FX Ok $999 for the new FX in synthetic stock....
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Since you are shooting high power in 177 caliber I'm just curious on why use low reg setting? My crown with 500mm barrel can comfortably shoot 12.5g NSA at well over 900fps but I generally stick to around 900-920fps regardless of slug caliber and weight. If looking for high power I usually leave my reg at the highest comfort range for factory hammer/spring, for FX that's right around 145-150 from factory.
Also why the ideal speed for the 13 grain slugs is 960fps? Slugs are not drag stabilized so it doesn't air speed/air around the skirt to stabilize, slugs are spin stabilized so technically it can be stable at 0 fps like a dreidel with enough spin/RPM. I shoot 12.5 grain NSA slugs out of my crown with 380mm barrel at 800fps last sunday and I was plinking 4 inch disk at 150 yards with ease, 200 meters is where things opened up but that's because BC of the tiny little slugs are not as high as much heavier slugs but it still can hold it's own as long as wind doesn't get too bad.
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Pretty sure the JTS and Barra models are around $500 each, curious to see how they stack up against the FX.
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The low REG setting was just something i stumbled over one day.
Regarding speeds i have tried many from the high 800 to 1100 FPS, my Maverick have also shot slugs " well " at other speeds, but there the POI fluctuated wildly, but around 960 FPS i can actually shoot several OK groups in a row.
For a while i thought my fluctuating POI was just wind playing with me, CUZ i could get 2-3 shots in but the BAM the next shot was .5 / .75 inch away, but then if i did nothing the POI would eventually shift back in a few shots to what i was dialed in for with the scope.
I was also down the lines of " i aint doing this right" in regard to my aiming, so also entertained the idea of bolting my rifle down to see what it would then do on its own with no shooter input.
My fluctuating POI was generally side to side, only a little up / down, like maybe 1/4 inch, which also confused me a lot, and made me think it was wind, but it was still there on pretty much no wind days or on days where the wind was from the back, and if anything i would have assumed my shots would be pushed down as i do shoot a little uphill.
Also when my shot strings are not super flat i would assume to see changes in the up / down direction, but that dont really seem to happen for me.
Actually i often see the slow shot in a string being the one that land high VS where i aim, yet another source of frustration for me.
I do on shorter distances have a funny tendency of shooting elongated groups in the horizontal plane, where as a vertical elongated group is very rare.
So when a shot of mine go high or low i am very fast to call " flier "
Some times i have shot 5 shot groups 4.5 mm high but 20-25 mm wide, and i am like " dude how do you do that when you aim the same place " and the previous group was pretty normal and so is the next one.
Sadly those long groups its not like they move to one sinde nice and easy, so i might shoot 2 right beside each other but then the 3 shot skip 10 mm, which is then filled in by subsequent shots.
Stuff like that severely mess with my mind, and make me think it is fortunate my hair is never in a length where you can grip it and pull it out.
Fortunately most often i am able to shoot my way out of what ever problem i have behind the rifle.
Regarding speeds i have tried many from the high 800 to 1100 FPS, my Maverick have also shot slugs " well " at other speeds, but there the POI fluctuated wildly, but around 960 FPS i can actually shoot several OK groups in a row.
For a while i thought my fluctuating POI was just wind playing with me, CUZ i could get 2-3 shots in but the BAM the next shot was .5 / .75 inch away, but then if i did nothing the POI would eventually shift back in a few shots to what i was dialed in for with the scope.
I was also down the lines of " i aint doing this right" in regard to my aiming, so also entertained the idea of bolting my rifle down to see what it would then do on its own with no shooter input.
My fluctuating POI was generally side to side, only a little up / down, like maybe 1/4 inch, which also confused me a lot, and made me think it was wind, but it was still there on pretty much no wind days or on days where the wind was from the back, and if anything i would have assumed my shots would be pushed down as i do shoot a little uphill.
Also when my shot strings are not super flat i would assume to see changes in the up / down direction, but that dont really seem to happen for me.
Actually i often see the slow shot in a string being the one that land high VS where i aim, yet another source of frustration for me.
I do on shorter distances have a funny tendency of shooting elongated groups in the horizontal plane, where as a vertical elongated group is very rare.
So when a shot of mine go high or low i am very fast to call " flier "
Some times i have shot 5 shot groups 4.5 mm high but 20-25 mm wide, and i am like " dude how do you do that when you aim the same place " and the previous group was pretty normal and so is the next one.
