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FX FX Crown .177 and .22 OOB Accuracy?
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My Saber Crown I received from SPAW in 22 was the most accurate rifle I have owned in both 18gr and 25gr on the same tune at 50 yards. I never had to touch the tune. I often regret selling it.
This is compared to 2 Red Wolf’s, 4? Impacts, Cricket, Pulsar, 2 Uragans, and I’m sure I forgot a few. (not including my 177s in comparison at 50yds)
I don’t usually measure group size, but I can tell from the paper games we play, I had higher scores and visual group sizes when testing that were better than all my others.
The only reason I have picked up another is that I wanted to try out a few other brands I haven’t tested to see if there is something better.
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I have 2 and they are lights out. Just sold one to get the new one. I guess there is a way to not be accurate with one, but you'll have to try really hard. The 22cal is easy with JSB 18's or 25.39's. I used JSB 10.3's and 10 grain JSB slugs at 50. 1/2 groups are easy with a bipod and bag. I was going to put a carbon sleeve on them, but they didn't seem to need it. Granted I shoot normal speeds with pellets meaning 870-900, not a 14.3 at 1100fps and wonder why I'm getting 2 inch groups. lol
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Easily! I posted when I first got mine with some testing different ammo and different speeds and even in that testing scenario, the groups were under 1/2” almost the whole time even when considering outside edge instead of center. Most were in the 1/4” range especially when you looked at the groups that were optimized for speed.
That wasn’t even trying for score, but testing ammo and the speeds on the wheel. Shoot, turn, shoot, turn, etc. it only got better as I focused on the speeds it liked and I was trying for score. It was better than some of my 22lr scores, and better than some other local guys and their 22lr.
Best part is that it only takes a little turn of one dial. That is one thing about the Crown I love. In the search for more power, some rifles are harder to shoot various speed pellets very well on the same reg setting. Not the Crown, as it has just enough power without being too much. My Impacts couldn’t do this as well, and I needed separate reg settings to maximize both weight pellets.
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But you gota re-zero every time!
Long floppy barrel won't stay put. See how many threads there are trying to fix this.
Don't believe the hype...
Long floppy barrel won't stay put. See how many threads there are trying to fix this.
Don't believe the hype...
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I had a .25 Dreamline for years. That gun could shoot a tick off a fly's d*ck at 50 yards..... after I re-zeroed the gun lol. I learned real quick not to lean that gun on anything by the barrel. I actually stored that gun on a tripod just to keep the barrel from moving.
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I'd say 1/2" at 50 should be no issue. With a proper tune. Recommend the short 380mm barrel. As well as .22 caliber. And the carbon liner reinforcement (cost about $20). I'd also recommend getting a tq wrench that measures in in-lbs and establish a tightening order for your barrel securing screws. If you never plan to change barrels... If you dont, at least make sure they are all torqued the same.
I've had two. Got the second one mainly to harvest the walnut stock from. Must have been a real early mk1. Mine is one of the last mk1's made.
Have 5 barrels for it, and 99% of the time only use the short .22 All the barrels I have are tack drivers, but the short .22 is the easiest/most accurate in the scenarios I normally shoot. Short barrel = less time the projectile spends in the barrel = less affect that the user input has on accuracy. If I pull a shot, the affect would be more pronounced in a longer barrel. I'd be off target by a larger margin. Also, shorter barrels have less harmonic whip, so they are generally easier to dial in, and less fussy. Mk2's have more power, and mine still does 16gr @ 960fps, and 18gr @930fps with a 125bar tune
I've had two. Got the second one mainly to harvest the walnut stock from. Must have been a real early mk1. Mine is one of the last mk1's made.
Have 5 barrels for it, and 99% of the time only use the short .22 All the barrels I have are tack drivers, but the short .22 is the easiest/most accurate in the scenarios I normally shoot. Short barrel = less time the projectile spends in the barrel = less affect that the user input has on accuracy. If I pull a shot, the affect would be more pronounced in a longer barrel. I'd be off target by a larger margin. Also, shorter barrels have less harmonic whip, so they are generally easier to dial in, and less fussy. Mk2's have more power, and mine still does 16gr @ 960fps, and 18gr @930fps with a 125bar tune
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The 177 is so light, conditions can influence them a lot. I love shooting my Revere 177 with 10.3 grain in the 30y challenge. Fully capable, but it’s not easy like a 25 cal. I have a 22 0db, but my Revere likes my Tanto 22 cal more. I’m a little disappointed because the 0db looks better on it
Finding the right pellet is also important. Mine like AA branded 10.3 a lot better than jsb and fx.
Don’t be discouraged by people that dismiss the 177, they aren’t up to the challenge. It’s very rewarding when you get it right.
Finding the right pellet is also important. Mine like AA branded 10.3 a lot better than jsb and fx.
Don’t be discouraged by people that dismiss the 177, they aren’t up to the challenge. It’s very rewarding when you get it right.
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After my Maverick Compact experience with POI shifts, it’s so nice to pull out the Revere and its POI is the same as the previous use. Only leaving the luck to the pellet draw.
I suggest anyone with a Fx liner rifle to regularly shoot a 30y challenge card to make sure you don’t have a rifle with POI shift. It’s not every rifle, but it’s a real thing.
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I think it's more of an issue of FX barrels in specific. Not performing as well in that caliber. I've heard some positive results with some of their newest .177 barrels. But for sure some of the past liners just didn't perform so hot in .177
I've got a .177 Ranchero that oddly is extremely accurate with crosman cphps. I've tried jsb, and some others. It prefers the crosman pellets. I believe it has a LW barrel? It's the original barrel, but it has normal lands and grooves in it.
I've got a .177 Ranchero that oddly is extremely accurate with crosman cphps. I've tried jsb, and some others. It prefers the crosman pellets. I believe it has a LW barrel? It's the original barrel, but it has normal lands and grooves in it.
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This is a 5 shot group I took today from my crown at 25yds. This is with 18gr straight from the tin. Nothing special done to the pellets. As you can see there is other 5 shot groups in the pic. Top left was right after cleaning the barrel. Left was right before this group. Definitely repeatable.
I also own a raw and between the two they are both lights out.
I also own a raw and between the two they are both lights out.
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I also know another member that uses a crown. On a 25m score card he shoots 250 scores on a regular basis with anywhere between 14 to 21xs's.
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Like I said. The zero shifted.
One group takes out the center, just a little low. The top left is low right. Bottom right is low and a bit left. Double+ the dispersion for 50 yards.
If you don't see that, you're fooling yourself.
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(12) 10 shot groups at 58 yards. 3-5 tailwinds with a left push. 18.1’s tuned to 888. No internal mods, Donny fat boy on the end of the 380 barrel. This was awhile ago but I’m pretty sure a dime covered most of them so 1/2” or less.
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Alrighty then. That seems like a solid answer. I dont think anyone can argue with 120 shots under a half inch.
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