Taipan Taipan Slash first tuning report.

[Massiemax]

How can velocity cause clipping? In my opinion, it should never happen unless you double load, but that's not possible with the Slash.

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[bernieorosz]

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I don't shoot slugs, but it seems to me a 36gr AVS .22 slug at 803 FPS isn't *that* slow to cause clipping? But, again don't shoot slugs.

I guess we won't know for sure if Massiemax has a magazine or barrel alignment issue until he has time to increase the reg and try them again.

 

[Trucker3573]

So, is the below correct? I think I might still be confused

If I want to adjust regulator without gauge, then no degassing necessary?

For this method, I would adjust reg cw to increase reg pressure. But, when turning ccw to decrease reg pressure, I must dry fire 2-3 time to get reg to settle at new pressure?

You basically can adjust any regulator up under pressure. I’d be very cautious doing it decreasing reg pressure unless explicitly stated by the manufacturer. There are very few that actually operate completely this way going down in pressure. Most that “allow” that are still a grey area. Move it an 1/8 turn and fire. They are having you move it tiny amounts so you don’t damage the internals. I personally pass on that and just degass when decreasing .

 

[AlanMcD]

You basically can adjust any regulator up under pressure. I’d be very cautious doing it decreasing reg pressure unless explicitly stated by the manufacturer. There are very few that actually operate completely this way going down in pressure. Most that “allow” that are still a grey area. Move it an 1/8 turn and fire. They are having you move it tiny amounts so you don’t damage the internals. I personally pass on that and just degass when decreasing .

One regulator that appears to be an exception to this is the one on the Huben K1. It lets you adjust it down to zero to fully vent the plenum without taking any shots, leaving the main reservoir still full of air. I found it amazing to be able to "degas" a gun to take it apart, and yet still have enough air on board to be able to be up shooting again after reassembly without having to add any air into it. That said, I swapped mine out for a Huma regulator as it is a bit more stable than the Huben regulator at lower pressures - my gun shoots well at around 100 bar, where the Huben regulator seems to prefer to run around 150 or so.

It would be great if somebody made a regulator that had all the best features in combined into one . . .

 

[JaceSpace1369]

I don't think Taipan has made this clear yet. I'm degassing for all moves up of down at the moment until clarification is made by them. What you say does seem logical though and likely the way it's designed.
I'm just doing what I am out of caution for now. On the Taipan.. CW is more pressure and CCW is less.. Very straight forward and easily done. I almost see that adding the reg gauge to tune like a fighter jet retracting it's landing gear. This design keeps things simplified and it really helps as it's so easy to shoulder and helps make a narrower rifles case.

I don't understand why companies don't make these clarifications and take the steps to show everything that is needed before they launch a new item.

 

[Cantona256]

You basically can adjust any regulator up under pressure. I’d be very cautious doing it decreasing reg pressure unless explicitly stated by the manufacturer. There are very few that actually operate completely this way going down in pressure. Most that “allow” that are still a grey area. Move it an 1/8 turn and fire. They are having you move it tiny amounts so you don’t damage the internals. I personally pass on that and just degass when decreasing .

If you see earlier in the thread Taipan has already explicitly stated you can move down without degassing… they just said you have to dry fire a few times for the reg to actually reset to the adjustment. No other cautionary statements were made…. This gun is like the Huben: All valve no hammer spring.

 

[Trucker3573]

One regulator that appears to be an exception to this is the one on the Huben K1. It lets you adjust it down to zero to fully vent the plenum without taking any shots, leaving the main reservoir still full of air. I found it amazing to be able to "degas" a gun to take it apart, and yet still have enough air on board to be able to be up shooting again after reassembly without having to add any air into it. That said, I swapped mine out for a Huma regulator as it is a bit more stable than the Huben regulator at lower pressures - my gun shoots well at around 100 bar, where the Huben regulator seems to prefer to run around 150 or so.

It would be great if somebody made a regulator that had all the best features in combined into one . . .

Ok nice…the Skout regs are another. Their downside is if you leave the gun fully pressurized the reg vents periodically and basically slowly leaks over time.

 

[Cantona256]

I don't understand why companies don't make these clarifications and take the steps to show everything that is needed before they launch a new item.

They have clarified. Just dry fire the gun 2-3 times after moving the reg down to reset and reflect the new reg pressure. I literally posted a screen shot on their official YouTube where they state this… he also states it in that shooting demonstration video

 

[Trucker3573]

If you see earlier in the thread Taipan has already explicitly stated you can move down without degassing… they just said you have to dry fire a few times for the reg to actually reset to the adjustment. No other cautionary statements were made…. This gun is like the Huben: All valve no hammer spring.

Good to hear. Wish more were like this. Most aren’t. I have to rebuild a daystate huma reg for stupidly turning the screw the wrong way and not realizing it until I had moved it twice a decent amount. It now doesn’t maintain its rock solid pressure. It slowly creeps down as the bottle pressure decreases. There is a small delrin disk in those regs that gets squished when you turn down under pressure. Then the reg doesn’t act right.

 

[Ultralight]

One regulator that appears to be an exception to this is the one on the Huben K1. It lets you adjust it down to zero to fully vent the plenum without taking any shots, leaving the main reservoir still full of air. I found it amazing to be able to "degas" a gun to take it apart, and yet still have enough air on board to be able to be up shooting again after reassembly without having to add any air into it. That said, I swapped mine out for a Huma regulator as it is a bit more stable than the Huben regulator at lower pressures - my gun shoots well at around 100 bar, where the Huben regulator seems to prefer to run around 150 or so.

It would be great if somebody made a regulator that had all the best features in combined into one . . .

I am curious what the Taipan offers over the K1 in terms of performance, assuming either .22 or .25 calibers. I realize that the Slash has removable magazines. Both look like great platforms.

 

[AlanMcD]

I am curious what the Taipan offers over the K1 in terms of performance, assuming either .22 or .25 calibers. I realize that the Slash has removable magazines. Both look like great platforms.

I am too - I don't know enough about it yet. It does not seem to be as "friendly" towards changing power output as the Huben - I'll admit I did not care that much about the feature when I got it (I figured I'd set it once and forget about it) but it has proved to be a great feature for me in different pesting situations. I love being able to easily choose anywhere between about 3-35 FPE with the same pellets in the magazine for any given shot, with no impact on the next shot's power or accuracy if I want it to be different.

 

[bernieorosz]

I am too - I don't know enough about it yet. It does not seem to be as "friendly" towards changing power output as the Huben - I'll admit I did not care that much about the feature when I got it (I figured I'd set it once and forget about it) but it has proved to be a great feature for me in different pesting situations. I love being able to easily choose anywhere between about 3-35 FPE with the same pellets in the magazine for any given shot, with no impact on the next shot's power or accuracy if I want it to be different.

I don't have a Slash.... yet. But, for me, one major plus for the Slash will barrel cleaning. With the mag removed, being able to use a Crown Saver or Patch Worm will be much appreciated (I assume we can use them). Plus, no worries or fear of accidentally 'triggering' or 'propelling' the cleaning rod like in K1 and GK1.

But don't get me wrong.... In my opinion, I think the Huben K1 and Gk1 Pistol are the best semi-auto's out there. If the Taipan Slash can even hold its own with them, it will be a major plus and another option for all of us.