Sadly those long groups its not like they move to one sinde nice and easy, so i might shoot 2 right beside each other but then the 3 shot skip 10 mm, which is then filled in by subsequent shots.
Stuff like that severely mess with my mind, and make me think it is fortunate my hair is never in a length where you can grip it and pull it out.
Fortunately most often i am able to shoot my way out of what ever problem i have behind the rifle.
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I'd go the higher priced FX over the other Guys for 1 reason.
Parts and service! A $500 Gun with no parts or service available is a junk Gun IMO.
I can still get parts for my Streamline. Same with my Dreamline.
My Evanix Guns? Not junk as I've managed to collect enough stuff to maintain them.
And to be honest? I'd buy another Evanix before another FX. Much easier to work on and this Air tube over barrel system?
More freaking o-rings to go bad.
Parts and service! A $500 Gun with no parts or service available is a junk Gun IMO.
I can still get parts for my Streamline. Same with my Dreamline.
My Evanix Guns? Not junk as I've managed to collect enough stuff to maintain them.
And to be honest? I'd buy another Evanix before another FX. Much easier to work on and this Air tube over barrel system?
More freaking o-rings to go bad.
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Even 1mph wind can and will change POI at 50 yards or meter. At 20-30 yards the wind affect is a lot less so that's where I usually zero and tune. I assume the 13 grain slugs are JSB and it's BC is 0.06, even at 30 yards a 5mph wind can push it 25mm, 1mph wind which is imperceptible can still push it ~5mm. Highly recommend to get wind flags and indicators at target, near muzzle and multiple places in the middle if you can.
This 3 shot group was at 100 yards, C2C is 0.56 inches or about 13mm. To get that group my point of aim varied by over 2 inches or 50mm between those 3 shots. The POI not only varied horizontally, I also had to use vertical deviation to account for angle of the wind and spin drift. This is like shooting 1000yard with 6.5 creedmore at 100 yards. LOL!
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No i mainly shoot Zan now, perform a little better than the JSB knockouts i feel.
Yeah i am generally shooting 80 - 86 Meters, so yeah some push is to be expected, and low to none wind days in Denmark, well also not something you should bet the house on.
Also not afraid to admit that reading the wind, procuring / making some wind markers, well at large still something i have to learn / get on with.
Mind you groups as such not something i shoot much either, but i put up a 2" splatter target, and then i play annihilate the red base ( center dot )
It can be done in one perfect shot, but most often when the base are gone the sticker look like Swiss cheese, due to a lot of almost but not quite there shots.
Mind you on those markers i can most often see a clear tendency where things prefer to land, just not always i am lucky in my compensating on my aim.
Yeah i am generally shooting 80 - 86 Meters, so yeah some push is to be expected, and low to none wind days in Denmark, well also not something you should bet the house on.
Also not afraid to admit that reading the wind, procuring / making some wind markers, well at large still something i have to learn / get on with.
Mind you groups as such not something i shoot much either, but i put up a 2" splatter target, and then i play annihilate the red base ( center dot )
It can be done in one perfect shot, but most often when the base are gone the sticker look like Swiss cheese, due to a lot of almost but not quite there shots.
Mind you on those markers i can most often see a clear tendency where things prefer to land, just not always i am lucky in my compensating on my aim.
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The Barra will be $400 and the JTS $500. The Barra is a M30 not sure about the JTS it looks more "modified". I am very interested to see they can keep up with the FX. Oh yeah there are a few M30 for sale on other websites for a surprising $865!!!!!!!
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I am pretty happy being able to hold most of my shots on a 2" marker at those distances, but maybe i should man up and get some 1" ones too.
Also moving bench this year, so will be able to shoot out to 130 M something i am exited about but very much doubt a 2" marker can do it, so maybe 3" for that.
Both of these 2 groups shot at 86 M , that up / left shot, last one of course.
My only comfort is at least in both groups the deviation on those last shots seem the same.
Also moving bench this year, so will be able to shoot out to 130 M something i am exited about but very much doubt a 2" marker can do it, so maybe 3" for that.
Both of these 2 groups shot at 86 M , that up / left shot, last one of course.
My only comfort is at least in both groups the deviation on those last shots seem the same.
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