RAW Rapid Anyone Recently Try a RAW MicroHunter in .177?

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Not much positive to say here on AGN when the RAW MicroHunter initially became available. All the worse when Pyramyd Air put out the video on a .25 cal version, and it didn't (at least to me) perform very well. But .25 cal out of an 8.5" barrel???

Anyway I noticed that the .177 version was recently available as a "blem" at the RAW Outlet Store site for a more reasonable price (now shows OOS). And I didn't know whether anyone here on AGN had had a chance to shoot a MicroHunter in a more reasonable caliber (for an 8.5" barrel, .177 or .22), maybe with different results from the PA video?

I'm asking because some manufacturers will sell slow moving stock for a discount calling it 'blemished', just to clear some inventory. As such I wonder whether we might see more 'blem' MicroHunters show up on the RAW Outlet Store site.
 
I have a 177 version and like it a lot. There are a lot of options in that price range. I have no real negatives. Great build quality and it shoots good.

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BrazosbyNemo said:
...There are a lot of options in that price range...
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fderry said:
Wisconsin AirGunners has a good review of the RAW MicroHunter .177.
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Thanks guys.

I know that there are other options in the price range, but I have somehow fallen in lust with the MicroHunter. Partly the appearance of the overall package, and maybe since I like RAW triggers so much?

And that was a good review by Wisconsin AirGunners. Good to see that the MicroHunter is not too delicate for use in the field - at least once some Loctite gets applied!

Guess I have to keep watching the RAW Outlet Store...and hoping for more 'blems' to show up.
 
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jps2486 said:
I would prefer a 12 inch barrel to achieve a full 20 fpe, otherwise, this is really a beautiful rifle.
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Yeah, 20 fpe would be a nice power level, but would likely have to be wrapped up in a larger, heavier package.

But I think for a bit more power for hunting, RAW is going to market the Mini Hunter with a longer barrel.

Shooter1721 is pretty specific in explaining the small pests where he feels the MicroHunter is best suited, with a confirmation in his thinking from RAW. At about 6:35 in the video.

 
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The Micro is micro. It’s a small lightweight rifle. Build quality at the top. If you want a quality, small, lightweight, accurate, carry around all day hunting rifle, then this is that rifle. It’s kind of a unique rifle that fills a nitch. most of my rifles, at least the ones I shoot, are full on target rifles. The micro has the quality of target rifles but a lot of fun to shoot. Mine is turned down to 12fpe as my primary reason for owning it is fun and I wanted to increase my shot count.

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Since this thread came alive again, I had issues with my .177 MicroHunter, purchased directly from RAW. Worked with them via email trying all sorts of different things (couple thousand pellets overall) to get over 20% flyers (like by 3/4-1"). Got to the point where it sometimes could shoot a group without flyers, but only when using very heavy pellets and a CARM single shot tray.

They said I could return it for assessment and repair. I did. Waited 4 months and when I got it back they had maybe polished the barrel, rebuilt the regulator (which had always seemed to be working great), and changed the magazine out from the original RAW type (clear plastic lid) to a new RAW type (seems 3D resin printed).

And... the gun was worse than before, using the specific pellet they said I should use.

I ended up giving it to a friend, who had already gone through this with his MicroHunter, and ended up sending it to Martin for repair.

Does RAW just no longer understand their own products? Was the MicroHunter released before it was truly ready? Seems like Utah Airguns was cleaning out their inventory of MicroHunters recently, selling them cheap as 'open box' guns to get around any MAP issues.
 
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TMH said:
Since this thread came alive again, I had issues with my .177 MicroHunter, purchased directly from RAW. Worked with them via email trying all sorts of different things (couple thousand pellets overall) to get over 20% flyers (like by 3/4-1"). Got to the point where it sometimes could shoot a group without flyers, but only when using very heavy pellets and a CARM single shot tray.

They said I could return it for assessment and repair. I did. Waited 4 months and when I got it back they had maybe polished the barrel, rebuilt the regulator (which had always seemed to be working great), and changed the magazine out from the original RAW type (clear plastic lid) to a new RAW type (seems 3D resin printed).

And... the gun was worse than before, using the specific pellet they said I should use.

I ended up giving it to a friend, who had already gone through this with his MicroHunter, and ended up sending it to Martin for repair.

Does RAW just no longer understand their own products? Was the MicroHunter released before it was truly ready? Seems like Utah Airguns was cleaning out their inventory of MicroHunters recently, selling them cheap as 'open box' guns to get around any MAP issues.
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This is disappointing to read as it seems to be a dandy pesting rig… The form factor is definitely spot on… Hopefully the issues you had are a one off? That said, it seems you weren’t treated fairly by RAW.
 
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Motorhead said:
My guess it is / was a BARREL issue being the platform is so well established, getting the final result is what a pellet does exiting said barrel ... accuracy is sub par ? ... yes blame the barrel !!!!
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I sent mine back and they claimed to replace the barrel and rebuild the regulator. It shoots a little better,b but overall I think it’s meh. I had an HM1000 rifle (same platform) and it was the best, most accurate rifle I’ve ever owned. Its new caretaker can attest to that too. How could Air Force f— this up and not make it right?
 
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… The form factor is definitely spot on…
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... and the trigger was amazing, the regulator was fantastic (consistent), felt light in use and real handy.

But in my case (and others I've heard about), overall the sum of the parts was definitely LESS than the individual components/features/benefits.

Unfortunately I feel that the RAW product line technology had gotten beyond the current staff's capabilities. They are nice folks, and most of them seem to try to do what they say (eventually). But they don't seem to have the skills to fix problems with their products. Or maybe they just won't spend the money to do the fix correctly (in my case replace the barrel, if that was indeed the issue).

And they don't truly seem to care that they have lost my future business - and maybe some business from folks who might read my (and other) posts.

Unfortunately acting only for sales today and not adequately caring for tomorrow's potential customer can be signs of a business which is failing.
 
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TMH said:
... and the trigger was amazing, the regulator was fantastic (consistent), felt light in use and real handy.

But in my case (and others I've heard about), overall the sum of the parts was definitely LESS than the individual components/features/benefits.

Unfortunately I feel that the RAW product line technology had gotten beyond the current staff's capabilities. They are nice folks, and most of them seem to try to do what they say (eventually). But they don't seem to have the skills to fix problems with their products. Or maybe they just won't spend the money to do the fix correctly (in my case replace the barrel, if that was indeed the issue).

And they don't truly seem to care that they have lost my future business - and maybe some business from folks who might read my (and other) posts.

Unfortunately acting only for sales today and not adequately caring for tomorrow's potential customer can be signs of a business which is failing.
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I do know for Fact .. that when I was in the factory several years ago that it was stated that finding qualified persons already living in Texas was very difficult & finding qualified person/s willing to Move to Texas even harder :oops:
 
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