Huben Any issues or problems with Huben gk1 please share your experience

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Ultralight said:
Yes. Not arguing but what I meant is that with the gate, one can do the 3 clicks in one single motion. Without, it is 1 clicking one motion, but have to repeat 3 separate times to load 3 pellets. I suppose that I can take off the factory gate to test. Merely thinking out loud.
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that is why i like it - fewer cycles of the complete motion. plus its not every time, but not infrequently i can pick up two parallel pellets or slugs with my fingers and drop them both in at the same time.
 
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Ultralight said:
Yes. Not arguing but what I meant is that with the gate, one can do the 3 clicks in one single motion. Without, it is 1 clicking one motion, but have to repeat 3 separate times to load 3 pellets. I suppose that I can take off the factory gate to test. Merely thinking out loud.
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Ultralight,

what you describe is correct —
and definitely extra, unnecessary work.

If Bngen3 somehow can
▪ click the mag with one hand,
▪ load with the other, and
▪ hold the gun with his third hand —
then I can see that an aftermarket loading gate is not an improvement.

But I shoot out in the field, and I don't have a third hand, nor some kind of tray to hold the gun while my other two hands are busy clicking and loading.... 😃

Matthias
 
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JungleShooter said:
Ultralight,

what you describe is correct —
and definitely extra, unnecessary work.

If Bngen3 somehow can
▪ click the mag with one hand,
▪ load with the other, and
▪ hold the gun with his third hand —
then I can see that an aftermarket loading gate is not an improvement.

But I shoot out in the field, and I don't have a third hand, nor some kind of tray to hold the gun while my other two hands are busy clicking and loading.... 😃

Matthias
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In fact with the stock loading gate, you can load two at a time... I rest the gun in my left hand advancing the cylinder with my thumb... if I *really* didn't like having to advance the wheel once 17 times but instead want to advance it twice eight times, it's possible. If you roll it into position halfway between two chambers and hold it there with your thumb you can pop in two pellets, advance until the next two chambers are exposed etc. But in the end you still have to pick up a pellet and put it in there and I still can only do that one at a time ha ha. I don't like the looks of those aftermarket gates, I would not put one of those on but that's just me.
 
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MrP said:
In fact with the stock loading gate, you can load two at a time... I rest the gun in my left hand advancing the cylinder with my thumb... if I *really* didn't like having to advance the wheel once 17 times but instead want to advance it twice eight times, it's possible. If you roll it into position halfway between two chambers and hold it there with your thumb you can pop in two pellets, advance until the next two chambers are exposed etc. But in the end you still have to pick up a pellet and put it in there and I still can only do that one at a time ha ha. I don't like the looks of those aftermarket gates, I would not put one of those on but that's just me.
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Really? Wow. I got to try this. Interesting. Good discussion all.

Thanks!
 
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Ultralight said:
I have the factory but have been considering a loading gate. Loading gate seem to make sense because with factory, you have to turn the magazine every single load while a gate allows three pellets and then one turn, three pellets, one turn.... No? I've not tried the loading gate so I don't know for sure.

I figure that there has to be a reason why the loading gate is so popular.
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The factory gate can also damage the skirts of the pellet when being pushed in. Aftermarket gate is much better and also allows you to push-set the pellets 3at a time.
 
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JDGriz said:
Found another one: the power setting screw can very slowly and gradually unscrew itself (by tiny amounts during each shot), leading to a slow increase in power over time. It is more pronounced at lower power setting
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JDGriz said:
Found another one: the power setting screw can very slowly and gradually unscrew itself (by tiny amounts during each shot), leading to a slow increase in power over time. It is more pronounced at lower power settings.
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Did you resolve this? And how? Thanks.
 
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Louie4321 said:
Kelly also told me the blue tape works just as good
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Blue teflon tape has a nasty habit of having little bits break off and getting into things. I wouldn't use it in this application. A faucet, sure. Your $1K+ airgun, no. I use it all the time in plumbing, but not where little pieces can affect operation, like precision air valves, or near precision mechanisms or bearings. But that's only my opinion...
 
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WobblyHand said:
Blue teflon tape has a nasty habit of having little bits break off and getting into things. I wouldn't use it in this application. A faucet, sure. Your $1K+ airgun, no. I use it all the time in plumbing, but not where little pieces can affect operation, like precision air valves, or near precision mechanisms or bearings. But that's only my opinion...
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Interesting discussion. I wonder which one can be turned repeatedly and still maintain friction better. I think the idea is to add friction that is resistant to vibration loosening it out.

Thinking about this, the tape would be easier to remove for reapplication. I don't know if one should remove the old Loctite to reapply the new.

Have you used the actual blue Teflon tape yourself and seen it break off?
 
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no just the blue glue. Why cant we all get together and make a clicker wheel. step 1 - Buy a $10 daisy scope. step 2 - take out the turret adjustment wheel and hook it to a cut down Allen wrench step 3 - recess it into the stock where the power screw is. Now you can always know what power your on and it will stop the unscrewing. easy peasy.lol
 
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WobblyHand said:
Blue teflon tape has a nasty habit of having little bits break off and getting into things. I wouldn't use it in this application. A faucet, sure. Your $1K+ airgun, no. I use it all the time in plumbing, but not where little pieces can affect operation, like precision air valves, or near precision mechanisms or bearings. But that's only my opinion...
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Loctite has an antivibration product. Cant remeber what it is but we used on a spring adjusting screw a liftime ago. Paint it on the screw, let set for a bit, hard rubber coating, install screw. Makes the screw tight but adjustable, doesnt turn to powder like regular loctite when you turn the screw.
 
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Louie4321 said:
no just the blue glue. Why cant we all get together and make a clicker wheel. step 1 - Buy a $10 daisy scope. step 2 - take out the turret adjustment wheel and hook it to a cut down Allen wrench step 3 - recess it into the stock where the power screw is. Now you can always know what power your on and it will stop the unscrewing. easy peasy.lol
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Sergey1972 said:
Loctite has an antivibration product. Cant remeber what it is but we used on a spring adjusting screw a liftime ago. Paint it on the screw, let set for a bit, hard rubber coating, install screw. Makes the screw tight but adjustable, doesnt turn to powder like regular loctite when you turn the screw.
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Ultralight said:
Interesting discussion. I wonder which one can be turned repeatedly and still maintain friction better. I think the idea is to add friction that is resistant to vibration loosening it out.

Thinking about this, the tape would be easier to remove for reapplication. I don't know if one should remove the old Loctite to reapply the new.

Have you used the actual blue Teflon tape yourself and seen it break off?
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Yes, I've seen blue (and white) teflon come off. Actually, with plumbing threads. Been warned about it by machinists using it next to bearings. Bearings are often expensive, and junk in the bearing is a quick way to ruin one.
 
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Iirc, the adjustment screw is not in the compressed air portion. If this is correct, any debris would not be able to get ‘inside’ to gum up the works.

Also, if the Teflon could mess things up, what would stop the loctite method from doing so?

I’m away from home, so I can’t check to be sure but I will be back home in a couple of days.

Dave
 
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