Barn Gun
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I pulled out the Ranger yesterday, yanked off the light and pressure pad, and spent a little time with it.
In this form, it is fine. When I shoot in a field position, I want a good grip with my support hand (left) pulling the gun into my shoulder, so my trigger hand can be relaxed for a smooth trigger pull. I couldn’t find a good place for the pressure pad on this setup that let me do that. Without the pad or anything else to try to manipulate, I can grab the rail under the tank, positioning my thumb on the front of the rail, pull the gun snug to my shoulder, and it feels gravy (gravy is good, for the Zoomers and Boomers in the forum)
While I remembered the gun being unpleasant and unwieldy, I think it was poorly positioned accessories that were problematic. So the Ranger itself is not on the chopping block. Sorry @L.Leon it is not for sale for a good price… not yet at least.
Time to do some research on night vision scopes.
In this form, it is fine. When I shoot in a field position, I want a good grip with my support hand (left) pulling the gun into my shoulder, so my trigger hand can be relaxed for a smooth trigger pull. I couldn’t find a good place for the pressure pad on this setup that let me do that. Without the pad or anything else to try to manipulate, I can grab the rail under the tank, positioning my thumb on the front of the rail, pull the gun snug to my shoulder, and it feels gravy (gravy is good, for the Zoomers and Boomers in the forum)
While I remembered the gun being unpleasant and unwieldy, I think it was poorly positioned accessories that were problematic. So the Ranger itself is not on the chopping block. Sorry @L.Leon it is not for sale for a good price… not yet at least.
Time to do some research on night vision scopes.
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No guru here…The Pathfinder is but a mini Commander, if you take a closer look you will see its undeniable. Same form factor in a smaller package. Similar to the Atomic/Rangers being but smaller Concept XRs. That said, I really love my Pathfinder for what you are describing above and its how I use mine… Just don’t plop a huge scope on it…
I was looking a little closer at Pathfinders, I assumed it was just a Ranger with a HP bottle, adjustable reg. and a barrel shroud. But it seems it actually has a 10" barrel, while the Ranger/Atomic have a 12" barrel. Interesting they chose to go shorter. I am guessing the shroud is 12" with an air stripper inside, so it helps with noise reduction. Looks very cool, I wonder how much juice it could get behind an 18 grain pellet if the reg. and hammer spring were turned up for putting squirrels in the crock pot.
So many tools/toys... I have been trying to find info about what is different between the Sahara and the regular Sniper XR, other than paint. I have found quotes that there are performance differences, but nothing specific.
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This is out the box… no tuning on my part…
Pathfinder XR / JSB Exact Jumbo 18s/ TP High
| Hi: 794 Low: 782 Avg: 788 | Std: 4.94 ES: 12 FPE: 24.8 |
Plenty of energy for squirrels out to 50+ yards and you can bump up the power if you wish to…
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The adjustable reg for dialing down the power during bird nesting season and then back up for squirrel season does make the Pathfinder look just about right... I see how it is, you aren't the BRK guru, you moonlight as a BRK salesman.
My folding stock adaptor on the Ranger allows the stock to twists a millimeter or two: just a slight rotation. Does yours also do this?
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The guns sell themselves, I am but one voice, that said, check out my Atomic XR. Kneeling at 54 yards, just for fun of course, UTG Red dot atop sending CPHPs…
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I dug around in my box-o-gun stuff and found this 90 degree sling attachment that I bought years ago for something or other.
Makes the Ranger easy to have across my chest at the ready, while leaving both hands free if needed for tasks, such as opening the barn door quietly.
I found a used Zulus 3-12 for sale in the classifieds here which I probably will have next week. Roosting pest birds beware.
Also quite good news: the barn is finally finished being sided, including new doors, and it is much easier to get into the upper area, where I can now have a wind free 25 yards for shooting airguns. Will be excellent for sighting in the new NV optic.
Makes the Ranger easy to have across my chest at the ready, while leaving both hands free if needed for tasks, such as opening the barn door quietly.
I found a used Zulus 3-12 for sale in the classifieds here which I probably will have next week. Roosting pest birds beware.
Also quite good news: the barn is finally finished being sided, including new doors, and it is much easier to get into the upper area, where I can now have a wind free 25 yards for shooting airguns. Will be excellent for sighting in the new NV optic.
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You have her setup sweetly, am definitely looking forward to some after action reports. The pests are going to be in serious trouble, very, very nicely setup, love the sling and will have to borrow that idea…
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@L.Leon Do you notice a little rotation in the BRK folding stock adaptor? Mine rotates just a little bit. I originally though it was my stock on the buffer tube, and there was a little play there, but I fixed that and there is still a little movement, and see it is in the lockup point of the folder.
I don't notice that movement when I am shouldering the gun, hard to say if it would affect accuracy.
I don't notice that movement when I am shouldering the gun, hard to say if it would affect accuracy.
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No way, those Ghosts are so ugly. And way too heavy. And I hear they smell funny to.
