please tell me the name of your scope who produced it?

It's an older Leupold Vari X III, 4.5-14 AO with a Leupold custom shop (apparently no longer in operation at this time) TS32X1 reticle.

 

[houston]

I like variety...scopes irons peeps red dots.

 

[Berserkeley Mike]

I just got this NOS Daisy 853c repeater. Spend a few hours yesterday installing a sear adjustment screw, polishing contact points, resealing, cleaning and lubing. Trigger out of the box was 6.5 lbs, with creep. Now 14 oz with no creep. First outing this morning I quickly sighted in the dot. This is my first official 5 shot group using H&N Econ II 7.4 grain. Velocity was consistent at 520 fps. First shot the four silhouettes. Four in a row were a hit. Then this 5 shot group. Both at 40 yards. I’m liking this 853c.View attachment 577354View attachment 577355View attachment 577356

Wow, that group at 40 yards with an inexpensive dot! I would just see a little target circle and a big, blurry dot hovering around. How do you aim that, red dot covering orange circle, dot intersecting circle like the number "8", something else? Do you focus on the dot or the target circle?

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

Wow, that group at 40 yards with an inexpensive dot! I would just see a little target circle and a big, blurry dot hovering around. How do you aim that, red dot covering orange circle, dot intersecting circle like the number "8", something else? Do you focus on the dot or the target circle?

This cheap dot has both red/green functionality. Also different reticle images. I used the green “dot” on number “one” setting. (smallest image) I could see the outer edge (barely) of the orange target dot. My eye comes and goes a bit so hence the one flyer. It amazes me to that this gun/dot is so accurate. I can’t believe this $200 gun with a $25 dot that shoots only 520fps can be so accurate at 40 yards. I’m enjoying these Daisy’s more than any other gun in decades. I have a dear friend back in Michigan that told me to get one of these Daisy’s a few decades ago. I usually take his advice but never did on this one. Better late than never, I guess.