That is how I store my break-barrels, for both those reasons.
And I store coil springers barrel-up to keep the spring greases and oils from migrating to the cylinder, and air-springers barrel-down so the gas ram seals stay moist.
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Diana How long can a springer be left cocked before spring degradation?
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And I store coil springers barrel-up to keep the spring greases and oils from migrating to the cylinder, and air-springers barrel-down so the gas ram seals stay moist.
Really an impossible question to answer, too many variables. How old is the spring in question, is high power or low, how many times has it been compressed, have there been any dry fires, are extremely light pellets or heavy pellets been used extensively, is it an aftermarket spring or factory, has the spring been cut, spaced, collapsed, re-hardened etc? These are all factors that "may" contribute significantly before the question, "how long can a springer"...
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Myth buster...
Pointing the gas ram down dont help at all .... Just ask my hatsans . My gamo gas ram get put up how ever it falls up ,down , side or any combo of ways and after 7 years of hard use its still as good as day one .
In the end all you can do is what you feels best and hope for the best .. lol
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German made Diana 48 bought brand new from Airguns of Arizona a few years ago.
Fairly powerful and never been dry fired.
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Still, too many variables, pellet weight amount of times fired, was there any detonations or dieseling at the factory or after, how well does the seal fit, etc. Even with these things known each spring like barrels can be a bit different. The question is unanswerable with any real certainty...
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I think too many people are over thinking this , Worrying about a very slim chance of something that might happen
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Not sure you can overthink anything if a) you don't know the answer or b) if you want to try to do the right thing for your equipment.
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You Sir, are the Experimentalist! Thank you for that observation that disproves my hypothesis, which is now abandoned.
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Don't abandon.. maybe it will work out better for you and your gas rams .. all i onos i did this with the 2 hatsans i got and the rams failed . There notorious to fail right off so they got that special treatment from hhe out of hhe box get go , and still failed .
I had one gamo fail close to new . Gamo said " if there ram faild itd usualy at first newish usage ". The other gamo ram been going good for 6-7 years of lots of use and as said i just throw ( put it ) it down however when done . No pointing it down as i did the hatsans .
So it's best to do as you feel best and fingers crossed..
Enjoy
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First off, leaving a springer cocked for 20 minutes, as in the OP, is completely normal when hunting. No issue whatever.
Second, you can't look at car springs etc. to estimate springer mainspring durability. Springer mainsprings are GROSSLY overstrained by engineering standards. Look at any coilspring calculator site for proof of this. Springers need the overstrain to make power, but it comes at a cost.
A coilspring that would last 5 00 000 moderate compressions could easily fail at 1 500 springer-level compressions.
I've seen test reports of springers losing only a couple dozen fps after days and days, or even weeks, of staying cocked, but I'm not that convinced.
Back when I was a one-gun springer guy I tested this for myself. My well-used Gamo 440 Hunter .22 cal would lose about 6 fps if left cocked for 30 minutes. At one hour, the loss would be about 10 fps. Not bad, but not insignicant, either. The spring would recover, though.
As far as high-quality springs go, my Maccari LGV spring with hundreds of shots under its belt was permanently ruined when I accidentally left the gun cocked overnight. The gun lost 50 fps, and only regained 15 of those after extended relaxation and re-installation.
If I were rich & idle, I'd see if a Titan #1 would fare better after 12 hours cocked. I think it would, but then they are the best mainsprings around.
Second, you can't look at car springs etc. to estimate springer mainspring durability. Springer mainsprings are GROSSLY overstrained by engineering standards. Look at any coilspring calculator site for proof of this. Springers need the overstrain to make power, but it comes at a cost.
A coilspring that would last 5 00 000 moderate compressions could easily fail at 1 500 springer-level compressions.
I've seen test reports of springers losing only a couple dozen fps after days and days, or even weeks, of staying cocked, but I'm not that convinced.
Back when I was a one-gun springer guy I tested this for myself. My well-used Gamo 440 Hunter .22 cal would lose about 6 fps if left cocked for 30 minutes. At one hour, the loss would be about 10 fps. Not bad, but not insignicant, either. The spring would recover, though.
As far as high-quality springs go, my Maccari LGV spring with hundreds of shots under its belt was permanently ruined when I accidentally left the gun cocked overnight. The gun lost 50 fps, and only regained 15 of those after extended relaxation and re-installation.
If I were rich & idle, I'd see if a Titan #1 would fare better after 12 hours cocked. I think it would, but then they are the best mainsprings around.
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