Not tempted at all... nope not even a little. Never mind my Youtube history of Ghost review videos. Not tempted even a little...
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There is a little play in the folding adapter, a small wooden shim fixed it for me… I use mine both with and without the shim. Same practical accuracy for me…
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According to tracking, I should be getting a 3-12 Zulus for the Ranger on Saturday. I might take it to the indoor range I have a membership at and get a feel for how it shoots without any wind. Being able to just punch in different ranges will make it pretty quick and easy to determine the pellet path out to 25 yards. Also will be nice to be indoors, as the weather here has not yet heard it is spring.
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The Zulus is pretty straightforward to use. Should do the job well. I haven’t quite got it where I want it on the gun though. I am a little too close to the scope like this, but bumping out the stock any further is too long a length of pull. Putting the mount ahead of the magazine requires me to shorten the LOP a little too much.
I think a 1/2” riser that lets me move it ahead a little and have the mount itself a picatinny notch or two over the magazine will be just right.
I think a 1/2” riser that lets me move it ahead a little and have the mount itself a picatinny notch or two over the magazine will be just right.
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I tried that, with the mount in front of the magazine, first and it was too far forward for me. Behind the magazine like I have it is too far back. I think a riser will let me get it in the goldilocks location.
I saw a starling scoping out my yard this morning while I was making my coffee. Gotta get this and my Taipan long up and running. Although pre-coffee birds get a pass, since I would as likely shoot myself in the foot as anything else before my first mug.
I saw a starling scoping out my yard this morning while I was making my coffee. Gotta get this and my Taipan long up and running. Although pre-coffee birds get a pass, since I would as likely shoot myself in the foot as anything else before my first mug.
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Added a riser and got the Zulus where it is much more comfortable.
This bumped it up a bit, of course, so I added a cheek riser to the magpul stock
It is nearly ready to go now, just need to zero it and establish pellet path from a few yards out to 30.
This bumped it up a bit, of course, so I added a cheek riser to the magpul stock
It is nearly ready to go now, just need to zero it and establish pellet path from a few yards out to 30.
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I picked up the American Defense MFG mount that fits the Zulus and it is great for the Ranger.
Got the Zulus right where I want it, much lower, and still clears the magazine.
Also got it over the chrono today, getting about 647fps with the GTO lead free 11.7gr so just under 11fpe.
Gotta figure out my zero now.
Got the Zulus right where I want it, much lower, and still clears the magazine.
Also got it over the chrono today, getting about 647fps with the GTO lead free 11.7gr so just under 11fpe.
Gotta figure out my zero now.
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After getting this Ranger set up, I proceeded to do nothing with it. Been using my Taipan for pests in the yard, and just haven't gotten out into the barn or shed at night. Also just haven't been many house sparrows on the farm this year, so that is good.
Part of this has been, looking at chairgun, I haven't been a fan of the amount of variation in aiming height on this setup. At 3 yards, which is possible inside the barn, I would have to hold 1.5in high due to height of the optic above bore, then 1" high at 6 yards, then .75" high at 9 yards, then a little ways where it is pretty close to zeroed, and then it starts dropping fast, due to the slower moving .22 pellet since I am trying to keep the fpe down.
I was thinking if I switch to .177 I could get a flatter curve with a faster moving pellet helping with the far end of my shooting range.
Also was thinking something with a magazine that does not protrude above the receiver, like a Walther RM8 or a HW100/HW110 would let me get the optic closer to the bore.
Seems like these would be two ways to reduce variation in aiming which would be great for putting a pellet where I want it.
Am I overthinking it?
Thanks,
-pg
Part of this has been, looking at chairgun, I haven't been a fan of the amount of variation in aiming height on this setup. At 3 yards, which is possible inside the barn, I would have to hold 1.5in high due to height of the optic above bore, then 1" high at 6 yards, then .75" high at 9 yards, then a little ways where it is pretty close to zeroed, and then it starts dropping fast, due to the slower moving .22 pellet since I am trying to keep the fpe down.
I was thinking if I switch to .177 I could get a flatter curve with a faster moving pellet helping with the far end of my shooting range.
Also was thinking something with a magazine that does not protrude above the receiver, like a Walther RM8 or a HW100/HW110 would let me get the optic closer to the bore.
Seems like these would be two ways to reduce variation in aiming which would be great for putting a pellet where I want it.
Am I overthinking it?
Thanks,
-pg
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I reread this post. I wish I had seen or heard of the Zulus before I got my NV100 or either of my ATN's. It would have been near perfect on my Kral NP03 .22.
I have shied away from .177 because of difficulty handling those little "pills". Most of my vermin shooting is less than 20yrds. I am usually at power level of ~17/18flb.s w/ Hades or Apolo Arrows. I run a Donny FL Sumo moderator as the NP03 has no shrouded baffles. Ranchibi posts a lot of my "adventures " on another forum. (I'm an illiterate tech flub)
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